Written by: Lurch
Wow some of you guys are really off base. Something is wrong with Western Culture? The kid was South Korean, he wasn't even from here. It must be us American's fault for letting him do this to us I guess. All of you who are crying for more gun laws are grossly misguided. There are plenty of gun laws, we do NOT need more of them. If you want to ask for anything how about enforcing the ones we currently have instead of making more?
He could have, and would have done a lot more damage with a simple car bomb over a shooting spree, so don't tell me guns are the reason he killed so many. People with CCW's by in large are good, honest, law abiding citizens. Making more gun laws and restrictions does nothing to prevent criminals from commiting crime. It does however prevent us good people from protecting ourselves.
What the hell is you peoples problem? 33 people are dead, the question of creating, more laws is pointless, laws did not, and could not stop this from happening. People following those laws could not stop this from happening because they were following those laws. They were defenseless purely because the school was legally a "gun free zone." Those are just words on a piece of paper, that do nothing but stop the people who follow the rules. If there had been someone else armed, a properly trained and licensed civilian, this whole thing *could* have been stopped long before the total reached 33.
Right now, the LAW, filled that building with a bunch of defenseless sheep, hiding behind desks until their turn came. Their ability to fight back was removed by the gun laws that you people want to make stricter. I for one would want the ability to fight back if someone intended to kill me..
I guess you guys would just stand there and take it since you don't want people to fight back.
:admires giant wooden aeroplane: Its about time trees were good for something, instead of just standing their like jerks!!!
Homer rocks!!!!
Written by: Luch
laws did not, and could not stop this from happening
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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Written by: pineapple pete
(evidently) not enough action has been taken to prevent a repetition of.
Written by: stone
sure, “Those who live by the sword die by the sword.”
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
**giggles**
Written by: Pele
.........Why can't people like this just shoot themselves without taking everyone else with them? That is what I *really* want to know.
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speaking as "[insert nationality here]" i believe that the best wasy to control guns is to use both hands
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
**giggles**
Written by: Lurch
Wow some of you guys are really off base. Something is wrong with Western Culture? The kid was South Korean, he wasn't even from here. It must be us American's fault for letting him do this to us I guess.
Written by: Lurch
I guess you guys would just stand there and take it since you don't want people to fight back.
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
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Guns. Everywhere Guns.
Let me start this discussion by pointing out that I am not antigun. I'm proknife. Consider the merits of the knife.
In the first place, you have to catch up with someone in order to stab him. A general substitution of knives for guns would promote physical fitness. We'd turn into a whole nation of great runners. Plus, knives don't ricochet. And people are seldom killed while cleaning their knives.
As a civil libertarian, I, of course, support the Second Amendment. And I believe it means exactly what it says:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Fourteen-year-old boys are not part of a well-regulated militia. Members of wacky religious cults are not part of a well-regulated militia. Permitting unregulated citizens to have guns is destroying the security of this free state.
I am intrigued by the arguments of those who claim to follow the judicial doctrine of original intent. How do they know it was the dearest wish of Thomas Jefferson's heart that teenage drug dealers should cruise the cities of this nation perforating their fellow citizens with assault rifles? Channeling?
There is more hooey spread about the Second Amendment. It says quite clearly that guns are for those who form part of a well-regulated militia, that is, the armed forces, including the National Guard. The reasons for keeping them away from everyone else get clearer by the day.
The comparison most often used is that of the automobile, another lethal object that is regularly used to wreak great carnage. Obviously, this society is full of people who haven't enough common sense to use an automobile properly. But we haven't outlawed cars yet.
We do, however, license them and their owners, restrict their use to presumably sane and sober adults, and keep track of who sells them to whom. At a minimum, we should do the same with guns.
In truth, there is no rational argument for guns in this society. This is no longer a frontier nation in which people hunt their own food. It is a crowded, overwhelmingly urban country in which letting people have access to guns is a continuing disaster. Those who want guns—whether for target shooting, hunting, or potting rattlesnakes (get a hoe)—should be subject to the same restrictions placed on gun owners in England, a nation in which liberty has survived nicely without an armed populace.
A "well-regulated militia" surely implies both long training and long discipline. That is the least, the very least, that should be required of those who are permitted to have guns, because a gun is literally the power to kill. For years I used to enjoy taunting my gun-nut friends about their psychosexual hang-ups—always in a spirit of good cheer, you understand. But letting the noisy minority in the NRA force us to allow this carnage to continue is just plain insane.
I do think gun nuts have a power hang-up. I don't know what is missing in their psyches that they need to feel they have the power to kill. But no sane society would allow this to continue.
Ban the damn things. Ban them all.
You want protection? Get a dog.
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Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
**giggles**
It's my world - you all just happen to live in it.
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to