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Written by: Stout
Happy secular spring candy distribution festival weekend
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Written by: FireTom
Is it right, that some afro americans call each other all kinds of derogatory names? Which would certainly not be any excuse for a white guy to do the same, however.
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Written by: NYC
The context would be the history of African Americans in the US as well as their position today. Not something I can explain in a box on the internet.
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Written by: FireTomWritten by: NYC
The context would be the history of African Americans in the US as well as their position today. Not something I can explain in a box on the internet.
*checks who started this thread and what it is about*
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Written by: NYC
This thread is not a etymology course on the "N word".
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As of 2007, the word n*** is used, without intentional prejudice, among younger members of all races and ethnicities in the United States, including African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans and European Americans. In practice, its use and meaning are heavily dependent on context.
Written by: NYC
The context would be the history of African Americans in the US as well as their position today. Not something I can explain in a box on the internet.
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Written by: FireTom
at least in both countries it's politically correct for an Afro-American to use derogatory expressions within his own ethnic group... that much we've learned so far.
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Written by: NYC
I find it counterintuitive that there appears to be more political correctness and sensitivity associated with Americans in some areas when examining parallel areas of US and UK society.
Written by: Wiki
The United States Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, which allows political organizations great latitude in expressing Nazi, racist and anti-Semitic views.
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Written by: FireTom
So maybe - besides all those nice arguments you provide in the effort to prove your statement - you're just talking out of your box.
Written by: NYC
I find it counterintuitive that there appears to be more political correctness and sensitivity associated with Americans in SOME AREAS when examining PARALLEL AREAS of US and UK society.
Written by: NYC
Again, focusing on an apples to apples comparison of communities.
[Maybe this will be another example of those not as familiar with both communities not really understanding my point.]
Written by: NYC
If we limit ourselves to just the liberal centers I hang out with (OK, My friends)... I have experienced many more instances of Brits making generalizations and insensitive comments.
Written by: NYC
I hope you don't think that I'd ever suggest that the US isn't racist or isn't as racist as the UK. I'm quite certain that the blatantly racist US population could easily kick the crap out of the blatantly racist UK population with one hand tied behind their back. I'm well aware of the mistreatment of minorities as well. I can't imagine a country that has relied more on the exploitation of immigrants than the US... but my world history isn't all that great so don't quote me.
I'm more confused about the seemingly tolerant liberals in both countries. Whether it be the media or the hippie population.
Written by: NYC
Do you really think that educated, liberal UK communities are less sensitive towards certain cultures because they are perceived to sap the economy? I would certainly expect that from fundamentalists but it's the liberal standpoint that confuses me.
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It's a shame because our liberal centers MIGHT actually have something to teach about tolerance but it's never going to get heard through all of the hate the rest of my country is exporting. And sadly, I'm not so sure, that anybody else wants to learn it.
Written by: NYC
Again, I'm only limiting my conversation to the very liberal forefront of both cultures.
Written by: NYC
YAY! Well said. Yes. And again, as always in this thread, I'm talking very generally about educated liberals.
Written by: tom
Maybe NYC (as in the city) and the northern regions of the US do have (historically) a different approach to the subject. PERSONALLY I experienced the south to be blatant racist.
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Written by: sagetree
just for the record i found NYC's last post VERY entertaining
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Written by: Stout
The problem is ( was? ) with this thread is that the criteria for making an informed opinion/post was so narrowly defined ( as being an educated liberal at the very forefront of liberal thought ) and really need input from people who were intimately familiar with both British and American culture, that it severely limited the amount of people who could post on the topic...In short ( to go all PC on it ) it was elitist.
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NYC...that's why you found yourself waving to a parallel conversation. Maybe if you'd outlined what you were looking for in the first place, things may have gone the way you'd hoped and expected.
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Another example...The city of New Your recently "outlawed" the use of the word nigger, there's no penalty for using the word, but there is an ordinance drafted against it. Has Britain passed any such comparable legislation? Anywhere ? Discuss....
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Or how about establishing what the words liberal and political correctness really mean. I tend to favour Birgit's definition of liberal, and will happily live within that framework, but when it comes to the wholesale condemnation of others for not having the "right" opinion...well..that's where I'm going to take my leave.
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Take the Maori thread as an example. So Albertaboy said something "inappropriate" What happened? Wholesale condemnation with all sorts of speculation ( it's not his site) , veiled threats ( his post about phone calls ) . Not one person, save FireNix, even questioned that this guy may have been basing his post on inaccurate information ( his friends were just plain wrong ) No..it was all assumption that this guy was just being an for the sake of being an and wasn't deserving of anything remotely resembling tolerance or compassion, but should instantly be burned at the stake..so to speak.
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As to misreading posts...well..all I can say is get a grip... I suggest we all spend a little more time reading before we post.
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stop the cunning, I sincerely get the impression you don't mean it.
Maybe its because you're more willing to spend far more energy on perpetuating personal aversions than to focus on the topic... ??? or maybe it's because you are depending on claqueurs? (no offence meant)
You seem to be stuck in (political) issues... what a surprise [/ironic]
"Racism" is not about skin colour or nationality, but on personality (and right now you seem not to be prone to look beyond yours... )
It's not depending on cultural/ ethnical background and I guess my (controversial) thread back then was exclusively designed for you...
Consider to read it one more time (you have kept a copy, as I learned) - you may show off in public, but I'm afraid you may have not gotten the true essence of it by heart...
If "political correctness" degrades to a mere shell, without content, then I rather prefer ppl who express their judgement straightforward, like Imus. Honesty goes so much further...
yeah, maybe I'm just getting too sensitive after a loooooooong day and travelling. So I give you that one again: "no offence meant!"
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Written by: onewheeldaveWritten by: FireTom
at least in both countries it's politically correct for an Afro-American to use derogatory expressions within his own ethnic group... that much we've learned so far.
That's debatable- some blacks actively put forward their view that habitual use of terms like 'nigger/nigga' amongst a sub-section of blacks, is harmful to black culture as a whole.
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