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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:I'll not name, but here are people using word 'gay', to

have fun from others, but I think it is quite unfair.



Sexual orientation is personal thing and someone

can feel accused. Have fun, but talk moral.



no comment,



:R


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Dr_Molly
Dr_Molly

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Location: Away from home
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Posted:He's not. I checked smile



Back to Meg's faggots (mainly because it featured in the Simpsons last night and they subtitled the scene with a dictionary definition)

.

If I say I'm off to collect faggots to burn and Meg takes offense...

...am I at fault for not taking misinterpretation / slang / alternative definitions into consideration or

...is Meg at fault for drawing incorrect conclusions / having a small vocabulary / being gay ( wink )?


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dream
dream

currently mending
Location: Bristol
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Total posts: 493
Posted:According to the bastion of ghetto street cred the BBC... Gay means rubbish...

The guardian's response was to print IS THIS A BIT GAY? across the front page of the G2 section of their paper... Provoking bemusement from PC loving middle class liberals. Who adopt the position found below...

the guardian online


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mcp
mcp

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Posted: Written by: Molly


If I say I'm off to collect faggots



I'd be like: What are you gonna do with them! eek

or: I didn't know faggots grew in forests... I thought they came in tins...

or just: ubblol ubblol

or even: you wanna burn maggots? Why? ubbloco


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Igirisujin
Igirisujin

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Posted: Written by: Neon_Shaolin



NYC - I think us gays accept the word gay so we retain the right be as bitchy and offensive to others as possible (Fair Trade and all... tongue)



By jove hes got it!

The majority of gay men have allways (and I hope allways will) enforce the idea of gay steriotypes for our own enjoyment. So we give permission for people to call things gay, and we secretly smile about it smile

we even feel happy about others enforcing the gay steriotypre, like Kylie or Cher in concert, or Joan rivers on stage, or Cybil Sheppard on tv.


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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:In conversation or dialog, using of sexual

or immoral word signify, social thread ex-

cluded, low level of discussion.



lightning,



:R


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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

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Posted:I think all hoppers are bummers anyway tongue

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polarity
polarity

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Posted:You're not thinking about pegging again are you?

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

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jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
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Posted:ooh which kind of pegging are you talking about wink

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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:richee, your closing you eyes t comunication, and because we jokingly use the word gay means we have shallow discussion?

1) the biggest offender here is also the most intresting to read, on any subject.

2) have you read hop recently? it doesnt have to use sexual slag just to be mediochre! e.g. the last person to post wins! thread.

how dare you dictate to me what I can say in public, its not your forum, how would you like it if i put up a thread about peaple who cant speak good english, and how they shouldent post because it just causes confusion...?

who are thease peaple taking offence? shouldnt they be able to close the window if they dont like it? "youve all got knobs havent you? so use them!" kenny everett

if you think that discussions that use the word gay are shallow and stupid, dont read them, gay is not on the censored list, and i dont think it should be.

by wanting to cencor its use, you may as well want to stop a cliff from eroding, a leaf from growing, a wave from curling.

we do far more good using gay as we do than we do harm to the few peaple who can get it out of context enough to be offended.

bad words are powerfull [censored] dick arse [censored] [censored] [censored] bugger, to powerfull for poilte discussion, but they serve tier perose, and to close yourself off to them is to ignore a basic part of what we are. language and its meaning chage through lifes action, it grows and chages like a cliff or a leaf or a wave. who are you to say wich way a wave should break? but you will ride it with the rest of us.

stop being a nanny. its so gay.

and you havent answered my first question.



T wave


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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
Total posts: 13920
Posted: Written by: Neon_Shaolin


Yes! I'm sick of being accused of being gay! Oh wait... shrug




Is that because you're a poof? ubbangel


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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:bang on...

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted: Written by: Doc Lightning


 Written by: Neon_Shaolin


Yes! I'm sick of being accused of being gay! Oh wait... shrug




Is that because you're a poof? ubbangel



He's a magic dragon now? I'm confused...


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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:gaaaaaaay! tongue

T

(there, i dun it)


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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
Location: Telford, Shrops
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Posted:Wikipedia says:

Common usage

Overview article: Terminology of homosexuality

* Gay is used as an adjective to describe sexual orientation and is usually chosen instead of homosexual as an identity label.
* Gay sex is used to describe sexual acts between or among people of the same sex or gender, regardless of their sexual orientation.
* Gay is used to describe the "gay community" by both insiders and the mainstream media.
* Gay is sometimes used to describe an object of particular flamboyance or camp.
* Gay can be used as a nonspecific derogatory comment towards a person or object. As a term of abuse it may be widely used by adolescents.
* Other connotations can vary widely based upon speaker and situation.


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Posted:good artical from the gardian, it didnt mention if under 28 gays were offended by it...



peaple will always say nasty things, we dont have to listen, or even let them have thier own words.



" * Gay is used as an adjective to describe sexual orientation and is usually chosen instead of homosexual as an identity label."



if we want to be gay and we want to call ourselves such, what right do we have to say that a few peaple cant use that grouping as a scapegoat.



I have done the same with americans, men, women, peaple from belgium (belgish?), david blunkett...



any or all of thease peaple could be offended to hear me, but im not directing malice at them, im just using whatever cultural referance for something bad.



its just a word, its not even that, its just a signifier for a thought, the signifier can change, but the thought will always be there. It dosnt matter if you say rubbish or pants or tack, the thought behind it will always be 'gay' (or whatever you call your thought for that thing)



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jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
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Posted:Pejorative non-sexualized usage

When used with a derisive attitude (e.g. "that was so gay"), the word gay is pejorative. The Times (June 6 2006, p.3) comments that while retaining its other meanings, it has also acquired "a widespread current usage" amongst young people, to mean "lame" or "rubbish". This pejorative usage has its origins in the 1980s, when homosexuality was more widely seen as negative by many people. Beginning in the 1990s and especially in the 2000s, the usage as a generic insult became common among young people, who may or may not link the term to homosexuality. This practice is frowned upon in communities that seek to ensure respect for people of all sexual orientations, and is considered by some to be on par with ethnic slurs. Many defenders of the word's pejorative usage choose to spell it "ghey" to avoid any sexual connotations. Critics object to this change of spelling, often comparing it to the use of words like "knigger" for nigger to evade accusations of racism.

A 2006 BBC ruling by the Board of Governors over the use of the word in this context by Chris Moyles on his Radio 1 show, "I don't want that one, it's gay", stated that:

The word 'gay' ... need not be offensive... or homophobic... The governors said, however, that Moyles was simply keeping up with developments in English usage. [...] The committee... was "familiar with hearing this word in this context." The governors believed that in describing a ring tone as 'gay', the DJ was conveying that he thought it was 'rubbish', rather than 'homosexual'. [...] The panel acknowledged however that this use... in a derogatory sense... could cause offence in some listeners, and counselled caution on its use.[


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HealthyTouchPro
HealthyTouchPro

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Posted: Written by: [Nx?

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richee, your closing you eyes t comunication, and because we jokingly use the word gay means we have shallow discussion?

1) the biggest offender here is also the most intresting to read, on any subject.

2) have you read hop recently? it doesnt have to use sexual slag just to be mediochre! e.g. the last person to post wins! thread.

how dare you dictate to me what I can say in public, its not your forum, how would you like it if i put up a thread about peaple who cant speak good english, and how they shouldent post because it just causes confusion...?

who are thease peaple taking offence? shouldnt they be able to close the window if they dont like it? "youve all got knobs havent you? so use them!" kenny everett

if you think that discussions that use the word gay are shallow and stupid, dont read them, gay is not on the censored list, and i dont think it should be.

by wanting to cencor its use, you may as well want to stop a cliff from eroding, a leaf from growing, a wave from curling.

we do far more good using gay as we do than we do harm to the few peaple who can get it out of context enough to be offended.

bad words are powerfull censored dick arse censored censored censored bugger, to powerfull for poilte discussion, but they serve tier perose, and to close yourself off to them is to ignore a basic part of what we are. language and its meaning chage through lifes action, it grows and chages like a cliff or a leaf or a wave. who are you to say wich way a wave should break? but you will ride it with the rest of us.

stop being a nanny. its so gay.

and you havent answered my first question.



T wave



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FoxInDocs
FoxInDocs

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Location: Adelaide, SA
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Total posts: 1848
Posted: Written by: ben-ja-men


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2212170,00.html
(totally stolen from meg)

language changes, its dynamic, personally i use the word gay alot

gay = slack
gay = lame
gay = as if you just pulled that trick off that was insane
gaylord = brett
gay = inlove with yourself
gay = happy
gay = stop licking my nipples! a simple hug hello will suffice



so, does "gaylord = brett" because he pulls off insane tricks or because he's happy and/or likes to lick your nipples?


ps. this thread's gay. ubbrollsmile


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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
Member Since: 27th Aug 2005
Total posts: 632
Posted:I'm gay, this thread is gay, I'm smiling and feeling gay... 3 different meanings of the same word, like for example: That colour is blue, I'm feeling blue, that blew. Again 3 different meanings to the same word (in sound at least). He's black, that's black humour, he's wearing black. 3 different meanings yet again!

Why shouldn't the word gay have multiple meanings?


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Neon_Shaolin
Neon_Shaolin

hehe, 'Member' huhuh
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Posted:Playing devil's advocate - Someone would argue that no one uses 'black' as meaning 'crap' and 'Blue' aren't a race of people. biggrin 'Gay' just happens to roll off people's tongue very easily.



 Written by: Drudwyn



I'm feeling blue, that blew.





That was a very gay third example tongue



How about 'the content of this film is a bit blue'?


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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
Member Since: 27th Aug 2005
Total posts: 632
Posted:What about the word sick which can mean good, or the American phrase "Badass" which also means good?

Words change their meanings, or have new meanings assigned to them. Yes I would prefer to not have the word gay meaning crap, but it's common usage now, and it needs to be taken back biggrin


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Mascot
Mascot

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Posted:can everyone who has a problem with the word "Gay" in it's current usage please stop being so gay about it.
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mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
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Posted:I think we have many uses of the word gay, but I think the contentious issue is:

People using the word 'gay' to mean lame, without any reference implied by them to it's other meanings, can offend both:

people who think it's offensive to homosexuals because the insult comes from being called gay, like it's bad.

people who think it's offensive to homosexuals because it associates homosexuality with lameness because the same word is used for both meanings.

and that's not to mention people that call things gay with the implied meaning that being gay is crap and therefore whatever they're calling gay is crap too. <- these sorts of people are obviously gay. wink


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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
Member Since: 27th Aug 2005
Total posts: 632
Posted:Homosexuality is gay.

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Neon_Shaolin
Neon_Shaolin

hehe, 'Member' huhuh
Location: Behind you. With Jam
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Total posts: 6120
Posted:That's why I'm taking a vow of celibacy...

Like my father and his father before him...


"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:We're all goin' to hell boys! Woooo!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Neon_Shaolin
Neon_Shaolin

hehe, 'Member' huhuh
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Posted:I call shotgun...

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
Member Since: 27th Aug 2005
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Posted:But can you imagine the parties? So much fire spinning, plus all the best bands will be there, it'd be like a late 80s metal fest wink

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Neon_Shaolin
Neon_Shaolin

hehe, 'Member' huhuh
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Posted:PFfft! Fire-spinning in hell is like sock spinning in here...



In Hell you have to spin with the semi-tangible manifestations of the essensces of the most powerfully vile souls or the incomprehensible truths of existance in all planes of reality....



Really fast with no control... Like ever... Forever...



All you need is a stick or a chain...


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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
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Posted:Mmmm, n-dimensional atomics, and tangling the tortured souls of those who have gone before. It'd be like Burning man after too much acid tongue

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