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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:
I'll not name, but here are people using word 'gay', to

have fun from others, but I think it is quite unfair.



Sexual orientation is personal thing and someone

can feel accused. Have fun, but talk moral.



no comment,



:R

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
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Posted:
Would you be asking me if I used one of these tongue ?

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
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Posted:
Sorry, I'm losing the will to maintain my Thetan Levels...

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BirgitBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Does Scientology have an opinion on homosexuality? Or do the aliens living in their heads not care about physical stuff?

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
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Posted:
 Written by: Birgit



Does Scientology have an opinion on homosexuality? Or do the aliens living in their heads not care about physical stuff?





Let's Ask Our Almighty Lord Wiki...

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BirgitBRONZE Member
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Posted:
they dislike homosexuality AND lesbianism? Wow... so much for their mind powers ubblol

I should so be working, but I've had to get up at 4 am to catch the plane and have had too much coffee for an attention span over 1 minute eek

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
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Posted:
I've been awake since 12noon yesterday. Now at work since 9 this morning and anouther 2hours to go...

offtopic that's gay!

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jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Posted:
my mum uses the word queer alot. But usually to ask if i'm feeling ok, or if I feel ill. "do you feel a bit queer jo?" smile bless her.

What I think is "gay" is when people spell gay as "ghey".

Eg: "man, that song is so ghey". It's so annoying!

If you're going to say "gay" to be derogatory, at least spell it right! GRR!

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mcpPLATINUM Member
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Posted:
I mean, I don't mind homosexuals, I just don't like the gay ones. ubbrollsmile

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NYCNYC
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Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Quick transition back on topic for a sec:

I think this is an imporant issue and one I've thought a bunch about. I know I might be in the minority (which always trips me out when I end up on the liberal side of things) for my dislike of intolerance.

Two points:
1) Language is a vehicle of communication. It is not just the speaker that is involved in language but the listener as well.

A speaker can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater and then say "Oh, no, my and my friends just use the word "Fire" to mean that everything is OK. It's not my fault that everyone else rioted."

2) Using a group of people as an insult is insulting to that group of people. Even if a small subsection of that group doesn't mind. If I redefine "British" as everyone with an IQ under 80, I am insulting Brits even if a few of them think it's funny.

Now, both of those points have limits. Many people, including my friends, insult each other in a joking manner. I often use irony when I think that others will understand I'm being ironic.

But I think that the speaker has some responsibility within the equation.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


polaritySILVER Member
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Posted:
I'm not bothered. I think it's funny because can say I'm double British.

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

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jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Posted:
Polarity ubblol smarty pants.

NYC, I see what you mean. however, you're thinking of the Irish wink

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mcpPLATINUM Member
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Posted:
fairy penguins!

It's funny cos penguins can be gay!

hahahahaha.... oh, I'll get my coat...

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HealthyTouchProBRONZE Member
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Posted:
 Written by: mcp


I mean, I don't mind homosexuals, I just don't like the gay ones. ubbrollsmile




LOL ubblol

Head in hands so much to learn...


crowley2BRONZE Member
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Posted:
 Written by: NYC


Using a group of people as an insult is insulting to that group of people. Even if a small subsection of that group doesn't mind. If I redefine "British" as everyone with an IQ under 80, I am insulting Brits even if a few of them think it's funny.




was just reading this thread and thought that this was an excellent argument

*standing ovation*
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polaritySILVER Member
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Posted:
Well, if you do redefine "British" as everyone with an IQ under 80, then the British have a huge empire again. No-one wants that.

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.


SymBRONZE Member
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Posted:
He's only copying our definition of americans wink

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mcpPLATINUM Member
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Posted:
was it soo wrong to really want to shout "GAYYY!!!" in response to any sensible posts on this thread? wink ubbangel

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polaritySILVER Member
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Posted:
Our definition? I thought it was everyone's definition? tongue Of the average American voter anyway.

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Posted:
you guys

Ive only ever seen 'gay' used on here in a blatently ironic context, the peaple on here who do have a problem, dont use it in any kind of joking or derogotory manner, they would get a right flaming for a start.

word are defined by thier use. Not by books or dictionaries. the reason some find the term 'gay' offesive is because of its passed use, it now is a negative word.

so, we want to reclaim the word, and in so by doing reclaim our pride (groan). we cannot use the word without implying a negative, because of its past use, but we can use it in ironic context which changes the meaning radically.

so the word gay has gone from a term of hate and persecution to meaning 'a bit naff'. sure its still negative, but i prefer it and use it now.

my point is, this transformation of the word has happened though its specialised use in exactly the kind of public context we presently occupy.

if we are not saying 'gay' to be offensive, sure we can be taken as such, but the word will always be offensive if it only used as such. only by our intentional light hearted use of the word will its meaning, and thefore its capacity to offend ever change.


I have a kinda personal question for NYC and richee, are you gay? (pm will do)


peace out.


T wave

p.s. I agree with Meg. F**k'em, gaylords! ubblol :gay:

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
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Posted:
'Language and Communication are not the same thing...'

btw {Nx} I hope for Molly's sake that NYC isn't.... biggrin

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Dr_MollyPooh-Bah
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Posted:
He's not. I checked smile



Back to Meg's faggots (mainly because it featured in the Simpsons last night and they subtitled the scene with a dictionary definition)

.

If I say I'm off to collect faggots to burn and Meg takes offense...

...am I at fault for not taking misinterpretation / slang / alternative definitions into consideration or

...is Meg at fault for drawing incorrect conclusions / having a small vocabulary / being gay ( wink )?

dreamSILVER Member
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Location: Bristol, New Zealand


Posted:
According to the bastion of ghetto street cred the BBC... Gay means rubbish...

The guardian's response was to print IS THIS A BIT GAY? across the front page of the G2 section of their paper... Provoking bemusement from PC loving middle class liberals. Who adopt the position found below...

the guardian online

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mcpPLATINUM Member
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Posted:
 Written by: Molly


If I say I'm off to collect faggots



I'd be like: What are you gonna do with them! eek

or: I didn't know faggots grew in forests... I thought they came in tins...

or just: ubblol ubblol

or even: you wanna burn maggots? Why? ubbloco

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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IgirisujinSILVER Member
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Posted:
 Written by: Neon_Shaolin



NYC - I think us gays accept the word gay so we retain the right be as bitchy and offensive to others as possible (Fair Trade and all... tongue)



By jove hes got it!

The majority of gay men have allways (and I hope allways will) enforce the idea of gay steriotypes for our own enjoyment. So we give permission for people to call things gay, and we secretly smile about it smile

we even feel happy about others enforcing the gay steriotypre, like Kylie or Cher in concert, or Joan rivers on stage, or Cybil Sheppard on tv.

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RicheeBRONZE Member
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic


Posted:
In conversation or dialog, using of sexual

or immoral word signify, social thread ex-

cluded, low level of discussion.



lightning,



:R

POI THEO(R)IST


jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Posted:
I think all hoppers are bummers anyway tongue

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polaritySILVER Member
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Posted:
You're not thinking about pegging again are you?

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.


jo_rhymesSILVER Member
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Posted:
ooh which kind of pegging are you talking about wink

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[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both


Posted:
richee, your closing you eyes t comunication, and because we jokingly use the word gay means we have shallow discussion?

1) the biggest offender here is also the most intresting to read, on any subject.

2) have you read hop recently? it doesnt have to use sexual slag just to be mediochre! e.g. the last person to post wins! thread.

how dare you dictate to me what I can say in public, its not your forum, how would you like it if i put up a thread about peaple who cant speak good english, and how they shouldent post because it just causes confusion...?

who are thease peaple taking offence? shouldnt they be able to close the window if they dont like it? "youve all got knobs havent you? so use them!" kenny everett

if you think that discussions that use the word gay are shallow and stupid, dont read them, gay is not on the censored list, and i dont think it should be.

by wanting to cencor its use, you may as well want to stop a cliff from eroding, a leaf from growing, a wave from curling.

we do far more good using gay as we do than we do harm to the few peaple who can get it out of context enough to be offended.

bad words are powerfull [censored] dick arse [censored] [censored] [censored] bugger, to powerfull for poilte discussion, but they serve tier perose, and to close yourself off to them is to ignore a basic part of what we are. language and its meaning chage through lifes action, it grows and chages like a cliff or a leaf or a wave. who are you to say wich way a wave should break? but you will ride it with the rest of us.

stop being a nanny. its so gay.

and you havent answered my first question.



T wave

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-><- Kallisti


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
 Written by: Neon_Shaolin


Yes! I'm sick of being accused of being gay! Oh wait... shrug




Is that because you're a poof? ubbangel

-Mike

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