Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > Defining isolations
Login/Join to ParticipateGOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Because I see a lot of people asking for this and wasn't able to find anything definitive heres my best shot.
Isolating essentially means moving the centre of the circle to a point on the string (whereas normally, it is your hand)
To do this you move your hand in a circle with the poi so it makes a smaller circle. In a full isolation (both poi isolating together in split time) the strings will always be parallell and will seem to float
So essentially your hand is moving in the same circle as the opposite poi head
Keep in mind this is only for what we call a full isolation, any move can be isolated, and this is done by moving your hands in circles, in any weave isolation I have ever seen the strings will always be parallell for longer than normal
I'll try to get a video of the compound full isolation soon
Jay
Because I see a lot of people asking for this and wasn't able to find anything definitive heres my best shot.
Isolating essentially means moving the centre of the circle to a point on the string (whereas normally, it is your hand)
To do this you move your hand in a circle with the poi so it makes a smaller circle. In a full isolation (both poi isolating together in split time) the strings will always be parallell and will seem to float
So essentially your hand is moving in the same circle as the opposite poi head
Keep in mind this is only for what we call a full isolation, any move can be isolated, and this is done by moving your hands in circles, in any weave isolation I have ever seen the strings will always be parallell for longer than normal
I'll try to get a video of the compound full isolation soon
Jay
enthusiast
384 posts
Location: West LA
384 posts
Location: West LA
Posted:
How do you get into and out of the isolations, and are there different ways to do it?
I think there are but I am too tired to write
andy
PS: And I think people are going to recommend you to do a search but imho its always an interesting toppic
How do you get into and out of the isolations, and are there different ways to do it?
I think there are but I am too tired to write
andy
PS: And I think people are going to recommend you to do a search but imho its always an interesting toppic
To learn - read. To know - write. To master - teach . . .
BRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,749 posts
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,749 posts
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Posted:
2 of each i recon...
T
2 of each i recon...
T
This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti
SILVER Member
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
hmm, it will have shown 9 threads on the subject when you tried to start this..
hmm, it will have shown 9 threads on the subject when you tried to start this..
Blinded by Hyperlights, please donate generously 
DIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom
Posted:
Apparently I said this:
[Old link]
One loves quoting oneself, it makes one sound so pretentious, darlings.
Apparently I said this:
[Old link]
One loves quoting oneself, it makes one sound so pretentious, darlings.
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Don't you know you can't link to a search result?
You can actually do a trick of hitting 'threaded' and then 'flat' to get the real URL.
[Old link]
Unless you did mean to link to your search of every time you said isolation.
But that would be REALLY pretentious.
Don't you know you can't link to a search result?
You can actually do a trick of hitting 'threaded' and then 'flat' to get the real URL.
[Old link]
Unless you did mean to link to your search of every time you said isolation.
But that would be REALLY pretentious.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Yes it did come up with other topics, but from what I read (which was admittedly rushed) I didn't see a really comprehensive defenition
I'm not sure what you mean getting in/out of them, you start, or stop moving your hand in a circle instead of just spinning the poi normally
Yes it did come up with other topics, but from what I read (which was admittedly rushed) I didn't see a really comprehensive defenition
I'm not sure what you mean getting in/out of them, you start, or stop moving your hand in a circle instead of just spinning the poi normally
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Yeah, prettymuch.
Yeah, prettymuch.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Finally got around to getting vids of isolations, and a few other moves that I really like that it really helps to be able to see over and over (5bt slide, showstopper, splittime ttn, and an air wrap)
Finally got around to getting vids of isolations, and a few other moves that I really like that it really helps to be able to see over and over (5bt slide, showstopper, splittime ttn, and an air wrap)
BRONZE Member
Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Posted:
The "showstopper" eh?
Is that like setting light to your trousers? Or just running out of fuel?
Written by: Kutulu
Finally got around to getting vids of isolations, and a few other moves that I really like...showstopper...
The "showstopper" eh?
Is that like setting light to your trousers? Or just running out of fuel?
Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Non-Https Image Link
We've generally got our own show stoppers here.
When the cops show up, take a bow and go home.
Non-Https Image Link
We've generally got our own show stoppers here.
When the cops show up, take a bow and go home.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
SILVER Member
your new best enemy
246 posts
Location: over the river, through the woods, USA
your new best enemy
246 posts
Location: over the river, through the woods, USA
Posted:
or where ever else they want to take you on that fateful night
or where ever else they want to take you on that fateful night
I'll get there too late if I shorten my stride, I'll get there too soon if I find me a ride, I'll never move forward if I try to hide this path that I've troden one step at a time.
SILVER Member
newbie
22 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
22 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Hey Jay. *cheers*
Hahaha,... showstopper..
Jeremy is the only guy I've seen who can pull that off.
K.. get this... he gets into a btb reverse weave, then isolated... in mid isolation, both ends are caught (right poi with left hand, left with right) and while still behind the back, swings one hand around and pulls this ridiculously cool liquid move around his head, and throws the poi back out into a 3 beat.
I've never seen anyone else do that.
Hey Jay. *cheers*
Hahaha,... showstopper..
Jeremy is the only guy I've seen who can pull that off.
K.. get this... he gets into a btb reverse weave, then isolated... in mid isolation, both ends are caught (right poi with left hand, left with right) and while still behind the back, swings one hand around and pulls this ridiculously cool liquid move around his head, and throws the poi back out into a 3 beat.
I've never seen anyone else do that.
They're just circles.. anything's possible
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Lol Hey Kris, I told you I could do it months ago :P I just dont do it much... cuz its not my move, ya know? click the link, theres a vid of it on my myspace
Edit: the link seems to be missing... so here they are:
Showstopper: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1606181141
Split time TTN: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606188328
Slow ST TTN: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606210629
Isolations: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606159384
5 beat Slide: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606460571
Air Wrap: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606220836
Lol Hey Kris, I told you I could do it months ago :P I just dont do it much... cuz its not my move, ya know? click the link, theres a vid of it on my myspace
Edit: the link seems to be missing... so here they are:
Showstopper: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1606181141
Split time TTN: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606188328
Slow ST TTN: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606210629
Isolations: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606159384
5 beat Slide: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606460571
Air Wrap: https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1606220836
Carpal \'Tunnel
7,193 posts
Location: in the trees
7,193 posts
Location: in the trees
they always stop the show SILVER Member
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
showstopper - ok, that is cool, lol, glad someone got it on tape instead of it just being myth and legend, stick it somewhere other than myspace tho so it can be archived / learnt?
showstopper - ok, that is cool, lol, glad someone got it on tape instead of it just being myth and legend, stick it somewhere other than myspace tho so it can be archived / learnt?
Blinded by Hyperlights, please donate generously
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Ummm.. like where ?
Ummm.. like where ?
SILVER Member
Shirt-Cocker Extraordinaire
47 posts
Location: Colorado, USA
Shirt-Cocker Extraordinaire
47 posts
Location: Colorado, USA
Posted:
lol that was a really cool movie, im getting to be better at poi than all my friends, so theres nowhere to see coll poi besides vids here or massives, now i have so many ideas for moves, like orbitals from bicep/wrist wraps, wrapping two strings on one arm and making them do a small butterfly around the wrist and pulling an orbital...
(moloch goes to find camera)
lol that was a really cool movie, im getting to be better at poi than all my friends, so theres nowhere to see coll poi besides vids here or massives, now i have so many ideas for moves, like orbitals from bicep/wrist wraps, wrapping two strings on one arm and making them do a small butterfly around the wrist and pulling an orbital...
(moloch goes to find camera)
GOLD Member
Lighting up the darkness, one performance at a time
161 posts
Location: south africa
Lighting up the darkness, one performance at a time
161 posts
Location: south africa
Posted:
cool isolations kutulu!! im going straight home to tries those out!
cool isolations kutulu!! im going straight home to tries those out!
***********************************************
You are the only problem you will ever have
and you are the only solution
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Glad I could help
Glad I could help
SILVER Member
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
glenaroo's been offering everyone free hosting on hop.
&or if you use google video or youtube people can download and save the vids as FLV's with firefox plugins like 'video ook'
glenaroo's been offering everyone free hosting on hop.
&or if you use google video or youtube people can download and save the vids as FLV's with firefox plugins like 'video ook'
Blinded by Hyperlights, please donate generously
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Well now that you mention it I did get some sort of email about free hosting... I'll go look that up
Well now that you mention it I did get some sort of email about free hosting... I'll go look that up
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Ok so I moved them all to youtube, hope that works for everyone
Ok so I moved them all to youtube, hope that works for everyone
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Good god, the 5 beat slide vid got 195 plays in 24 hours
Its really not that hard... just keep trying it until it works like I did lol
The fourth beat slides up...
Good god, the 5 beat slide vid got 195 plays in 24 hours
Its really not that hard... just keep trying it until it works like I did lol
The fourth beat slides up...
BRONZE Member
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posted:
it is too
it is too
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
SILVER Member
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
veteran
1,237 posts
Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Posted:
kutulu you should make some sockpoi, those hop glowballs suck for weight (got some last year, they were my favourites for a while, but no longer ), they're far to light for decent iso's and you can't see the cord well enough for the pattern to be nice.
you're "5 beat slide" is pretty much the movement you want for 5 beat iso weave, but i'd be very impressed if you could make it with such light poi.
/me working on an nice iso vid atm..
kutulu you should make some sockpoi, those hop glowballs suck for weight (got some last year, they were my favourites for a while, but no longer
), they're far to light for decent iso's and you can't see the cord well enough for the pattern to be nice.you're "5 beat slide" is pretty much the movement you want for 5 beat iso weave, but i'd be very impressed if you could make it with such light poi.
/me working on an nice iso vid atm..
Blinded by Hyperlights, please donate generously
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Any move is hard when you can't do it yet, I could do it, and therefore it was hard, so I stood there for an hour until it worked, and therefore wasn't hard anymore
Any move is hard when you can't do it yet, I could do it, and therefore it was hard, so I stood there for an hour until it worked, and therefore wasn't hard anymore
member
68 posts
68 posts
Posted:
wow kutulu thats pretty impressive
i still cant figure out isolations and they look so darn impressive!! is it just a case of practice or is there some amazing tip to getting it working??
wow kutulu thats pretty impressive
i still cant figure out isolations and they look so darn impressive!! is it just a case of practice or is there some amazing tip to getting it working??
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Nope, just practice
theyre stupidly easy, just like everything else, once you understand how they work
they have a very recognizable "feel" when you do them
Nope, just practice
theyre stupidly easy, just like everything else, once you understand how they work
they have a very recognizable "feel" when you do them
member
68 posts
68 posts
Posted:
oh i was hoping for an amazing tip lol
oh i was hoping for an amazing tip lol
GOLD Member
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
newbie
18 posts
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posted:
Yakumo, I missed your post somehow... Those actually aren't from HOP
I made them from scratch with a soft pvc plastic ball with a 3 LED unit inside of it that I bought from Home Depot (Bastards dont sell them anymore), Rope swivels and UV reactive nylon rope... the weight is beautiful, I've tried lots and lots of other poi and I dont like anything else, although I do really want a good set of sock poi
Yakumo, I missed your post somehow... Those actually aren't from HOP
I made them from scratch with a soft pvc plastic ball with a 3 LED unit inside of it that I bought from Home Depot (Bastards dont sell them anymore), Rope swivels and UV reactive nylon rope... the weight is beautiful, I've tried lots and lots of other poi and I dont like anything else, although I do really want a good set of sock poi
Similar Topics
Using the keywords [defining isolation *] we found the following existing topics.
- Forums > Defining isolations [31 replies]
Show more..
© 1998 - 2024 Home of Poi
All prices converted to United States dollars using XE.com