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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Posted:
Last Monday I placed a deadly poisonous Queensland cane toad (Buffo marinus) in my mouth for a dare at work, a trick that is extreamly effective at horrifying a bunch of middle aged mothers. I checked the poison sacks were not leaking first, of coarse, and have seen this trick performed many times before . I suffered no ill effects and did not taste any suplimentary toxins of the type usually shed by the green tree frog when handled or distressed.
While I dont normally perform this stunt on account of it being likely to distress the toad, I would like to perform a simmilar trick of placing my toungue on the toads back ,out of its visual field so as to cause minimal distress to the toad, or alternatively use a cold unconcious toad from the fridge. This image would be great for all mannor of t shirts against smoking, eating macdonalds, voting for John Howard, etc. something along the lines I'd rather put a toad in my mouth than do that.
Does anyone know if this creature is capable of secreating any suplementary toxins or irritants in adition to the primary toxin in its main poison sacks, in the way many other frogs can, and if so if these secreations are tasteable or not.
Also has anyone observed first hand a non injured toad eject its primary poison sack contents without having to be squeezed like a pimple or otherwise roughly handled. I personally have never observed this spontanious spitting cobra style act and suspect it is a myth, but none the less I would welcome any warnings from anyone who has seen it themselves or from a very credible source.
If so I think I will just stick to stroking spiders backs and getting huntsman spiders to run up my arm.
By the way, people are now calling me Adrian the Insane, do you think I should amalgamate all my user names into that one,or keep different ones for different forums?
Last Monday I placed a deadly poisonous Queensland cane toad (Buffo marinus) in my mouth for a dare at work, a trick that is extreamly effective at horrifying a bunch of middle aged mothers. I checked the poison sacks were not leaking first, of coarse, and have seen this trick performed many times before . I suffered no ill effects and did not taste any suplimentary toxins of the type usually shed by the green tree frog when handled or distressed.
While I dont normally perform this stunt on account of it being likely to distress the toad, I would like to perform a simmilar trick of placing my toungue on the toads back ,out of its visual field so as to cause minimal distress to the toad, or alternatively use a cold unconcious toad from the fridge. This image would be great for all mannor of t shirts against smoking, eating macdonalds, voting for John Howard, etc. something along the lines I'd rather put a toad in my mouth than do that.
Does anyone know if this creature is capable of secreating any suplementary toxins or irritants in adition to the primary toxin in its main poison sacks, in the way many other frogs can, and if so if these secreations are tasteable or not.
Also has anyone observed first hand a non injured toad eject its primary poison sack contents without having to be squeezed like a pimple or otherwise roughly handled. I personally have never observed this spontanious spitting cobra style act and suspect it is a myth, but none the less I would welcome any warnings from anyone who has seen it themselves or from a very credible source.
If so I think I will just stick to stroking spiders backs and getting huntsman spiders to run up my arm.
By the way, people are now calling me Adrian the Insane, do you think I should amalgamate all my user names into that one,or keep different ones for different forums?
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umm..congratulations?
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Wow!
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Well, given anecdotal evidence of Shamans 'toad-licking' to induce visions, i reckon it's quite possible that whatever toxins are in the poison sacs will be secreted from them without them having to "burst" or similar.
There's actually been a paper published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology which is all about licking cane toads! - "Bufo alvarius: a potent hallucinogen of animal origin."
But i could only find references to it on t'internet, not the paper itself.
erm, if you're gonna do it, make sure there's someone to take you to hospital just in case, ok? Driving will probably be quite tricky if you're paralysed and hallucinating.
and Adrian the Insane is a much better name than the Magnesium Master
EDITED_BY: simian (1163074868)
Well, given anecdotal evidence of Shamans 'toad-licking' to induce visions, i reckon it's quite possible that whatever toxins are in the poison sacs will be secreted from them without them having to "burst" or similar.
There's actually been a paper published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology which is all about licking cane toads! - "Bufo alvarius: a potent hallucinogen of animal origin."
But i could only find references to it on t'internet, not the paper itself.
erm, if you're gonna do it, make sure there's someone to take you to hospital just in case, ok? Driving will probably be quite tricky if you're paralysed and hallucinating.
and Adrian the Insane is a much better name than the Magnesium Master
EDITED_BY: simian (1163074868)
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The nice thing about the internet is you get to meet people who's life is so very different than your own.
I don't think I've done a 'dare' since I was in 4th grade and I don't think I've picked up a frog since before then.
Good luck with that though.
The nice thing about the internet is you get to meet people who's life is so very different than your own.
I don't think I've done a 'dare' since I was in 4th grade and I don't think I've picked up a frog since before then.
Good luck with that though.
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You're a worry Adrian..
and as a footnote..
Just empathising with the toad for a second, but Adrian- if your tongue was on my back, whether I could see you or not I'd still be in distress.
You're a worry Adrian..
and as a footnote..
Written by: The_Magnesium_Master
I would like to perform a simmilar trick of placing my toungue on the toads back ,out of its visual field so as to cause minimal distress to the toad
Just empathising with the toad for a second, but Adrian- if your tongue was on my back, whether I could see you or not I'd still be in distress.
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I remember a story ( from about 15 years ago ) that had old folks in Australian retirement homes keeping these things as pets. The home staff thought this rather odd, until surveillance revealed that the residents were licking these things for giggles and grins. Urban myth ?
Our local pet store claims they lost count of how many inquiries they got wondering "just how can I get one of these toads" ? true story, I was one of the inquirers
The Simpsons had an episode with cane toads in it.
I'd go for Adrien the eccentric myself,,,if you're going to go for mental instability, it's better to present the illusion of wealth and power
I remember a story ( from about 15 years ago ) that had old folks in Australian retirement homes keeping these things as pets. The home staff thought this rather odd, until surveillance revealed that the residents were licking these things for giggles and grins. Urban myth ?
Our local pet store claims they lost count of how many inquiries they got wondering "just how can I get one of these toads" ? true story, I was one of the inquirers
The Simpsons had an episode with cane toads in it.
I'd go for Adrien the eccentric myself,,,if you're going to go for mental instability, it's better to present the illusion of wealth and power
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Dude, why don't you just go ahead and gobble up on some beladonna and finish yourself up!!!
Seriously...didn't your mother ever teach you not to put strange things in your mouth.....you don't know where they've been....
Dude, why don't you just go ahead and gobble up on some beladonna and finish yourself up!!!
Seriously...didn't your mother ever teach you not to put strange things in your mouth.....you don't know where they've been....
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... ummmmmm is this anything like licking a certain type of frog and tripping out due to the toxins???? 
... ummmmmm is this anything like licking a certain type of frog and tripping out due to the toxins???? BRONZE Member
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I have a friend who used to teach biology in one the Sydney universities, they dissect cane toads there. One day she was taking her class when one of the blokes at the back collapsed to the floor, fitting and foaming at the mouth, turned out he'd eaten the gonads of the toad to try and get a high, he spent three days in a coma.
She had to start the classes with "Do not touch the cane toad, do not lick the cane toad, do not eat the cane toad." Just to make it clear.
I've handled the godawful things without any harm, never seen them emit the toxin without having to give them a good squeeze, run them over plenty with the lawn mower and haven't seen them squirt it out.
Every year we do a cane toad round-up in the local botanic gardens, we got 7000 of them last year in one night, we ran out of freezer space in the end (you euthanise them by freezing them).
They're poisonous invaders that are decimating the local wildlife, if anyone doesn't know, though apparently crows have figured out if they flip them over they can get at the non-toxic underside and have a feed. Good riddence.
I have a friend who used to teach biology in one the Sydney universities, they dissect cane toads there. One day she was taking her class when one of the blokes at the back collapsed to the floor, fitting and foaming at the mouth, turned out he'd eaten the gonads of the toad to try and get a high, he spent three days in a coma.
She had to start the classes with "Do not touch the cane toad, do not lick the cane toad, do not eat the cane toad." Just to make it clear.
I've handled the godawful things without any harm, never seen them emit the toxin without having to give them a good squeeze, run them over plenty with the lawn mower and haven't seen them squirt it out.
Every year we do a cane toad round-up in the local botanic gardens, we got 7000 of them last year in one night, we ran out of freezer space in the end (you euthanise them by freezing them).
They're poisonous invaders that are decimating the local wildlife, if anyone doesn't know, though apparently crows have figured out if they flip them over they can get at the non-toxic underside and have a feed. Good riddence.
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
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Adrian.. what can I say. You're a ...... classic You certainly keep Juggle Jam interesting though. Missed you this week!
Adrian.. what can I say. You're a ...... classic
You certainly keep Juggle Jam interesting though. Missed you this week! rock hopping, hop-scotching, pippy pocky stocking - Sureau - thanks Jen!
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just incase anyone is mental enough to do this id just like to point out that Bufo Alvarius (or the Sonoran Desert Toad that all the toad licking stories come from) is NOT the same thing as the Bufo Marinus (Qld Cane Toad). Bufo Alvarius venom contains a powerful hallucinogen called 5-MeO-DMT as well as the poison bufotenin. Bufo Marinus venom ONLY CONTAINS BUFOTENIN.
while there is a little evidence that bufotenin is also psychoactive, tho much weaker than 5-MeO-DMT, there is also a whole heap of evidence that its a horribe horrible thing to do to your body. comas, seizures, fun things like that
something i found while doing a lil research on this:
J's quote on smoking bufotenin, "I'ld rather smoke paint stripper".
sorry to sound so serious lol, and i doubt anyone would be stupid enough to try this. but then til now i doubted anyone would be stupid enough to put a cane toad in their mouth lol. no offense adrian.
*shakes head sadly*
(Mods: i know HoP isnt fond of talk about drugs and if you feel you need to delete this then please go ahead. i just thought id put in a little Safety Third notice because this thread really made me cringe lol)
Written by: simian
Well, given anecdotal evidence of Shamans 'toad-licking' to induce visions, i reckon it's quite possible that whatever toxins are in the poison sacs will be secreted from them without them having to "burst" or similar.
There's actually been a paper published in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology which is all about licking cane toads! - "Bufo alvarius: a potent hallucinogen of animal origin."
But i could only find references to it on t'internet, not the paper itself.
erm, if you're gonna do it, make sure there's someone to take you to hospital just in case, ok? Driving will probably be quite tricky if you're paralysed and hallucinating.
and Adrian the Insane is a much better name than the Magnesium Master
just incase anyone is mental enough to do this id just like to point out that Bufo Alvarius (or the Sonoran Desert Toad that all the toad licking stories come from) is NOT the same thing as the Bufo Marinus (Qld Cane Toad). Bufo Alvarius venom contains a powerful hallucinogen called 5-MeO-DMT as well as the poison bufotenin. Bufo Marinus venom ONLY CONTAINS BUFOTENIN.
while there is a little evidence that bufotenin is also psychoactive, tho much weaker than 5-MeO-DMT, there is also a whole heap of evidence that its a horribe horrible thing to do to your body. comas, seizures, fun things like that
something i found while doing a lil research on this:
J's quote on smoking bufotenin, "I'ld rather smoke paint stripper".
sorry to sound so serious lol, and i doubt anyone would be stupid enough to try this. but then til now i doubted anyone would be stupid enough to put a cane toad in their mouth lol. no offense adrian.
*shakes head sadly*
(Mods: i know HoP isnt fond of talk about drugs and if you feel you need to delete this then please go ahead. i just thought id put in a little Safety Third notice because this thread really made me cringe lol)
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Much though I would love to do this again ( once only I suspect) for a photo session, I am starting to think I should quit while Im still ahead and group this stunt in with fire breathing and hanging by 1 arm off the tops of power pylons , things I no longer do for safety reasons as the risk is not worth the reward.
By the way I got bitten by a huntsman spider last week aswell. Pulled some vinal off an old stool and took a direct hit on the finger when I grabed a concealed spider aswell. didnt hurt that much, just ironic that I ve probably let 1 run up my arm at least 20 times without problems (as long as you dont move the hand you let it crawl on and keep chaseing it untill it is FULLY on your hand )
Much though I would love to do this again ( once only I suspect) for a photo session, I am starting to think I should quit while Im still ahead and group this stunt in with fire breathing and hanging by 1 arm off the tops of power pylons , things I no longer do for safety reasons as the risk is not worth the reward.
By the way I got bitten by a huntsman spider last week aswell. Pulled some vinal off an old stool and took a direct hit on the finger when I grabed a concealed spider aswell. didnt hurt that much, just ironic that I ve probably let 1 run up my arm at least 20 times without problems (as long as you dont move the hand you let it crawl on and keep chaseing it untill it is FULLY on your hand )
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all i can say mate is that you are a Darwin Award waiting to happen
all i can say mate is that you are a Darwin Award waiting to happen "Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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All i can add to this topic is that the qld cane toad have some special poison, cause its them who sit on cow pads, and from cow pads we get Magic mushrooms. And magic mushrooms are very good.... MMmmm magic mushroom. (but i believe the poison in this case in strickneen)
All i can add to this topic is that the qld cane toad have some special poison, cause its them who sit on cow pads, and from cow pads we get Magic mushrooms. And magic mushrooms are very good.... MMmmm magic mushroom. (but i believe the poison in this case in strickneen)
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'SHROOMS!!! Much rather put those in my mouth than a FROG!!!
Can wash the 'shrooms first....washing the frog probably wouldn't help much!!! Blech!!!
There are some things I just *will not* put in my mouth!!!
'SHROOMS!!! Much rather put those in my mouth than a FROG!!!
Can wash the 'shrooms first....washing the frog probably wouldn't help much!!! Blech!!!
There are some things I just *will not* put in my mouth!!!
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whoops, i stand most corrected...
i was always bad at latin, good job i hadn't licked all these toads yet.
now i've just gotta get rid of them somewhere... anyone know an ecosystem that needs wreaking havoc on?
Written by: The Fade
just incase anyone is mental enough to do this id just like to point out that Bufo Alvarius (or the Sonoran Desert Toad that all the toad licking stories come from) is NOT the same thing as the Bufo Marinus (Qld Cane Toad). Bufo Alvarius venom contains a powerful hallucinogen called 5-MeO-DMT as well as the poison bufotenin. Bufo Marinus venom ONLY CONTAINS BUFOTENIN.
whoops, i stand most corrected...
i was always bad at latin, good job i hadn't licked all these toads yet.
now i've just gotta get rid of them somewhere... anyone know an ecosystem that needs wreaking havoc on?
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Over the side!
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my prefered method of toad removal in the NT was a swiftly moving shovel
my prefered method of toad removal in the NT was a swiftly moving shovel
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Lol Adrian, you worry me sometimes...
I had to come back here just to read this thread. :P
Lol Adrian, you worry me sometimes...
I had to come back here just to read this thread. :P
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indeed splatto, a shovel is instant death and so much more readily avalible.
indeed splatto, a shovel is instant death and so much more readily avalible.
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Anyone seen the Craic? You see a bullfrog put out of its misery by a well placed 9 iron
Anyone seen the Craic? You see a bullfrog put out of its misery by a well placed 9 iron
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they actually make a popping sound if you hit them with the flat side of a shovel.
they actually make a popping sound if you hit them with the flat side of a shovel.
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From bursting the poison sacs, I presume?
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they actually make a popping sound if you hit them with the flat side of a shovel.
From bursting the poison sacs, I presume?
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i'm not really sure, but they're quite dead afterward.
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they actually make a popping sound if you hit them with the flat side of a shovel.
From bursting the poison sacs, I presume?
i'm not really sure, but they're quite dead afterward.
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Bufotenin, one of the chemicals excreted by the Cane Toad, is classified as a Class 1 drug under Australian drug laws. This is the same classification as heroin and cocaine. It is thought that the effects of bufotenin are similar to that of mild poisoning; the stimulating effect, which includes mild hallucinations, lasts for less than one hour. As the Cane Toad excretes bufotenin in very small amounts, and other toxins in relatively large amounts, toad licking could result in serious illness or death.
Bufotenin, one of the chemicals excreted by the Cane Toad, is classified as a Class 1 drug under Australian drug laws. This is the same classification as heroin and cocaine. It is thought that the effects of bufotenin are similar to that of mild poisoning; the stimulating effect, which includes mild hallucinations, lasts for less than one hour. As the Cane Toad excretes bufotenin in very small amounts, and other toxins in relatively large amounts, toad licking could result in serious illness or death.
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as good as the photo op sounds... I'll admit I am now starting to worry Adrian... but it's all your choice.
As for getting rid of them, my uncle lives on a hill, he used to play hockey with them and you could hear them splat onto the road... unfortunatly someone built a house below them on the hill, so I dont think he plays hockey anymore
as good as the photo op sounds... I'll admit I am now starting to worry Adrian... but it's all your choice.
As for getting rid of them, my uncle lives on a hill, he used to play hockey with them and you could hear them splat onto the road... unfortunatly someone built a house below them on the hill, so I dont think he plays hockey anymore
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