the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: TheBovrilMonkey
Really, I don't see the problem with these things.
I spent three years at uni living in a 2.25m x 2.25m room - it was pretty cramped but not incredably oppresive and certainly not developed in a way to maximise useable space the way these cubes are.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: FireTom
Now I watched one of my favourite TV-programmes this morning ("Discovery-Channel") and I come across this image (sorry can't provide one here at the moment) of Mini-cubicles.
A reporterette was showing this awful, Micro apartment and had a big fat smile on her face all the time, trying to seel this as THE most desirable solution to housing problems found ever! bluargh!!!!!!!
I saw the image of a few cubicles (carrying the "O2" image (a cellphone company) allover) - each measuring 2.65m x 2.65m (for all the fractionists, that is 104.33 inches!!!)
In this cubicle you find "everything": A bathroom, a toilet, a kitchen, a flatscreen TV (one bit of "freedom"), a microwave and stove, 2 garbagebins (to seperate and recycle the trash!!!), a main bed and the opportunity to convert the table and seats to a second bed (if you're having guests who sleep in that is - most certainly you'd be able to celebrate an orgy in there)... Ach and I forgot to mention: they are all airconditioned (not sure, whether one could open the window anyways)...
And to topple all this I had to learn that this project (everybody seems so satisfied with) was founded in Munich (my hometown)! You heard right, not Tokio, Munich/ Germany.
This is regarded as THE TOPLEVEL solution for the current housing problem we're facing in Munich - especially for students!
At first I was unsure, whether to throw up, or freak out and simply decided to upon it. It became obvious - to me - that with growing population, space is getting rare and housing is expensive (the cubicle costs about 100 bucks, opposing 4-600 for a regular apartment in the area)
Now I would like to ask you:
Do you agree that we have by far not enough space and money to afford "aedequate" housing - which makes projects like this inevitable?
or
Do you agree, that this is one of the most outrageous cases of abuse of humans in need?
Would you feel comfy in such environment (in Germany we have bad weather conditions 3/4 of the year, which sometimes make it merely impossible to sit outside and read a book) and would you also consider this your "dreamhouse"?
I mean, put wheels under it, an engine and wooops! you have a motorhome (in which you are not permitted to live inside a (German) city and which is no legitimate address)....
To give you a brief, visual impression
click here....
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Agrees once more with dream: The idiots are winning....
Written by: FireTom
I find it disgusting. Period. I also find the living conditions in Tokyo, Hong Kong and other metros disgusting, where entire families have to reside in a one-bedroom apartment.
It's greed, greed it is and not more or less.
Written by: FireTom
It's not as if anyone would be "forced" to live in such a cubicle... but Munich (for example) has one of - if not THE highest levels of rent/ sqare metres in Germany, going up to 25 Euros/ sqm.
Written by: FireTom
In Germany - to rule out the argument of birth control - we have a stagnating and overaging population. I am almost certain that living under these conditions will not stimulate the people to start a family, but vice versa.
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
Written by: FireTom
Rozi, how can I inform exactly what the councils policy about this is? I'm no member of it...
If you follow the link Spanner provided on the first page, you get detailled information of the developer, along with FAQ's.
There is a project running at the Technical University (TU) in Munich with 6 units. So far it has not been expanded. The purpose of the design is intended for "student and social housing", but - so far - the plan has not been seriously adapted by the council.
Excuse me, I'm dead tired at the moment and can't straighten my thoughts as to comply with your query...
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: Pele
May I ask, was your toilet, shower, stove, oven, microwave, fridge, dining table and chairs as well as bed and stuff all in there? Most dorm rooms I've lived in don't allow/have alot of those things in them. So I see it as much different spacially speaking.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
Written by: FireTom
@Rozi: in no way I would keep you from living there and even raise your children. At your disposal I doubt that the council would prevent you from using it long term, as long as they do not have feasible alternatives.
I'm not intending to start an argument with you, pls - but I'm not noticing any recommendation of teh developer NOT to use it as a long term solution. Why would they do negative advertisement IF it's obvious you shouldn't? They're only stating that all 6 experimental tenants have "begged" to endure their stay...
So far (!) this debate is about "choice" - whereas (if this project was to be pushed to a big scale) "choice" is the wrong term, in the face of extremely high rents in Munich.
...Do you get the point?
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: FireTom
Did I make myself a little clearer to you now, or do you expect me to prepare an entire lecture (with statistics and graphs) in order to provide sufficient evidence? I'm certain that students who study politics, economics and sociology will be able to word this much clearer than I am able to.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
Ask a question and be a fool for a minute...don't ask and be a fool your whole life.
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