the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Love is the law.
Written by: sagetree
if anyone with experience has advice as to the minimum rates for this type of gig i am all ears. as far as i'm concerned we are not doing a free show. i have been told that we will be paid just havn't been told how much yet. if all goes well i would expect a better deal for future events because they also have a right to see how things go the first time.
Not a spinner!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: sagetree
if anyone with experience has advice as to the minimum rates for this type of gig i am all ears. as far as i'm concerned we are not doing a free show. i have been told that we will be paid just havn't been told how much yet. if all goes well i would expect a better deal for future events because they also have a right to see how things go the first time.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"you know there are no trophys for doing silly things in real life yeah pete?" said ant "you wont get a 'listened to ride of the valkyries all the way to vietnam' trophy"
*proud owner of the very cute fire_spinning_angel, birgit and neon shaolin*
Not a spinner!
Getting to the other side
This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti
Written by: ado-p
True, its all about the hot chicks
Your right of course about safety and the environment. I would rather advocate awareness than regulation though. There seems to be a sentiment of 'come down hard on the newbies' from some posting here though and I think that is somewhat harsh. We were all beginners and I would bet that most people in the trade have learned the hard way.
I'd be interested in how many people here are performing professionally and how long everyone else has been at it. What have your experiences been like?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: onewheeldaveWritten by: ado-p
True, its all about the hot chicks
Your right of course about safety and the environment. I would rather advocate awareness than regulation though. There seems to be a sentiment of 'come down hard on the newbies' from some posting here though and I think that is somewhat harsh. We were all beginners and I would bet that most people in the trade have learned the hard way.
I'd be interested in how many people here are performing professionally and how long everyone else has been at it. What have your experiences been like?
I developed in a cowboy fashion from many years back- i do know what it's like to be a newbie and I know how dangerous it is for the performer and, far more important, innocent bystanders.
Just because, like many here, I was a cowboy does not prevent me from saying this is the wrong way to do things.
These days the knowledge of the risks are out there.
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Love is the law.
Getting to the other side
Written by: ado-p
I find it a shame that in these days of 'litigation culture' that one of the foremost thoughts in our minds when considering safety is about law suits and that sometimes this seems to overshadow the trauma of a serious injury.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
Written by: _Y_
a good show is about so much more than playing technical stuff.
Fear my wrath and call me muffin for I am the muffin of doom!!
Written by: OWD
get f*cked
Written by: ado-p
I cant figure out if you've taken me out of centext or not. My post was aimed at the people taking an agressive and negative stance against new people who are making mistakes are are talking about forming regulatory bodies...
Written by: ado-p
I agree completly with you dave. Saftey first.
I find it a shame that in these days of 'litigation culture' that one of the foremost thoughts in our minds when considering safety is about law suits and that sometimes this seems to overshadow the trauma of a serious injury.
Written by: ado-p
'I find it a shame that in these days of 'litigation culture' that one of the foremost thoughts in our minds when considering safety is about law suits and that sometimes this seems to overshadow the trauma of a serious injury. '
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
Written by: NYC
Nobody just skimmed my post and mistread it as "All firespinners are unprofessional" or "Firespining doesn't deserve to be an art" or something it didn't actually say?!
Why did I even LOG onto the INTERNET if people aren't going to misrepresent what I said and react solely from emotion and personal bias?
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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So, if we as spinners wish to self-regulate, we need to accept that the rules are not going to be to everyones liking (we're a very diverse community) but perhaps to reflect on the fact that we'd do a better job than government legislative bodies?
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if you think that'd be a good idea, then you could do it yourself, and maybe other people would help out. Talking about organisations that should exist, and what would be great is kinda pointless without some sucka to do the groundwork
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: NYC
On a positive note, I think you can influence individual communities. If you get to know local fire inspectors and police and local club promoters and local event organizers then you CAN develop a situation where everyone becomes educated enough to make yourself a commodity. And you can actually create an ideal by having promoters and law enforcement recognize the difference between professionals and non-professionals. I don't think this happens in a top-down manner like y'all are talking about. I think this happens on an individual case-by-case basis in individual communities.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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