Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
Magnus... pay it forward
wherever you go, there you are.
FIRE IS ALIVE!
IT LIVES AND BREATHS!
IT CONSUMES, AND DISTROYS!
BUT WE CONTROL IT,
AND DANCE WITH FIRE!!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
quote:Just re-posting the terms of the debate. I am not going to put in a statement pro or con. rather this post is going to serve as further definition, although please feel free to challenge it:
"The USA has done it's best to promote peace in the world."
That is the topic of this debate, please debate whether or not you believe this (Pro) or you do not believe this (Con).
ground rules
I will like to lay down some ground rules, do not worry they go double for me!
Please keep all posts emotion freePlease do not be rudePlease state that you are either Pro or Con/Anti at the top of every post (This is just to keep people from getting confused)Please stay on topicPlease refrain from starting a flame war.Please completly read the post you are responding to before you respond.
I do have some requests;
please try to prove your point using links or references to a source that you may have quoted.Please try to answer any and all questions, the advantages of doing this online is that you can say your whole piece without interruption.If you feel that you have a third stance on this issue please feel free to say it, I only ask that you outline it in a simple sentence at the top of your post.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
-v-
Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
-v-
Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...
quote:Salinger, can you back that up with a link or something? That is the first time that I have heard anything about that.
After the first Gulf War ended the US recommended to an opposing Iraqi Muslim group to Saddam's that this was their opportunity to attack and take over. Massively outnumbered, they met their death quickly, desperate for support from the US govt which promised them a backing and then simply walked away.
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
HEEEEEEEEED!!
quote:Somehow managed to find a link for this Raymund, it was on a very good tv programme called Axis on Evil investifating the link that Bush purports and here's what it says:
Originally posted by Raymund P.:
quote:Salinger, can you back that up with a link or something? That is the first time that I have heard anything about that.
After the first Gulf War ended the US recommended to an opposing Iraqi Muslim group to Saddam's that this was their opportunity to attack and take over. Massively outnumbered, they met their death quickly, desperate for support from the US govt which promised them a backing and then simply walked away.
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A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...
quote:So your saying that if the US hadnt changed its offical stance on WWII, then the UK would have been able to free France and the rest of occupied Europe? I honestly dont think they could have. The Germans were bombing London and every stratigic point on the map. With out the US invention of Radar, the UK would have sufferd more. The UK bombers couldnt reach Berlin and without the US B52s the UK would have had no way to strike back at the heart of Germany.
Oh and I have to comment that Ray made the dangerous error of posting the ominous theme of America coming to the rescue of Europe and we would have capitulated without them. GARGH!!! One more person says that to me and I will flip. Its not in any way personal, its just one of my pet hates
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
quote:I thought that it was more along the lines of if Hitler hadn't turned on Stalin we all would be speaking german right now.Good thread though.
Originally posted by Raymund P.:
Without US aid all of Western Europe would be speeking German right now. I cant tell you if the US went to war for its own interests or not, I just dont have that knowlege.
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
quote:I believe that a couple of "Nukes" were dropped by the US in WWII. So they did exist, and so did Bio weapons and chemical weapons, the Nazi's were messing around with Mustard gas (without a great deal of sucess admittedly) in WWI.
Nuclear bombs and biological weapons did not exist
quote:So lets see:
With out the US invention of Radar, the UK would have sufferd more. The UK bombers couldnt reach Berlin and without the US B52s the UK would have had no way to strike back at the heart of Germany.
Using the keywords [open debate] we found the following existing topics.