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'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

and another question to you or any one

do you manage to get beyond the magic 4th round (16 catches)
i still don�t
haven`t tried really hard since my arms get too wabbly after

and a itsy bitsy progress in the 5staff world i got too announce managed too do one 5 staff flash (with 5 catches)
happy but long ways too go

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

 Written by: darimoth


5 shower flash? wow!
really.
wow.

Wander what hands you have to hold all5 staves:)



thanks lol
i did it the one time
lucky shot nothing more i guess

and tim did you try the pattern with 3 when you flash 2
wait a count and then throw the third one the 4th count
it did help me lots

what you mean flashing three consistent thats a preparation for 5 you know that ,or
it,s not really for 4
but might help since its a faster rhythm than the actually 4 staff shower
or am i wrong here

and when is feuerkunst again ??
lets try meeting
since we are not sure if we go again to �bereurope

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

 Written by: bentstix





and tim did you try the pattern with 3 when you flash 2
wait a count and then throw the third one the 4th count
it did help me lots





True.I've tryied 4 flash for long time and it was not leading to nothing for long long time because,n my opinion,it's uselss to try the moves if you don0t have clear in mind what THE STAFF has do to (how many roll in the air,woh high..)

Another good things for the 4-5 shower is the "empty" time,like you throw 2 and clap your hands instead on throwing the rest,it' s a good way to have clear(in mind) how high have to throw and how many time you have to prepare the catch.
Like the piruette training for clubs

balst i find that in 531 i do not make any 1...........so the pattern is uncomplete. the 1 for me it's just like a 2
no good.

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

 Written by: darimoth



balst i find that in 531 i do not make any 1...........so the pattern is uncomplete. the 1 for me it's just like a 2
no good.



try out of the half-shower makes it easier, for me at least
good luck
finding the one

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

Crazy jugglers...



I managed to flash a 5 staff trick a few times once. It was like doing a 4 staff fountain but throwing one more staff from the right hand as high as possible and then try to catch everything. Not really beautiful.



And 3 on one hand is possible so skip the 5 and go for a 6 staff fountain.



Crazy jugglers...

Point your toes.

hello josh, everything good ? and hey you guys must come to uber i want todo this 5,6 staff passing agian + some contact huhu

 Written by: bentstix


try out of the half-shower makes it easier, for me at least




hmm strange, so from halfshower, but here you have to change direction of the 1...if you do it bevore actually transfer it�s a more complicated start than from a kaskade (in my opinion) and if you change direction after the transfer you need to build up a lot of force with the left hand shower throw (5) just out of your arm, not from the speed the staff travels....(exhausting or ?) -or do you not plan to play 531 continiously?
my favorite solution to your idea would be to throw the left hand 5 as a reverse throw in shower

hope you are fine again
what about play?

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

 Written by: JohnnyFettucini


Hey!

I'm allready on it! 3 on one hand thing
I can flash it on my right hand and hopefully soon on my left. So a 6 staff fountain flash is soon coming to a cinema near you!





lol

i mean i can do like nearly always 3 or 4 throws with three
staffs in the right hand
does that mean i also gonna get the 6 staffs soon

ooh dude thats a funny one

you were right bastl i�m a slacker
didn�t even cross my mind to do it continuously
thinking about it makes me agree the cascade is more appropriate to do the pattern continuously

so i do inside 5, out 3, left to right 1
and i came up with sweet variations
i gonna show you one day

and one day we will meet again

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

 Written by: bentstix


 Written by: JohnnyFettucini


Hey!

I'm allready on it! 3 on one hand thing
I can flash it on my right hand and hopefully soon on my left. So a 6 staff fountain flash is soon coming to a cinema near you!





lol

i mean i can do like nearly always 3 or 4 throws with three
staffs in the right hand
does that mean i also gonna get the 6 staffs soon




well, yes, if you practise the other hand.

i performed three staff juglging for the first time at the bjc. now i have a whole summer to learn new stuff (think i'm going to stick to cascade variations to avoid the shoulder issues), but for a start, i think these patterns will be worked on

4440
441
531 (variation 1s, btb, bth)
64113
63141
423 (loads of 2 variations)

Holistic Spinner (I hope)

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

Er, am I missing the irony in that comment? That simple? No, its not, first you need to properly juggle three in the right hand, always at the same height, and while staying perfectly still (not running all over the place like a dog chasing its tail to catch them all), and then learn it all over again with the left.

My estimate from three staff flash in one hand to doing a six staff fountain would be at least two years of hard work. At least.

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

i agree with you valerie
some people don�t see to have a very clear idea what it means to juggle multiple staffs PROPERLY..
but maybe that is not what everybody wants, to just produce a video of an ugly 6 staff flash you don�t need 2 years, BUT to actually be able to show it live to other jugglers and not just say: "look here is a vid about it" will take the time...

david pointed out to me, that this whole thread seems to change into a number juggling thread, who can flash the most staffs, it�s quite amusing
i don�t like flashes.. if you wanna do a 5 staff pattern do at least 6 catches, better 7 or 8. if you don�t than you will never feel the rhythm of the pattern, you just train something close to the pattern...because for a flash you don�t need rhythm. as antti said he did a 4 staff pattern and throwed one extra staff just really high and than try to catch everything down...thats not a pattern. thats a mess, really cool, but a mess.
if you really want to juggle 5 staffs, start with more than a flash..if you make a vid, show a qualify, cause 5 staff is a major step in staff juggling and it deserves more attention than just a "simple" flash. don�t get me wrong i am fare away of a 5 staff flash or qualify, i even don�t attempt it at all ...i am happy and more than busy with 3 staff patterns... if any of you guys does it, do it good
but like 5 staffs, (exept shower) how do you guys deal with the change of direction? when ever i think about possible 5 staff patterns, i quite don�t see how to make the direction change with 5 staffs, -it�s much faster than with 3, and harder to build up the throwing force for the hight...a way might be to play that "perfect kaskade" thing (beginning of the thread) but with 5 ???? i struggle with 3 staffs to get that pattern really clean ....any thoughts?

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

whereas i disagree (as a juggler before a spinner)

it really is that simple - if you have one side mostly good, and know how to practise then you are theoretically not far from being able to do it.

espescially when you read the original post which says '6 staff fountain flash coming to a cinema near you soon' - you all assumed juggle, and didn't read flash. (i DO agree with bastl about preferring a qualify to a flash, but that doesn't make the big number flash any less impressive)

anyway... back to the thread point managed a 64113 (once out of about 15 trys before my arm got tired from throwing the 6) on sunday Non numbers jugglers - thats a three staff pattern, where one staff goes high in a column, the second goes low in a column from the other hand, peaking at the same time, the third staff passes accross and back, then back into a cascade.

very satisfying.

Holistic Spinner (I hope)

 Written by: bluecat


it really is that simple - if you have one side mostly good, and know how to practise then you are theoretically not far from being able to do it.




for me 1st step is to learn one hand, 2nd step is the other hand and 3rd (the biggest part) is to jam both hands togehters...but anyway one hand is on the right way if we wanna agree on that

 Written by: bluecat


(i DO agree with bastl about preferring a qualify to a flash, but that doesn't make the big number flash any less impressive)




hm i still think it is a shame to stop with a flash and not to train a couble of catches further. the nature of a pattern is that it needs to be repeated, if you just flash you play the structure of a trick once. impressive, but as a trick not as a pattern...i prefere patterns, they have more potential to take them further to the next level

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

 Written by: Mynci


what sized staffs are people using for 5 and 6 staff stuff :erm: beacuse I get the feelilng they are turning into batons more than "staffs" and what is the qualifying length for a staff? my juggling clubs are about 60cm

when I hear 5 staff shower I'm imagining 5 x 4ft (120cm) staves spinning like a loon...



i use 110 cm ones
not a baton

and to the 6staff fountain
for sure 3 staff in one hand is a step
but if your not able to do the 666600
what does it bring
i would say after having this solid
you can speak about 6 staff flash or qualify or your mother or whatever

keep on doing silly things
its always good for a laugh


and bastl move your ass to berlin
to do some sillyness together

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

 Written by: bluecat


anyway... back to the thread point managed a 64113



forgot that in my last post...
dude thats wicked
i want to see that at uber
what kind of double transfer did you choose ?

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

 Written by: bastl


 Written by: bluecat


anyway... back to the thread point managed a 64113



forgot that in my last post...
dude thats wicked
i want to see that at uber
what kind of double transfer did you choose ?



And obvusly with fire!

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

 Written by: tim_marston


im getting confused as to what we mean by a flash?am i correct in saying a three staff flash could be either,making three throws and catches(when learning)
or throwing from a contiuous pattern all three staffs in the air and then going back into a continuous pattern????




could be eihter you are right, might be an idea to call the 2nd version (e.g. 3 staffs in the air, non in your hands, back to pattern) a "3up" or "5up" depending on the numbers of staffs...but be aware that you can also play a 3up with 5 staffs -and than it�s not a flash

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'