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tim -next time we meet you will learn it it will let your view about 3 staff possibilities explode

josh -slacker come to vienna -sorry i couldn�t make it, but i will, maybe end of summer -sillyness will happen

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

 Written by: tim_marston


josh,i think i understand,it just feels like being able to do a four staff shower 4up would help with the five staff shower??also how can i have a hole without havin the other four in the air??



tim if i remember right,
you actually do it , but you don`t know
4 in the air means - proper in the air,
so too empty hands for 2 more staffs would lead to a six staff pattern
maybe i come too feuerkunst for a night and show you what i mean

and bastl you�re the slacker i�ve been in Vienna
have you been in Berlin

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

i found the one!!!!!!!
it was strolling in florence to a park

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

@tim: some post ago we were talking about 531 with staff and i misunderstood the meaning of 1 in the pattern(1 with balls and club it's also called zip i guess)
i went in florence to buy kevlar and with some people went to play.there i found the ONE:)

Back to the meaning of the thread,and always about the 531,ok i found the 1(finally)but friends told me that throws can be done from inside or from outside.The true 531 it's easier from inside,imho,theese days i've tryied to make the outside with bad resoults.

Againg about in-outer thorws: 4440 and also columns.Antti throws from outside,and it seems to be the only way to still with colums,but can be done with inside throws??

LAst things: balst it's a wise guy,training the left hand it's not just funny(because sometimes staff goes anywhere) but also very very very usefull!
Today right shower and left shower for 2times ...doing that "running all over the place like a dog chasing its tail to catch them all"
I love you for saying that!

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

tim try to look at some siteswap site or information because talking it's harder that just watching animations

anyway 1 should mean that the"object" is not thorwn in air but just excanged from one hand to the other one,2 means that it stay still in the hand without changing hand and 0 that the hand is empty.

All other numbers are a throw,but pair(4-6-8) means that the hand who throws catch the item(lika a colum for example is 4),dispair mean that the itam it's thrown to the other hand(3-5-7).

Obvusly the higher is the number the higher is the throw.

So 531 means that: (5)right hand throw very high,(3) left hand throw non to high,and then (1) it's the right hand who exchange the staff to left--->(5) left throws high and so on..

About colums: with 1.20 cm lenght staff inside throws are harder,i find it simple to do it outside at least it's working for me :P

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

it�s not really whise to realize that if you have 2 hands, use them both to juggle...

for this stafflength discussion, david an me use 100 cm staffs ...for patterns like millsmess, rubensteins, etc it�s a compftable length, 120 would be so much harder to find the space in the air to make the under the arm catches ...

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

bastl always one step forward...
mill's mess? O_O
men i'm looking farward to meet and learn from you

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

damn,replacinfg the kevlar give the staff a different weight

ps am i the only stupid guy to to some fire training sometimes?

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

different weighted staffs are great, one of the best training methods i found, tells you loads about the staffmovement in the air, and ways to controll it

tim is right, without regular fire training, you won�t play comblicated patterns on fire, cause you need to retrain all figures constantly so you don�t burn your self all the time with the different ways of "holding" staffs

darimoth, are u at uber? like your 2 staff shower meanwhile going downstairs

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

no uber 4 me,i have exams close to the dayz...



About fire training,i agree at all in doing that,not just because i'm in love with fire but also because when it's dark the eyes has to look to the bright point..and men 6 point of light in the air are too much without some train.

Found thet is easier to catch if staff has some white strips in the middle,so the fire can light it and looking at that can help a lot to see the turning in the air.



One of the hardest problem(with fire) it's to throw duplex and catching right

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

Back to some siteswap lenguages:
52512
nice siteswap that can be played!
Last 3days was all for that,unsuccessful with 3 staff,so i'm trying with 2 staff and 1 ball to take a good control of the 1 movements and timing.

501 is another siteswap that make me crazy

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

--Late biosas---
tired to watch videos,let's go juggling in the street.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

Point your toes.

complete patterns with fire

_kaskade

_revesre kaskade

_crossed arms kaskade - side chops

_half shower

_sometimes shower

_sometimes mills mess



complete patterns with UV or daylight

everything above +

_mikes mess

_high up mills mess

_rubensteins revenge



to be honest i mostly perform some of this tricks, it�s very rare that i try to get them ALL into one routine, but wait for play

and even more important i don�t really perfrom all this tricks clean, i can hold them, enough for juggling festivals or cooperate events, but not for big stages..anyway 3 staffs is just fun, fishtales seems to become my serious way of performing

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

Point your toes.

at some point of time



there is a 2 minute vid existing, my replypresent for megs "cowboyfishbop" vid, but david an me want to first perform this stuff live at play, mayebe uberparis, and get feedback. maybe release the vid after play, -it�s not really great videoproduction, just a simple skill vid, but we will see about it. maybe we produce a higher quality vid about the topic first.

but come to uber or play to see it live and laugh at us

and antti you anyway wanna come to vienna this summer or autumn, don�t you ?

_told the fishfable to wes peden
_heard gloria gaynors "i will survive" 3 times live allready....in the same 20 min performance!

it's not just a skills video!

You have a costume, a character, cool music that works well with the spinning, and not a bad background. Better than most videos in other words. I would surely like to see a video made of the same stuff with more "not skills" stuff added.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Point your toes.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

show ya soon mynci

Holistic Spinner (I hope)