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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:I thought this was awesome and inspiring, in a weird way.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st..._crucifixion_dc


Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 992
Posted:Reminded me of a song.

"The Bravery of Being Out of Range" by Roger Waters (from pink floyd). Album: Amused to Death. 1992

quote:You have a natural tendancy
To squeeze off a shot
You're good at parties
You wear the right masks
You're old but you still
Like a laugh in the locker room
You can't abide change
You're at home on the range
You opened your suitcase
Behind the old workings
To show off the magnum
You deafened the canyon
A comfort a friend
Only upstaged in the end
By the Uzi machine gun
Does the recoil remind you
Remind you of sex
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
I looked over Jordon and what did I see
Saw a US marine in a pile of debris
I swam in your pools
And lay under your palm trees
I looked in the eyes of the Indian
Who lay on the Federal Building steps
And through the range finder over the hill
I saw the frontline boys popping their pills
Sick of the mess they find
On their desert stage
And the bravery of being out of range
Yeah the question is vexed
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
Hey bartender over here
Two more shots
And two more beers
Sir turn up the TV sound
The war has started on the ground
Just love those laser guided bombs
They're really great
For righting wrongs
You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3,000 miles away
3,000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
We zap and maim
With the bravery of being out of range
We strafe the train
With the bravery of being out of range
We gain terrain
With the bravery of being out of range
With the bravery of being out of range
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
Amazing album if you ever get to listen to it.

The song "Watching TV" on the same album brings a tear to my eye each time I listen to it.


"May your balls always burn"

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Wasian
member
Location: IL, USA
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2003
Total posts: 15
Posted:OK, I respect the idea, but she is stupid. I am totally against the war but what she doesnt understand is we where the ones that where attacked. We are not going to attack unless we are threatened like we are, we are constantly being threatened by them. By some person offering herself to be crusifide or whatever, does not solve the promblums. What are we suppose to do if they attack us, "Oh sorry we cant fight back becasue we had a promise with a women who was murdered so we couldnt attack." Im sorry but that is dumb.

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BlackFireJack
member
Location: Bergen , Norway
Member Since: 16th Dec 2002
Total posts: 167
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Wasian:
We are not going to attack unless we are threatened like we are After the 9/11 yes.....but before that??

Sorry but I remember the 'napalm kids' ....

the award winning picture of a little girl with her brother on her back...

the children in Chile....Cambodia....Afganistan...Iraq....Korea...
Japan....
and on and on and on....

what was the threat then? no foreign bullet ever reach americas ground ....

It might sound like I'm flaming you Wasian....I'm not.....I'm flaming US foreign politics

From someone who havent taken a stand on the Iraq-crisis

Peace


I like Fire.. :)

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poiaholic22
member

Member Since: 22nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 531
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Wasian:

We are not going to attack unless we are threatened like we are, we are constantly being threatened by them. I still am drawing a blank here.When exactly has Saddam threatened us? Don't give me any propaganda or media sensationalism either.

You know I must say I love how everyone sees due cause to attack Iraq and yet North Korea is a far greater threat and is getting more dangerous every day but we can be diplomatic with them.

Has anyone else heard about the proposed U.S. military strategy? Between 2000 and 3000 bombs to be dropped on Baghdad in less than 48 hours. And we accuse Saddam of genocide?

Also the point of the story wasn't about stopping a war by this woman allowing herself to be crucified.She was actually eluding to the fact that G.W. is a coward and has no problem sending American,British,Australian and Iraqi soldiers and Iraqi civilians to their deaths as long as he is 3000 miles away from the action.


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.Morph.
.Morph.

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Location: Lancashire, UK
Member Since: 23rd Mar 2002
Total posts: 669
Posted:Quality lyrics!!



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Astar
member
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.
Member Since: 8th Nov 2002
Total posts: 1591
Posted:I guess I appreciate her ability to play the media to get her point across.

Is she brave? self-sacrificing? No.

She isn't putting anything on the line and she is getting tons of attention. Unless she is really stupid she knows she doesn't have to follow through with her silly proposal to be crucified inplace of aggression agaisnt iraq.


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