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sparrowhawk
newbie

Member Since: 17th Sep 2006
Total posts: 1
Posted:hey hey

ive been looking around for quite awhile, and the only staffs i can find are ones which are used with fire, like with wicks

where are they??? (as in just a plain staff)

.....sorry for sounding really dumb but i you kinda have to when you are starting off wink rolleyes


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drvariety
drvariety

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Location: Mission viejo CA
Member Since: 10th Mar 2006
Total posts: 75
Posted:http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/practice_staff_spinning_stick.html
Has a few, and they glow...
www.Dube.com has a few graphite ones, although not very good for contact. But if you are planning on moving on to fire, it would seem to me both cheaper, and less of a hassle to learn on a fire staff and just not light them, but to each his own.


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entheogen
entheogen

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Location: Berlin
Member Since: 4th Mar 2005
Total posts: 173
Posted:Why not just construct your own? I find it helps to screw something on the ends to simulate the weight of Kevlar.

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TotalEclipse
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Location: Nr Petersfield
Member Since: 26th Aug 2006
Total posts: 120
Posted:I made a fairly heavy contact staff for practice using a 19mm, 153cm long chrome-plated shelving pole from homebase, filling it with 18mm pine dowel and drilling a couple of holes in each end to screw in a large bolt to add weight to the ends. I then capped the ends using some convinient rubber table-leg ends for 19mm pole, which prevents some of the damage all the dropping will doubtless cause...

Whole thing cost about 8. The grip I put on originally was electical tape, which, it turns out, is more slippy than the metal pole bare is. I have still managed to learn steve's with it though, and this'll just make things easier when I have a proper contact staff...

alternatively, if you are starting, saw off a broom handle or something and wrap some bicycle inner tube round the ends. Its very easy to paint a perfect spiral all the way up it as well using spray paint and masking tape, if you want something that looks a bit more funky wink

In general, this'll save you money and make something a bit more personal to you, at any length you wish, or thickness, or weight.


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TheBovrilMonkey
TheBovrilMonkey

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Location: High Wycombe, England
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 2629
Posted:Yup, use a broomstick. They rock.

with tennis balls on the end if you want to be posh.

personally i've never seen a 'practice' staff for sale that i like.


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coleman
coleman

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:you want this:



stick



never seen them before but if i'm not mistaken, the decoration (and the description of the construction) makes me think that they are mushypea steve practice staffs ubblove



i want one myself now but but they seem to be out of stock... ubbcrying





cole. x


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they do porridge."
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TotalEclipse
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Location: Nr Petersfield
Member Since: 26th Aug 2006
Total posts: 120
Posted:they've been out of stock for months as I had my eye on one as a non-fire toy...there was something about the girl who made them going off travelling or something... frown

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:spoke to firetoys:

they are indeed mushypea steve sticks ubblove

steve is back soon (next few weeks) and will (hopefully) be making some more biggrin

definitely worth holding out for imo.


i wonder if he'd make me a black and white one...


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Mr_Joe
Mr_Joe

Part-time genius

Member Since: 27th Aug 2008
Total posts: 59
Posted:I made my own practice staff using the same materials as TotalEclipse. Though I splashed out a little on some fabric tape from a sports shop to use as grip (in a slightly interesting way!). Living in a really old house we still ahve spare lengths of lead piping knocking about in the cellar so it cut some of that up and pinned it into the ends to give it some serious rotating weight, I find it nicer for contact than my 1.3m TePooka fire staff, but I'll probably be looking at getting a 1.5m one soon anyways.

The nicest thing about making a staff is, of course, that it's unique, and you can give it a daft name.

Here's a picture of Sven :P


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shay
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Member Since: 15th Jul 2004
Total posts: 17
Posted:check this out:



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acidchild
acidchild

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Member Since: 3rd Jun 2006
Total posts: 117
Posted:My practice staff is just a broom stick and pipe insulation racers taped on the ends for padding, and a newly added (was electrical tape) inner tube grip. It's all full of dents but it has carecter, and memories.

Too many secerets are locked in side your minds, but your all equal in life, equal in love. your all building castels in the sky dreaming of a better world.

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ElectricBlue
ElectricBlue

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Location: Canberra
Member Since: 11th Feb 2002
Total posts: 810
Posted:Yeah i make my practice staffs like the ones on fire toys with the squshie flower ends.
They are really good beacuse you can tell easly if they brush past you. so you will be able to get use to avoiding them ready for spinning fire.


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poig
poig

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Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
Member Since: 19th Jun 2006
Total posts: 1590
Posted:www.oddballs.co.uk has a few I think although ones with wicks work just as well biggrin

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PyroMonkey
PyroMonkey

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Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney
Member Since: 6th Jan 2005
Total posts: 370
Posted:I gotta say nothing beats a broom stick with tennis racket grip.

Although if you must beat it, you can always steal some glow-in-the-dark tape from your ex'girlfriends dad... wink tongue


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uncleGsif
uncleGsif

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Location: Liverpool
Member Since: 8th Dec 2006
Total posts: 13
Posted:red aluminium broom handle, bike grip tap, and some inner-tubes, cut in half and taped t the ends for wieght (noce and quiet if you drop it too)

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Twisthem488
Twisthem488

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Location: USA
Member Since: 27th Jan 2004
Total posts: 187
Posted:What about the contact staffs with no visible weights. Like the one drew used in the II promo, and Antti Suniala used at EJC 06

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Pinkadelic
Pinkadelic

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Location: On top of a Nipple
Member Since: 21st Dec 2006
Total posts: 70
Posted:Broomstick. doesnt cost a thing.
you can allways find broomsticks on the street, and they rock.
just practice with them.
and if u want it to be nice, light a sticklight, and break it, and drop all of the phenyl ester on the stick wink
sticklighted broomstick, or as i like to call it, Witch`s Broom.
B"r"ooM


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borganique
borganique

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Location: Cornwall
Member Since: 6th Jan 2006
Total posts: 154
Posted:i'm quite into using non weighted staffs, even for contact.
i've been using a towel rail quite a bit recently, its open for mor length sliding maneuvres.
and generally feels purer (and harder)


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Mynci
Mynci

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Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:I was in B&Q last week and I started doing matrix's with a 2 metre length of twisted iron railing ubblol they thought I was nuts,

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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acidchild
acidchild

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Member Since: 3rd Jun 2006
Total posts: 117
Posted:I've always been a fan of broomsticks with metal tude mounted on the ends (adds legnth and weight) then foam pads on the ends. makes an nice heavy stick for learning contact.

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kash
kash

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Member Since: 22nd May 2006
Total posts: 166
Posted: Written by: acidchild


My practice staff is just a broom stick and pipe insulation racers taped on the ends for padding, and a newly added (was electrical tape) inner tube grip. It's all full of dents but it has carecter, and memories.



I kept meaning to make one like this, but then I got lazy and bought one off ebay! It cost under a tenner and it is essentially a broomstick with weights on the end, covered in shiny stuff with a tennis racket grip on. It's better finished that I would have done it and saved me the hassle of sourcing bits and putting them together!


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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Member Since: 1st Aug 2007
Total posts: 2418
Posted:Bah! Would there be staves without wicks out there that could break down? A 3 piece one? The idea of fire twirling has kinda worn off on me and its just about the twirling, but I want something I can easily carry...

I'm not the crafty type, and as such definitely wouldn't attempt to make a sectional staff, perhaps a regular one, but something that could break down is well beyond my abilities.


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Gnor
Gnor

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Location: Perth
Member Since: 31st Mar 2003
Total posts: 5814
Posted:Take the wicks off a fire staff perhaps rolleyes Or simply make covers for the ends.

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Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Member Since: 1st Aug 2007
Total posts: 2418
Posted:I just might have to do that, Gnor, but since I'm going to have to wait til I pick up a new job to get the new staff, anyway, I can potter around and look for precisely what I'm after.


Thanks a bunch for your helpful input! ^_^


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Gnor
Gnor

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Perth
Member Since: 31st Mar 2003
Total posts: 5814
Posted:The advantage of having no wicks is no hassles from air travel and no tempatation to burn them and have smelly sooty staffs. I wonder if you can put weights inside the wood/pipe . Drill a hole and insert it down the staff, that way you get the weight and a smooth lined staff as well.

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Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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willworkforfoodjnr
willworkforfoodjnr

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Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Member Since: 8th Aug 2007
Total posts: 1046
Posted:There was a guy (Merlin?) at Play fest who had glued mmetal inserts in the ends to add weight, it was a truly beautiful staff. Can't see it being all that hard

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squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:Thank you all for the ideas. I have been itching to try out staff twirling for a little while now. I have tons of scrap material laying around, suitable for staff, but Im curious, which would be more appropriate for a beginner: wood or aluminum? (We'll assume the thing will be touching the ground more than my hands)

And also: as a complete novice (with no person to person teacher) would it be smarter to stick with a padded end vs. the smooth line staff that has been discussed?


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Deamon_Llama
Deamon_Llama

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Location: Melbourne
Member Since: 14th Oct 2007
Total posts: 78
Posted:Padding is a must. I just use a heavy wooden broom handle, but I stuck a short section of those pool noodle things on either end. They are in bright colours, which makes it look a bit nicer, but the main thing is you can't really knock yourself out with the ends any more.

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squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:As are elbow pads and a helmet apparently. I have very badly bruised both elbows and my noggin, trying to do angel rolls.

"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:haha i remember those days, out back twirling my broom stick. Ya padding on the ends is good, especially to add weight for contact stuff.

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squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:yeah, I may have to look into foam padding over the whole staff. Worst thing is that I cant practice this in the house like poi. And its starting to get cool outside.

"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

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