"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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And for the record, my entry was filmed from different camera angles, in costume, at an excellent location - only it's still on camera somewhere in Australia
Next year...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Written by: Durbs
OWD - I'd speak to Ben-ja-men about ensuring entries get in. Bloomin' pseudo hippies and their "Yeah I'll edit it and send it off" lies
(Joking! Love you Ben )
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
Getting to the other side
Written by: onewheeldave
Of course, one way to ensure high quality COL is, for those with high level skills, to ensure they get entries in
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Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
Written by: Valura
I would perfer to see some one in a well lit area, spinning technically very well with no camera effects, than someone in a full on costume doing the butterfly on top of the leaning tower of Pisa, with their reflection next to them doing the same thing.
"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"
Getting to the other side
Written by: _Clare_
He also put up with my diva-like tendencies and frantic phonecalls
- Ho Sa -
kisses & peace & love to beautiful madges
*rever le temps le prendre*
"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"
The insults of your enemy are a tribute to your bravery
Written by: mcp
Even if they did, I still don't think they should have entered it on COL. It's still somebody elses routine. What's the point of 'winning' a competition with somebody else's work?
And where did richee's comment go? I loved it. The fire sisters reminded me of the black and white midget minstrels, and I've never even seen that show! Good job!
Written by: Zauberdachs
Er... the rest was a bit like watching people spin at festivals, conventions, clubs etc. Background stuff to be honest. I watch vids to learn and/or be amazed. I've never watched COL before but I had thought that as it was a world wide competitive it'd be really impressive.
ah well...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Love is the law.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: mcp
I might consider contributing, but I'd also have to consider how undignified it would be to be on COL, with such a low standard.
"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"
Written by: linda
I LOVED this video. The bar has been raised sky high. Congratulations to everyone that made it on. I am in awe.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: mcp
OWD: go watch this and then tell me it's not copied: https://www.fieryarts.net/video/FlameOz.wmv
I've made a list of more and longer videos than are in COL and I've not managed to put one in where a routine is copied, or even have I seen one (until COL) where a routine is copied.
AS I said above, I believe it's hard to think a routine isn't stolen, when the footwork, body positions, movement AND spinning are exactly the same.
I think people are comparing COL to the standard of free videos availible over the internet, which despite your inability to watch any of the good ones due to being on dial-up and not wanting to download from you-tube, is much much higher than COL.
I might consider contributing, but I'd also have to consider how undignified it would be to be on COL, with such a low standard.
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I might consider contributing, but I'd also have to consider how undignified it would be to be on COL, with such a low standard.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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As for the other common complaint, that routines are being ripped off; again, wouldn't this be something that any similar compilation would suffer from?
Spinning routines aren't really things that can be copyrighted and i suspect that the matter of whether someone is copying someone elses routine is, to a large extent, a matter of interpretation.
Presumably, to copy a high standard routine requires a high level of ability- isn't it the case that someone with that degree of skill would probably find it easier to simply create their own routine?
Given that spinning consists of a limited range of moves that can be linked in a limited number of ways, combined with the high number of spinners worldwide; is it fair to assume that just because someone creates a vid that, in the opinion of some watchers, is identical to someone elses routine; to conclude that it's necessarily been stolen?
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The main thing I've been reacting to is not the suggestion of plagarism, but mainly the tone it's been expressed in.
I'm reacting to, what seems to me to be, an implied critisism of COL/Malcolm.
At the end of the day, if people do send in copied routines, what do you expect Malcolm/COL to do about it- they can't spend their lives watching thousands of online vids to check for originality.
Fair enough to point out that, in your opinion, plagerism has occurred, but, realistically speaking, is there anything COL can do to deal with it.
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The reason i brought up the issue of other compilations (or lack of them) was simply to suggest that putting together something like COL is a more dificult endeavour than may be supposed.
I guess Matts Sphereculism is the most obvious (the only?) comparision.
Immediately, one difference is the price- it costs almost 3 times as much as COL.
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If I was Malcolm and had spent a lot of time and effort, year after year, some of which were far from trouble-free, putting together these compilations, not for profit, but for the benefit of the spinning community, I think I'd feel a bit gutted by the way the above is expressed.
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I'm reacting to, what seems to me to be, an implied critisism of COL/Malcolm.
Love is the law.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: ado-p
Which bit? Ive tried to express my opinion fairly about the dvd, and I did, in fact my biggest reaction has been to your posts. I can think of no better way of supporting hop than buying (as i do almost everythign fire related) from HOP. I own all the COL dvds and a few more to boot. I can think of no better way to improve it, than by highlighting the ways in which I think it could be improved.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Love is the law.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: onewheeldave
On the plagerism issue- assuming that whole routines have been copied, does anyone have any idea why this would happen?
As I mentioned before, if the routine is of high technical standard, then to copy them move for move, using the exact same body/hand positions, would require a lot of skill and effort- probably more so than simply making up a new routine.
So, if that's the case, I'm wondering why people would copy a routine- any ideas?
"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"