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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

Total posts: 2109
Posted:So, I think I have a stomach ulcer. Haven't been to a doctor yet. I was curious if anyone had any information about how to deal with this with as little doctor interaction as possible. I got no med insurance or anything. How long can ulcers go untreated before they become serious? Im also scheduled to go to Burning Man on Saturday so I wanna make sure I dont get hurt with this thing. I really hope this doesnt limit my fun.

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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Cody
SILVER Member since Sep 2003

Cody

That guy from Reno
Location: Reno, Nevada USA

Total posts: 556
Posted:Ouch, hopefully some of the HOP Docs can post some good info, but here is my 2cents. Try not to stress out too much, eat PH neutral or slightly basic foods. Avoid acidic and or spicy (really basic) foods. Avoid alcohol. Drink plenty of water.

Why do you think it's an ulcer? I assume you havn't sen a doc yet? The pain isn't in your lower stomach area (below your belt) is it.

Take care
Cody


Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada

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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

Total posts: 2109
Posted:I read the symptoms and it sounds exactly like what I got. The pain is high in my stomache... Dull gnarly pain. I dont think Im gonna be able to avoid alcohol too well at Burning Man. Im also gonna need to breathe fire which Im sure wont help at all (Im kinda thinkin that might be how I got it in the first place).

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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Birgit
BRONZE Member since Jan 2005

Birgit

had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
Location: Edinburgh

Total posts: 4145
Posted:there's tons of things that can hurt the stomach, including stress. I would recommend seeing a doctor, but I can see how that's not easy without insurance... don't know enough about the US to even guess at how expensive that would be.

Common sense says: If you insist on not seeing a doctor and/or firebreathing at least give your stomach a rest, eat easy-to-digest stuff and leave out any tobacco and alcohol and make sure you get enough sleep. The fact that you point some of these things out means you know they're problematic, so try and be nice to yourself, cause if you should need a doctor in emergency it's going to be even more expensive!


"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)

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jc_firetricks
BRONZE Member since Dec 2005

jc_firetricks

enthusiast
Location: Brisbane

Total posts: 205
Posted:Hey Icon I get these every now and then.

Make sure you see a doctor.... trust me untreaded they will get ALOT worse then it is now. ... I left mine for 3-4 days thinking it would just go away.

Ended up not being able to sollow or eat anything for about 1 week. Lost ALOT of weight and was quite sick through the duration.

Went to the doctors he gave me some good feeling pills and within 3 days I was back to normal.

Trust me you don't want to put it off that is if you have a stomach ulcer wink


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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

Total posts: 2109
Posted:Yeah... The main problem with this is just that Im going to be spending 10 days in the desert starting 3am Saturday where mass chaos will ensue. After talking with Lightning, Im gonna go get some antacids which will hopefully get me through the next two weeks when I can really get treated.

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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_khan_
SILVER Member since Nov 2004

_khan_

old hand
Location: San Francisco, California, USA

Total posts: 768
Posted:Hey Icon, sorry to hear about this. I just wanted to say that in addition to the advice already posted, really pay attention to how your stomach's feeling when you're out there and don't push too hard. I know you're young and all but still. I like me my whiskey and wine off-playa, but at BM I don't drink at all. So coming from a drinker, it's easy to not drink at BM.

I'm guessing you're doing fire breathing in Conclave or some other performance? I doubt anyone would hold it against you if you didn't do it because of your symptoms. It's not like you don't have other fire skills to offer. I know you probably really want to and don't want to bail and all but if you think breathing fire is what caused it I don't see how doing it some more is a good idea.

I don't want to harsh your buzz or sound like your mommy or anything, but temporary pleasures are really not worth messing up your health. Just be careful. I like you and would hate to see you do long-term damage to yourself.


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~ ani di franco

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Gnor
BRONZE Member since Mar 2003

Gnor

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Perth

Total posts: 5814
Posted:Is firebreathing with a stomach condition worth it?

Many ulcers here are caused by a bacterial infection, H pylori ,and are treatable with a course of antibiotics.

HOPtechno page about ulcers


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Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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newgabe
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali

Total posts: 4030
Posted:Yo've probably already gone to BM.. and I don;t at all mind sounding like your mummy...
You don't have to avoid either alcohol or firebreathing. Just don't do them yourself.


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Cody
SILVER Member since Sep 2003

Cody

That guy from Reno
Location: Reno, Nevada USA

Total posts: 556
Posted:If I remember correctly, that bacteria is always present in your stomach mucosal lining. It is opportunistic, and that opportunity comes from a decrease in blood flow to your stomach. That decrease can come from Stress. Since your probably too young to have other vascular issues that can attribute to a blood flow decrease to your stomach, stress is the main culprit. Antibiotics can do more harm than good sometimes. IMO take the antacids like Lightning told you and do everything you can to reduce your stress and general activities. I know that may be next to impossible heading out to the playa, but you may need a few early nights and some good sleep early in the week as not to ruin the climax. You need to allocate as much of your blood to your stomach so it can heal, exercise and stress focus the blood to your muscles and brain, starving your stomach.

Chill man chill. cool


Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada

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Firetramp


Firetramp

old hand
Location: Binstead, Isle of Wight

Total posts: 896
Posted:I see you've allready spoken to Doc but anyway as I have experience with both (BM and stomach ulcer but not at same time):
First of all: You don't easily get stomach ulcers unless you're very (very) stressed, drink too much alcohol and are above a certain age (at least in your thirties). It's more likely to be a stomach infection but if left untreated, that could lead to a stomach ulcer. As already mentioned above, stay clear from acids. No citrus fruit or their juices. No chewing gum, honest. The chewing causes the stomach to produce acids but if no food comes then the acids start working on the stomach wall!
There is medication to take but you'll need a prescription.

Most importantly: Have a wicked time at BM!!!


Ask a question and be a fool for a minute...don't ask and be a fool your whole life.

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BansheeCat
BRONZE Member since Jul 2005

veteran
Location: lost

Total posts: 1247
Posted:I can recommend safe general herbal and natural remedies, that would be helpful regardless is the source of the pain is ulcer or not- at least temporarily until you can get a solid diagnoses and treatment plan. Most of them are reasonably accessible ... The first off the top of my mind are a tea of slippery elm- for burning man you may need to buy tablets and chew them if making tea is a difficult- and some good heat stable acidophilous bacteria. Chewable deglyzzirided sp? licorice tablets could also be helpful.

If you knew it was an ulcer, there are specific herbal formulations for that, both soothing and antibacterial components along with dietary changes to help rebalance the digestive system.. But I would not begin those until you have a diagnoses.

PM me for details if you want, or go to your local natural health store, and find someone on staff who is qualified to make recommendations. Most stores have at least one or two people with some pretty solid herbal and nutritional education. It is worth asking if you can not afford the usual medical system.

Good luck!Do take care of yourself, ditto what everyone else said re drinking et al!
~A


"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin

Total posts: 3556
Posted:*bump*
i gave birth to an ulcer smile
anyway...they are taking a conservative approach and treating it with prevacid, and not antibiotics because i have no insurance, and can't afford them unless it's necessary
i read a bunch stuff online, some say cayenne is good in tiny doses, or lime juice...everything appears to contradict each other...75% are caused by bacteria, i read, but i have always been "special"
i gag on bananas and cabbage
does anyone have any remedies, i thought chamomile and peppermint teas, seperate...the peppermint is supposed to have some antibacterial properties...
does this include prepackaged teas or just putting leaves in your hot water
help please
is there anything else i could ingest that naturally has antibacterial properties, like cranberry joice
essentially i hurt and don't want to


Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin

Total posts: 3556
Posted:well i guess nevermind frown

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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Firetramp


Firetramp

old hand
Location: Binstead, Isle of Wight

Total posts: 896
Posted:Oh, nobody came to your help. Sorry, only read this now.

Uhm, I'm a bit surprised at the lime juice helping as it's acid. I'd think that would be a nono.

Peppermint tea is always good for stomach aches as is chamomile. Oh, sweety, I hope you get better soon. You've had this for a while now. I know how painful it is. All the best to you hug.


Ask a question and be a fool for a minute...don't ask and be a fool your whole life.

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin

Total posts: 3556
Posted:the prevacid and peppermint tea seems to help, i won't know for another couple of weeks or so if it healed

thank you for hug

today not a good stomach day
*makes some chamomile tea*


Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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Curly_Sue
SILVER Member since Nov 2006

Curly_Sue

laughter is the way to get through life
Location: Inverness

Total posts: 179
Posted:If your pain is off to one side it could be a pendicitis (very serious) I would go and see a doc just to be sure Oh and come over to the UK it won't cost you a thing to see a doc. hehe

I fell down a hill once, got up then fell down it again.

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin

Total posts: 3556
Posted:no it's an ulcer

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

Mr Majestik

coming to a country near you
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear

Total posts: 4693
Posted:hrm, i'm sure i'd have all sorts of useful information in the biology unit im doing at the moment on microbiology, unfortunately its all on the uni site and isnt available to the the public, interesting stuff though.

hope you get better for burning man!


"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin

Total posts: 3556
Posted:doing well enough wink
still hurt a bit now and then
and the bf started at applebees and i can't eat most of the good food
grrr
(i'm so sick of peppermint tea)
burning man! are you paying smile bounce


Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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