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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:yay! A thread on Anti-Spin weaves!

So I was just thinking about them. Simian can probably think better about them, but I was bored so I posted this.

(I think) the default anti-spin weave is the anti-spinised equivalent of doing constantly translated isolations. ie: you're just isolating in one direction in front of you, doing the normal one bit iso, and constantly translating the staffs. (changing the ends that are 'together')

Sometimes my anti-spin weave has a few extra beats in it, as if you were folding the staffs under your arms in the 'non-anti-spin' version of the weave.

So after a comment by ben, I thought about the other obvious variations on anti-spinning isolations:

Anti-spinning the 'giant' staff created by the isolation. (very difficult, unless you have small sticks / huge arms.)

Anti-spinning just one of the staffs and getting the other to follow it. (Kinda weird feeling, not sure if it's visually effective yet.)

Moving the center of the isolation in a circle and anti-spinning on that.

Anti-spinning both of them and just having a quarter / half rotation of isolation in the 'middle' of the movement.

oh wait, I think the caffiene just ran out.

Questions: What about butterfly?


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:ima: What have I done? Indeed.



doing things is gay. So is practising. Making animations is cool.


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


entheogen
entheogen

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Location: Berlin
Member Since: 4th Mar 2005
Total posts: 173
Posted:MCP you rock!

Are all those patterns actually fully worked out or are they just in theory? I definitely recognise a number of them from previous labs, but a couple of the doubles patterns in the middle are beyond me how they actually function.


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mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:maybe I will write a transcript for the video... in a little bit.

It has made me realise how much the body adds to a move. Snaked up and bth and btb anti-spin bfly should all look the same if done cleanly, if you consider just the path of the sticks... but add a body in there and it becomes hella interesting to see the differences... biggrin


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:I'll comment as soon as my eyes re-adjust to the vibratory synchronisation of this dimensional reality... peace ubbloco peace

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anti_fin
anti_fin

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Member Since: 3rd Oct 2006
Total posts: 43
Posted:Atomics are very cool ben-ja-men,

can you do them in a constant circle somehow?
i'm not with my staves at the moment all i got is sock poi, mocking me at such a crucial time.


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S3KnoT
S3KnoT

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Location: Brisbane
Member Since: 5th Oct 2005
Total posts: 204
Posted:Hey all, nice vids and stuff.

Fin, dude, your staff is insane now, i like it. Will be cool to come jam with you when im back in adelaide again. Although my staff-ness is severely lacking at the moment in favour of poi. Although im not sure if you can call what im doing just poi. Will fill you in later! Keep up the good work guys!

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anti_fin
anti_fin

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Posted:so i wanted to do another video. but my camera is still shotty, so avoiding this, i made an animation.

making animations of the movements, really allows you to understand what you are doing alot better and it seems to be all the rage these days. Its a quarter beat antispin thing.

enjoy




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mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Nice, I like the 3D body.

MAKE MORE! MOOORRRRREEEEEEE!!!!!!!! hug


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


coleman
coleman

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Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
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Posted:very cool anti_fin cool

(just in case you hadn't noticed, there is one bit where the hand moved to the end of the purple stick from the centre and then back again)


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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anti_fin
anti_fin

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Posted:"just in case you hadn't noticed, there is one bit where the hand moved to the end of the purple stick from the centre and then back again"

If you look closer, it does that like 10 times. i made the mistake of animating the staves first, and then i had to deal with the perfect planes that i set up for myself with the imperfect human body. Next time im doing them together and spreading the deficiencies between both.


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meast
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Location: paris
Member Since: 28th Nov 2005
Total posts: 38
Posted:






eek ubbloco it's sublime...



strugz
strugz

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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:ubblove

meast you must be bored of new years in france wink

go on go on go on


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anti_fin
anti_fin

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Posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1en9jZd5zI
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thats it.

now i really have to do some study.


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coleman
coleman

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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Total posts: 7330
Posted:that's pretty mental biggrin

good luck with the study hug


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted: Written by: strugz


ubblove




Very pretty Meast! ubblove

Oh yeah, the animation was eye-catching and informative too... rolleyes


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anti_fin
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Posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDhQ0thbVVE


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imakokode
imakokode

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Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 121
Posted:Hi, I have at least finished to edit the text I wrote last September about the concept of "implicits isolations" biggrin and here is the translation in english :

>> imakokode.org/PlanetsInHands.doc <<

You'll find thory about classical and implicit isolations mostly for contact ball and palm spinning, but also a very good Video with Pich performance on acrylic balls in antispin.

Hope you wont be to affected by the spiritual approch of some concept but I'm not that good at math wink this are just some thoughts, feelings and ideas, hope you'll like it smile


This more, for those who didn't read it yet, the basic theory of antispin for Staff and Poi :

>> imakokode.org/Antispinenglish.doc <<

hope the format .doc is ok for you smile


>> all is full of love <<


mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:DA BUMP!

funnnnnnny thread...


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:The 'Antispin english' document is still present on the server

and point some nice technical aspects of antispin.



Antispinenglish.doc



enjoy,



:R


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Pogo69
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Location: limbo
Member Since: 6th Apr 2006
Total posts: 3764
Posted:I've only just started playing with antispin, isolations & doubles, so I have nothing particularly intelligent to add at this point.

just wanted to give props to a thread, that stretches my brain to breaking point... but in a good way.


--pogo (pat) [forever and always]


LazyAngel
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Location: Cambridge UK
Member Since: 29th Jul 2004
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Posted:just an idea, about creating lateral shapes spinning staffs (i.e triangle/square antispin)

is this true or am I mistaken:

given no handwraps/fingerspinning:

in order to create the shape in wallplane you need x linear isolations + [(x-1) for odd numbered or x for even numbered lateral shapes] antispun turns (these are not full turns, just moving the staff enough to create the next 'side' of the shape)


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