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Login/Join to ParticipatePLATINUM Member since May 2003
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So I was just thinking about them. Simian can probably think better about them, but I was bored so I posted this.
(I think) the default anti-spin weave is the anti-spinised equivalent of doing constantly translated isolations. ie: you're just isolating in one direction in front of you, doing the normal one bit iso, and constantly translating the staffs. (changing the ends that are 'together')
Sometimes my anti-spin weave has a few extra beats in it, as if you were folding the staffs under your arms in the 'non-anti-spin' version of the weave.
So after a comment by ben, I thought about the other obvious variations on anti-spinning isolations:
Anti-spinning the 'giant' staff created by the isolation. (very difficult, unless you have small sticks / huge arms.)
Anti-spinning just one of the staffs and getting the other to follow it. (Kinda weird feeling, not sure if it's visually effective yet.)
Moving the center of the isolation in a circle and anti-spinning on that.
Anti-spinning both of them and just having a quarter / half rotation of isolation in the 'middle' of the movement.
oh wait, I think the caffiene just ran out.
Questions: What about butterfly?
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doing things is gay. So is practising. Making animations is cool.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Are all those patterns actually fully worked out or are they just in theory? I definitely recognise a number of them from previous labs, but a couple of the doubles patterns in the middle are beyond me how they actually function.
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It has made me realise how much the body adds to a move. Snaked up and bth and btb anti-spin bfly should all look the same if done cleanly, if you consider just the path of the sticks... but add a body in there and it becomes hella interesting to see the differences...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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can you do them in a constant circle somehow?
i'm not with my staves at the moment all i got is sock poi, mocking me at such a crucial time.
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Fin, dude, your staff is insane now, i like it. Will be cool to come jam with you when im back in adelaide again. Although my staff-ness is severely lacking at the moment in favour of poi. Although im not sure if you can call what im doing just poi. Will fill you in later! Keep up the good work guys!
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making animations of the movements, really allows you to understand what you are doing alot better and it seems to be all the rage these days. Its a quarter beat antispin thing.
enjoy
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DeletePLATINUM Member since May 2003
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MAKE MORE! MOOORRRRREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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(just in case you hadn't noticed, there is one bit where the hand moved to the end of the purple stick from the centre and then back again)
cole. x
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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If you look closer, it does that like 10 times. i made the mistake of animating the staves first, and then i had to deal with the perfect planes that i set up for myself with the imperfect human body. Next time im doing them together and spreading the deficiencies between both.
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meast you must be bored of new years in france
go on go on go on
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thats it.
now i really have to do some study.
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good luck with the study
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Very pretty Meast!
Oh yeah, the animation was eye-catching and informative too...
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and here is the translation in english :>> imakokode.org/PlanetsInHands.doc <<
You'll find thory about classical and implicit isolations mostly for contact ball and palm spinning, but also a very good Video with Pich performance on acrylic balls in antispin.
Hope you wont be to affected by the spiritual approch of some concept but I'm not that good at math
this are just some thoughts, feelings and ideas, hope you'll like it 
This more, for those who didn't read it yet, the basic theory of antispin for Staff and Poi :
>> imakokode.org/Antispinenglish.doc <<
hope the format .doc is ok for you
>> all is full of love <<
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funnnnnnny thread...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
and point some nice technical aspects of antispin.
Antispinenglish.doc
enjoy,
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just wanted to give props to a thread, that stretches my brain to breaking point... but in a good way.
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is this true or am I mistaken:
given no handwraps/fingerspinning:
in order to create the shape in wallplane you need x linear isolations + [(x-1) for odd numbered or x for even numbered lateral shapes] antispun turns (these are not full turns, just moving the staff enough to create the next 'side' of the shape)
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