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D.B.
X x X x X
Ship off the starboard! sound general quarters! noise and light discipline! man the cannons! GET ME THE RUM!
Master of the Free Hug Program
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Love is the law.
Written by: The_Pirate_Dyke_Boy
What pisses me off most is that its so convienient for people to forget that israeli citizens are attacked and killed also.
People seem to think that Israel is just a big monster that is just trying to kill arabs just because it can.
No one remembers the Israeli war of independance, which started all of this. Israel was attacked by no less than 5 countries. and from that the israelis took over what was palestine. Just as the Arabs tried to do to them. And no one remembers Egypt and Transjordan closing its borders to palestinian refugees.
Just as no one seems to remember the kidnapped soldiers or the fact that lebanon did next to nothing to stop hizbollah setting up their defences in the south (the lebanese army were in the north). And no one remembers the report of HIzbollah setting up a rocket launcher right next to a school. (i cant find it right now, im running out of time)
All im saying is its easy for people to forget truths just so they can attack Israel and then the US. If the Israelis learnt anyhting, its to kill their enemies before they get killed. what would you do if rockets started landing in your country from next door?
and dont give me the "proportionate response" crap. Fighting war as anything less than total commitment will always lead to failure (Vietnam, Iraq).
I mourn the loss of any human soul, but to stand by while your country is attacked is suicide. I just wish people would remember that Israelis are human too.
(sorry for the rant, but im so tired of defending Israel to people who know nothing about it, not that im saying thats any of you, obviously not. And yes, i am Jewish)
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No one remembers the Israeli war of independance, which started all of this.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
D.B.
X x X x X
Ship off the starboard! sound general quarters! noise and light discipline! man the cannons! GET ME THE RUM!
Master of the Free Hug Program
D.B.
X x X x X
Ship off the starboard! sound general quarters! noise and light discipline! man the cannons! GET ME THE RUM!
Master of the Free Hug Program
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: Gremlin_Lou
This isn't israel's fault.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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What should Israel do?
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: Doc Lightning
So, Dave...
What should Israel do?
Written by: Doc Lightning
So, Dave...
What should Israel do?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: NYC
Is this the "Lets see if we can drive Lightning insane" thread?
Jeff, you're usually on the ball but this entire thread has been Mike BEGGING people for solutions and everyone saying "Israel should just make the terrorists stop without hurting anyone or anything else" as if there's some "Make the terrorists stop without hurting everyone else" button that Israel isn't pushing because they're having more fun pushing the "Kill People" button.
I'm not going to get into this argument specifically but I think it's really unfair to Mike to keep saying vague comments like "Don't Kill People." Anybody who thinks that Israel is just killing people for fun is severely oversimplifying the situation to the point of disrespecting a serious discussion.
It's unfair to Mike, My Poor Little Jew Friend.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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But we should try to be more discerning, instead of repeating the same old mantra: Israel is the only one to blame in this conflict, Israel is the only one to blame...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
Written by: onewheeldave
IMO, what Israel should do is stop targetting of innocent civilians.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: onewheeldave
IMO, what Israel should do is stop targetting of innocent civilians.
Right. I get that. Then you went on into a rather verbose thread to say "stop targeting innocent civilians."
Ok. Moving past that...
What should Israel do? Sit there and do nothing?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Doc Lightning
What should Israel do? Sit there and do nothing?
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: onewheeldave
To me, attacking innocent civilians is wrong and, the fact that Isreals civilians have been atacked does not, IMO, in this scenario, justify then doing the same back.
Last night on TV was a report on the recent incident where several hundred palestinians encircled, and climbed on a house that Israeli military had targeted for bombing.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: onewheeldave
*Israel should continue to defend itself, when that defence does not include targetting innocent civilians
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: NYC
I also don't see how hitting people that are acting as human shields for terrorists is 'targeting' them.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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