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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Love, Love, Love...
Written by: stone
You miss an important point,. Terrorists are a response to Israel, and Israel’s behaviour to its neighbours. You have to remove Israel to remove the terrorists.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Written by: Doc Lightning
Actually, I only recall you mentioning prisoner exchange, which basically sends a message that Israel is willing to negotiate with terrorists. Not a good policy.
Written by: Doc Lightning
Unfortunately, thanks to people like you, they also learned that it gathers public opinion in their favor.
Written by: FireTom
Can't quite agree with you: Jeff. They demanded about a thousand prisoners to be released - if my memory is correct...
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: jeff(fake)
I hold Hezbollah in the highest contempt, equal to Israeli military policy. I condemn then both as barbaric and moronic.
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However, thanks to Israel's current actions, Hezbollah's next recruiting drive will be their most successful ever. Like Bloody Sunday and the IRA, Israel have given Hezbollah and international terrorism anouther decade of vitality.
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Look at Northern Ireland, look at Afghanastan, Iraq. War doesn't stop terrorists, it creates them, and kills thousands of people in the process. This ceasefire is a good start, and shows that at least the UN will listen to reason occassionaly.
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It's not I'm afraid. At the time of the kidnap Israel had a grand total of four Lebanese nationals in captivity, of which Hezbollah demanded the release of three.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Stone
Thanks for agreeing with me dream.
Written by: Stone
I think you have milked the Auschwitz and Belsen examples for as long as possible. Perhaps, you could ask what it is that the Jews are doing, that causes all this animosity towards them.
Written by: Stone
..."Why do the Jews keep getting caught in holocausts?"
Now it may seem unfair to ask this question given the Nazi holocaust, but when history keeps repeating itself, there may be another explanation. I know some of the reasons I learn at school. But I'd like to know more - “Who are the Jew being that gets everybody offside with them? And what could they do, or who would they have to be to bring peace back to the world?"
And don't go saying it's not our fault, and blaming others. Because clearly it is Israel’s fault...
Written by: Patriarch917
1. They poisoned the wells and caused the black plague.
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2. They sacrifice Muslim children and drink their blood during Passover Seders.
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3. They control the media.
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4. They control the world banks, and start wars so they can lend money at interest to governments.
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5. They invented a fake “holocaust” and have brainwashed us all into thinking that the Nazis killed them. And they still try to milk it.[/quote
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6. They blew up the world trade center and framed it so it looked like Muslims did it, so they could make us take out Iraq.[/quote
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7. They rigged the elections to make Bush win.[/quote
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8. They invented AIDS, a disease which they are virtually immune to because of [url=https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8715260/
circumcision.[/url]
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Now that we’ve answered that question, perhaps we can figure out what women are doing to cause themselves to get raped.
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-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Stone
Perhaps, you could ask what it is that the Jews are doing, that causes all this animosity towards them.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: NYC
I wonder how this conversation would be different if there was a larger Jewish population in the UK. I know there are many Brits that haven't even MET a Jew.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: jeff(fake)
I hold Hezbollah in the highest contempt, equal to Israeli military policy. I condemn then both as barbaric and moronic.
See, this opinion continues to mystify me. Let's review this:
Israel: rockets come flying out of civilian targets and land on civilian targets. Israel is given no choice but to attack the source of the rockets. In the process they regrettably cause civilian casualities.
Hezbollah: without provocation fires rockets at civilian targets. When offered military targets, they continue to fire on civilian targets, in spite of the fact that no attacks are originating in the civilian targets. Furthermore, they round up civilians at gunpoint and use them as a shield.
I wonder how one rationally, ethically, or morally calls these two tactics equivalent.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: Doc Lightning
See, this opinion continues to mystify me. Let's review this:
Israel: rockets come flying out of civilian targets and land on civilian targets. Israel is given no choice but to attack the source of the rockets. In the process they regrettably cause civilian casualities.
Hezbollah: without provocation fires rockets at civilian targets. When offered military targets, they continue to fire on civilian targets, in spite of the fact that no attacks are originating in the civilian targets. Furthermore, they round up civilians at gunpoint and use them as a shield.
I wonder how one rationally, ethically, or morally calls these two tactics equivalent.
Written by: Yell fire!
Ah, but it is so easy to look at the same situation and read it very differently.
Since military service is compulsory in Israel, technically ALL adult Israelis (except for the handful in jail for refusing to join the army) are genuine military targets, not civilians. What's worse is that these adult Israelis (i.e., military personnel who would eventually be called on to attack Lebanon if the need arose), 'round up' civilians (Israeli children who have not done military service), and hide behind them, using them as a shield.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: jeff(fake)
I guess Doc, because in the grand scheme of things, I don't give a rat's ass about international motives, nationality, and all the other debris that the human mind throws up to justify murder on a massive scale.
I guess it's a bit like Mohandas Ghandi wrote:
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
Actually, read the Geneva Convention. It spells out very clearly what is and what isn't "Military."
Written by: Yell fire!
So why exactly should I read the Geneva Convention? Because it is constantly violated by the Israelis?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: jeff(fake)
I guess Doc, because in the grand scheme of things, I don't give a rat's ass about international motives, nationality, and all the other debris that the human mind throws up to justify murder on a massive scale.
I guess it's a bit like Mohandas Ghandi wrote:
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
I see. Well tell you what. Next time someone starts to hit you, don't defend yourself. Don't even raise an arm to protect your face. Instead, ask them nicely to stop. Give them all your money. When they don't stop then ask them nicely again. Can't hit them, according to your view, because all acts of violence are equal, no matter the motive. Even self-defense.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: Yell fire!
So why exactly should I read the Geneva Convention? Because it is constantly violated by the Israelis?
You haven't read it? Go read it. Then come back and show me willful violations by Israel where they had a reasonable alternative.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: Doc Lightning
You haven't read it? Go read it. Then come back and show me willful violations by Israel where they had a reasonable alternative.
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: jeff(fake)
I would have thought that you would get my philosophy even vaguely right, Doc, rather than forming strawmen . I have never espoused pacifism. My point has always been that the actions by Israel in Lebanon were unneccasery, counter-productive to the security of Israel, and excessively destructive.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Yell fire!
her you yourself haven't read the Fourth Geneva Convention or you are blatently biased in favour of Israel. The construction of settlements on occupied land is a clear violation of the Convention. So please explain to me why Israel in this particular case did not have a 'reasonable alternative' as you put it. Or perhaps you think this wasn't a 'willful' violation? Did god make them do it?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Stone
Ok, Patriarch and NYC. How about you try and answer the question instead of coming up with “red herrings”.
So, what are you doing to bring all this animosity towards you? You can’t keep blaming everyone else, like you are currently doing.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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