the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: Patriarch917
When I read OWD suggestion that the Jews should be removed from Israel, I thought of how the president of Iran (who arms and supports Hezbollah) suggested the same thing. Is the best solution we can come up with simply to join the enemies of Israel in their mission to drive away the Jews?
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Back to my point. Making the Jews leave Israel would seem to suggest that they are the ones causing the problem.
Written by: Patriarch917
Who can we call the “criminal” in this situation. Given the choice between removing the Jews, and removing their enemies, which shall we relocate?
I think it may be helpful to try to determine which party is more likely to live peacefully in the absence of the other, and which is more likely to seek out new victims.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: andrealee
If you did, why repeat yourself again? I said bluntly I did not know, and suggested bringing in information from other people who may have some well founded practical approaches-- people who work or study that field.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: andrealee
cute gremilin though
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
Written by: Doc Lightning
This is an Israeli soldier, or the whole IDF? And the ruling of a British court is absolute fact?
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: FireTom
@ all: What would you suggest to be the best solution to this conflict - apart from relocating the Israeli nation? What if you'd have the power to do something?
Written by: andrealee
Doc, I can get how you might have misunderstood. But I meant that we should try that, in terms of developing our discussion, not as a reference to anything Isreal has/has not tried or considered.
Sometimes taking a well- defined perspective/suggestion/solution and critiquing it is a good way to begin explore an idea. Then one can extrapolate from it into new possibilities, rather than just pulling narrow opinions from a hat or a newspaper. The process sometimes leads to enough understanding of the background, and issues involved , that someone may then more confidently venture out with a new idea of their own ...perhaps one more strongly based in the realities of a given situation.
Hope that is clear now.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
When Germany bombed England (and yes, the analogy is fair), England fought back. Lebanon bombed Israel and Israel is fighting back.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: FireTom
Yellfire, in my eyes this was the most constructive post... Not condescending, dude I agree with what you propose - on top of this I reckon there is need for an European peacekeeping force RIGHT NOW to put a buffer between Arabs and Israelis.
Written by: FireTom
Relocating Israel is not practical - it has been mentioned a few times before. Not only the people living in Israel, also the (orthodox) Jews living outside Israel would strongly oppose this...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: FireTom
Support for the (re)development of Palestine/ Lebanon housing and infrastructure, health and educational system by Israel, the US, Europe AND the surrounding arab nations.
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I reckon this would be the way to go. As with Jerusalem, it has to belong to Israel as ONE.
What you think?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: andrealee
Mike, if you think I speak in circles it is because you keep saying the same thing repeatedly, sometimes in capitals with cute gremlins,but without any development of the concept. And I keep responding consistently, in the same manner, because nothing you say has changed any of my perspective.So it goes. Dull though, isn't it.
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I would agree with others that a powerful international military force should be put in place immediately within a significant buffer zone, and they should forcefully ensure that humanitarian aid can reach the area and help the citizens. Immediate ceasefire agreement, with severe consequences from the International community if anyone violates it on either side.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Dragon7
Ie Lightning is Jewish (i think) and also American. American (Govt) supports Israel (even sitting on your hands doing nothing is ACTION imo) Many Americans are christians (related to jews) so also have a loyalty to Israel.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: NYC
And I'm CERTAIN that England never bombed cities with civilians in them. That would have been rude.
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There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: jeff(fake)
In any case the Isreali argument for war look very dubious to me. A far greater number of people have died (somewhere around a thousand now) as a result than would have done if peaceful resolutions were persued.
AAAARRGH!!!!
I swear to god the next person who brings up this bullhonkey about "peaceful alternatives" without ACTUALLY SUGGESTING WHAT FEASABLE PEACEFUL ALTERNATIVES THERE MIGHT BE...
Have you been READING the thread, Jeff?
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
1. Isreal withdraws immeadiately from Lebanon, requests an international peacekeeping force to stop Hezbola rockets. (assuming that they don't cease if Isreal withdraws, which seeing as they started being launched in bulk in retaliation to airstrikes they may well do)
2. Attempt diplomacy with those involved.
3. Apologize to everyone for being ass heads.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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Good point there Stone..What does God really think about this?
As an atheist I've always suspected that God uses war to mediate disputes and this action we're discussing here might just be part of God's plan. If so, then who are we to intervene?
A U.N. peacekeeping force might piss him off even more
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'Time goes by so slowly for those who wait...' - Whatever Happend To Baby Madonna?
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