"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simian
i reckon that all this digital media stuff means that skills and styles spread far more quickly, which is nice. But that means that manipulation in general starts too look a lot more samey and homogenous, which isn't so nice...
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Written by: ickleMatt
What will be the affect of the increased availablity of digital media on the performance arts?
When you can see 'anything' on video with the click of a button, the viewing itself becomes devalued. This devaluing of the recorded experience increases the value of witnessing a live performance. This phenomenon has already been experienced in the music industry where widespread copying and downloading has come with increased numbers of people at live music events. In this digital recorded world we are starting to rediscover the value of the live performance.
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Increased interest will be especially of art forms which are either perceived to be new - such as 'spinning', or recent technology has changed the form of the art dramatically
Written by: Walter Benjamin
What withers in the mechanical age of reproduction is the aura of the work of art
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.
Written by: dream
what you give is an approximation of what a lot of live art practitioners say about the importance of their work. However despite grandiose claims about shattering the simularca of our postmodern image world, interjecting the immediacy and physicality of a concrete material existence into everyday life and reigniting material struggles against Baudrillardian claims of the collapse of the real, Live Art is seen by the general public as a pretentious pile of crap. While it takes 'new' and 'experimental' forms these are rarely of any interest to people whose cultural tastes stretch as far as football, pop idol and big brother. Sad (I quite like some live art, and hate pop idol & big brother...) but true.
Written by: icklematt
Jesus talk about looking down your nose at the smelly masses
Written by: icklematt
New and experimental are only equated with pretensious only when the person describing it as such have something to gain from dismissing it.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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Written by: newagebastard
Hmmm... Interesting idea, the more available something is the better it becomes as it is forced to compete for attention with everything else.
Market forces make you a better poi spinner.
I don't really buy it. While it will have the bonus of raising the profile of previously unknown sports. It will do so at a level below the main stream. This as already happened with activities called extreme sports or alternative. The effect can be that while more people become aware of what we do. Which is cool they become aware of it as an alternative to a real sport or activity. Which degrades the perception of what we do.
(WE do it because we are compelled to the smell of paraffin the feeling of heat orbiting you. That wobbly moment when it might go wrong and you get burnt. Or you pull off a really cool trick and feel awesome.)
However the idea of it becoming alternative is simple it becomes a second class activity to the mainstream interests. And everyone knows it because they it is called an alternative sport/activity.
That is what i think.
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"what withers in the age of digital age of reproduction?"
The now - the moment of creation.
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Written by: dream
secondly i like football. which doesn't involve the viewer... I watch England lose on Saturady but my viewing had no impact on the game.
Written by: icklematt
New and experimental are only equated with pretensious only when the person describing it as such have something to gain from dismissing it.
Written by: dream
what do most people have to gain by describing live art as pretentious???
Written by: dream
what specifically do i have to gain by describing certain types of art which i personally enjoy as pretentious???
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"what withers in the age of digital age of reproduction?"
The now - the moment of creation.
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uh... i'm not sure when this quote first popped up or who made it, but i was going to ask why the question isn't about the digital age of creation, although it occured to me that you used the word reproduction... since that word has another meaning which basically means the creation of new lifeforms, then in fact the answer should be that nothing withers at all, because it's about creating new things...
Written by: matt (little)
Calling something pretentious means that you think it has less value than it claims to.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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"what withers in the age of digital age of reproduction?"
The now - the moment of creation.
The quote was regarding the pervay of art. Art takes over where the digital media reproduction (ie the digital recording) can't. My answer suggests that when everything is being recording the only thing missing is the moment of creation (this moment of creation could be the creation of the video itself).
The moment of creation has value. The question is how can we use technology to enhance this value?
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if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
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"what withers in the age of digital age of reproduction?"
Written by: Walter Benjamin
Mechanical reproduction of art changes the reaction of the masses toward art. The reactionary attitude toward a Picasso painting changes into the progressive reaction toward a Chaplin movie. The progressive reaction is characterized by the direct, intimate fusion of visual and emotional enjoyment with the orientation of the expert. Such fusion is of great social significance. The greater the decrease in the social significance of an art form, the sharper the distinction between criticism and enjoyment by the public. The conventional is uncritically enjoyed, and the truly new is criticized with aversion.
Written by: Brian Eno interviewed by Kevin Kelly, in Wired 3.05, May 1995
In a blinding flash of inspiration, the other day I realized that "interactive" anything is the wrong word. Interactive makes you imagine people sitting with their hands on controls, some kind of gamelike thing. The right word is "unfinished." Think of cultural products, or art works, or the people who use them even, as being unfinished. Permanently unfinished. We come from a cultural heritage that says things have a "nature," and that this nature is fixed and describable. We find more and more that this idea is unsupportable - the "nature" of something is not by any means singular, and depends on where and when you find it, and what you want it for...Finishing implies interactive: your job is to complete something for that moment in time.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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some ideas towards answers that i might give towards what withers in the digial age of reproduction.... embodiment, mass, temporality, the incommensurable opposition between artist and audience and the notion of completion.
Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006
if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
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