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_pOp_
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Posted:hello everybody, this is the new and improved first post of this thread. the original first post you can find somewhereon page two.

if you don't know anything about linux yet, read the linux Wiki for the basics.



if you are thinking of trying Linux, you might consider "(K)Ubuntu". it's the distro I'm using and it's supposed to be relatively easy to switch to from Windows. it's a 'Debian' based Linux system and it comes in 2 main flavours: Ubuntu and Kubuntu. the difference between the two is the Desktop Manager. Ubuntu uses "Gnome", Kubuntu uses "KDE". which uses more eye-candy, so is more windows like. for this reason I chose Kubuntu, to make the switch easier. read about (K)Ubuntu here



CONS TO USING LINUX: not all hardware (like printers) have drivers for Linux. But for most things, the community comes up with their own drivers. Check http://linuxprinting.org
for a list compatible printers.



almost anything you want to know you can find in the Ubuntu guide, but here is the easiest way I can think of to get Kubuntu running smoothly from scratch without reading the whole guide:



-INSTALLING KUBUNTU-



to install Kubuntu, I present to you the 5 step plan.

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step 1: download a version of Kubuntu here. this will give you a LIVE CD. a live cd is the whole operating sustem running from just the CD, you don't need a hard-drive for this. this might come in handy when you are trying to rescue other systems.

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step 2: burn the .iso image onto a CD and make sure you have some free, unpartitioned space on your computer (7GB or more is preferred)

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step 3: boot from CD and run Kubuntu. click on the Install button on your desktop and it will start.

the installer is quite self-explanatory, but when you get to the partitioner you need to know the following:

you need to create 2 partitions: a SWAP partition (called swap, sized: 1-2 GB) and a root partition (called / , sized 6 GB and up).

after this, the basic system is installed.

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step 4: installing some handy programs through the console

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start Kubuntu.

click the blue K logo, bottom left of the screen, which will open your program-list.

from the list select: System > Konsole

in this console type step by step, followed by 'enter':

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sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup



sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list


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this will open a text editor with a long file, replace that file with this blue one and click 'safe': close file.





deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy main restricted universe multiverse

deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy main restricted universe multiverse



deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse



## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse

deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse



## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse

deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse



## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse



## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)

deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf
edgy-plf free non-free

deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf
edgy-plf free non-free



## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu

## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera, DesktopSecure and more to come.)

deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
edgy-commercial main



## Listen

#deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/
edgy listen



## Automatix repo

deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt
edgy main



#AUTOMATIX REPOS START



deb http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt
dapper main



deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
dapper-commercial main



deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse

#AUTOMATIX REPOS END





go back to Konsole type step by step, followed by 'enter':

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sudo apt-get update



sudo apt-get install synaptic gedit


.

after this you can install any program you like through the just installed synaptic.

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step 5: tweaking:

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now we are going to use a program called automatix to install all the non-free formats like mp3 and flash:

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open synaptic: K-menu > System > Synaptic Package Manager and install automatix2.

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open Automatix2 K-menu > System > Automatix and install all you need





anything else you need to install you can find in the synaptic program, in the K menu.



anything more you need to do to have things work, you can find in the Ubuntu Edgy Guide



if questions are still unanswered, or if you run into any problem, the very helpful Ubuntu Forums are there to help. any problem you can have, has been met and solved by somebody else before you...



that's it.



here are all the links I used:



http://www.kubuntu.org/
br>
http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
br>
http://www.linuxprinting.org
br>
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
br>
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
br>
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php

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Posted:*bump*



Also, those looking into Linux, read this ubbrollsmile



Secondly, HTF do I make a module?

Im trying to install my wireless PCMCIA card, and I have been here , and done everything they said, but upon

"cd acx-20060215

wget http://acx100.erley.org/acx-20060215.tar.bz2
br>
tar xjvf acx-20060215.tar.bz2"

I have had to download the file as im at work at the moment and I cant get internet access. I assume wget means webget. So I tried lget (localget) but it come back saying "Unsupported scheme"



What do I do? shrug

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Posted:This is a useful link.

ubbrollsmile


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_pOp_
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Posted: Written by: UmbiliciformCraterOnFace


Secondly, HTF do I make a module?
What do I do? shrug



I'll get back on that soon, see if I can help, but first I have the old first post here, since I'm making a new one because of the upgrade.


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_pOp_
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Posted:ok, here is the full first post, all the embedded links might be missing, but that should be alright since the new first post will be there soon..

 Written by: _pOp_


ok, I did a durbs and really only found one other threads on Linux: (very basic) LINUX questions.
this thread is a bit outdated, since it was written in 2003 and a lot has changed since then. It's not as negative as portrayed in that thread. so I want to give you my 2 cents about linux. I've been using it for almost 2 years now, and won't turn back.

if you don't know anything about linux yet, read the linux Wiki for the basics.

if you are thinking of trying Linux, you might consider "(K)Ubuntu". it's the distro I'm using and it's supposed to be relatively easy to switch to from Windows. it's a 'Debian' based Linux system and it comes in 2 main flavours: Ubuntu and Kubuntu. the difference between the two is the Desktop Manager. Ubuntu uses "Gnome", Kubuntu uses "KDE". which uses more eye-candy, so is more windows like. for this reason I chose Kubuntu, to make the switch easier.

read about (K)Ubuntu here

CONS TO USING LINUX: not all hardware (like printers) have drivers for Linux. But for most things, the community comes up with their own drivers. Check http://linuxprinting.org
for a list compatible printers.

almost anything you want to know you can find in the Ubuntu guide, but here is the easiest way I can think of to get Kubuntu running smoothly from scratch without reading the whole guide:

-INSTALLING KUBUNTU-

to install Kubuntu, I present to you the 5 step plan which I'll add at the end of this post.

because Linux is an open source platform, they are opposed to using software you need to pay for, even for much used things like the mp3 format of flash in internet sites. these things are NOT installed by default, but easy installable by "step 5".

anything else you need to install you can find in the synaptic program, in the K menu.

anything more you need to do to have things work, you can find in the Ubuntu Dapper Guide

if questions are still unanswered, or if you run into any problem, the very helpful Ubuntu Forums are there to help. any problem you can have, has been met and solved by somebody else before you...

that's it.

One last remark:
it is NOT easy to switch to Linux. you best only do it if you know a bit about computers or have somebody that already has linux to help you out, and it also helps if you like solving puzzles (like getting your TV-out card to work, or loggin in onto a windows network).

here are all the links I used:

http://www.kubuntu.org/
br>http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
http://www.linuxprinting.org
br>http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/

https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
br>http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php

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step 1: download a version of Kubuntu here.
choose the alternate CD, this is an install only version.
I usually also burn a LIVE CD (desktop CD) for later comfort.
.
step 2: burn the .iso image onto a CD and make sure you have some free, unpartitioned space on your computer (7GB or more is preferred) and boot from above mentioned CD.
.
step 3: boot from CD and install Kubuntu
the installer CD is quite self-explanatory, but when you get to the partitioner you need to know the following: you need to create 2 partitions: a SWAP partition (called swap, sized: 1-2 GB) and a root partition (called / , sized 6 GB and up).
after this, the basic system is installed.
_______________________________________________________________
.
step 4: installing some handy programs through the console
.
start Kubuntu.
click the blue K logo, bottom left of the screen, which will open your program-list.
from the list select: System > Konsole
in this console type step by step, followed by 'enter':
.
sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list

.
this will open a text editor with a long file, replace that file with the one you get from this site and click 'safe': close file.
go back to Konsole type step by step, followed by 'enter':
.
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install synaptic gedit firefox

.
after this you can install any program you like through the just installed synaptic.
___________________________________________________________________
.
step 5: tweaking:
.
now we are going to use a program called easyUbuntu to install all the non-free formats:
.
in Konsole type:
.
wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
br>tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
cd easyubuntu
sudo python easyubuntu.in

.
this will open easyUbuntu and let you install all the formats





that's it!!!

nothing to it.



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