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BAGHDAD, Iraq — Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Al Qaeda in Iraq leader who led a brutal insurgency that included homicide bombings, kidnappings and beheadings, was killed in an airstrike on a building north of Baghdad, U.S. and Iraqi officials announced Thursday.
The man whose been responsible for killing American Soldiers and the deaths of untold thousands of Iraqi civilians just ate 1000lbs of bombs, which was oh so graciously delivered to him by one of our F-16's.
Keep up the good fight guys. The world is a safer place today.
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Now if we could just stop jar heads killing civilians, or shooting british troops. There was this time these geniouse americans were orderd to wait for british troops to relieve them and told to shoot anyone who comes near them until the british arrive. The english arrive in english vehicles, at the correct time, on the planned route, broadcasting over the radio announcing there approach. So what do the american troops do? Start shooting the British, huzah!
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On the interest of keeping things civil, I'll ask you to remove that, or have a DM do so, and we'll forget it was ever there.
This was made to honor those who are over there making the sacrifice that to few are willing to make. American, British, Australian, Japanese, and the rest of those in the coalition.
Not to attack them
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Wouldnt that be un-constitutional?
Chief adviser to the Pharaoh, in one very snazzy mutli-coloured coat
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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I recall that you once endorsed the Oxford English Dictionary as a standard for scholarly work. Perhaps, then, you will accept the Compact Oxford English Dictionary as a guide for a word’s general usage.
The Compact Oxford English Dictionary gives three definitions of the word “rape”:
1. (of a man) force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with him against their will.
2. spoil or destroy (a place).
3. a plant of the cabbage family with bright yellow flowers, especially a variety (oilseed rape) grown for its oil-rich seed.
Now, of these three, I suspected from the context that Violent meant definition number one.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
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Grow up Patriarch917, it’s incongruousness to have "willingness and rape" in the same statement. The terms are mutually exclusive. There is no williness in rape.
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I've never heard the word "rape" being used to describe having an affair ie. having sex with someone other than your spouse. Are you supporting another falsehood, that you can't rape your wife?
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p917 - you also need to have a look at the legal definition of rape,not the dictionary definition.
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The definition set by legal preceedent of rape is more expansive than the one you outline above from the dictionary.
The dictionary will give you the historical definition of the word, based on the first time it was used (e.g., O.E.D), but not often how the word is used in contemprary society and culture...the legal definitions give us that context.
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I recall that you once endorsed the Oxford English Dictionary as a standard for scholarly work. Perhaps, then, you will accept the Compact Oxford English Dictionary as a guide for a word’s general usage.
Wayne Wayne Wayne.
As you point out the Oxford English Dictionary is the standard dictionary for scholarly reference.
Not the Compact OED. Or the Junior OED or any other dumbed down/abbreviated version. I think you are probably well aware of this.
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so sorry... it wasn't a wayne specific definition - merely one lifted from a dumbed down verision of a dictionary.
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which doesn't account for the fact that you can rape a willing child, so it does not work with the term's general usage in society and in law –
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and thus required specific delineation as nobody else has a psychic link with you, enabling us to grasp which obscure definition you have tagged on to a word.
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In fact, I have recently spent about a month studying the legal definition of rape.
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Like sex, democracy is only beneficial if you are mature enough to practice it wisely.
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Just as children should have their decisions made for them by responsible adults. So also the Iraqi should be taken care of by mature countries
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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How can we discuss who bears the responsibility for rape, if you cannot even tell me what that word means
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"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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I would probably go along with this idea. Like sex, democracy is only beneficial if you are mature enough to practice it wisely.
Just as children should have their decisions made for them by responsible adults. So also the Iraqi should be taken care of by mature countries
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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@ NYC
I said:
“If you consent, . . . you are willing.
You said:
“someone can be willing but not give concent.”
The two do not contradict.
It is as if I said
“if it is a square, then it is a rectangle”
and you said
“something can be a square but not be a rectangle.”
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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Consent, or lack thereof, is an indication of whether you are willing or unwilling. If you consent to have sex, you have indicated that you are “willing” to have sex.
Not true. There are many circumstances where someone can be willing but not give concent.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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I have recently spent about a month studying the legal definition of rape.
Where did you study law? What University?
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Like sex, democracy is only beneficial if you are mature enough to practice it wisely.
Do you support rape and sexual abuse?
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Just as children should have their decisions made for them by responsible adults. So also the Iraqi should be taken care of by mature countries
Do you believe in white supremacist?
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@ NYC
I said: “If you consent, . . . you are willing.
You said: “someone can be willing but not give concent.”
The two do not contradict.
It is as if I said: “if it is a square, then it is a rectangle”
and you said: “something can be a square but not be a rectangle.”
That would be true if that's what you'd said. But it wasn't... (reposted below for lazyness...)
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Consent, or lack thereof, is an indication of whether you are willing or unwilling. If you consent to have sex, you have indicated that you are “willing” to have sex.
Not true. There are many circumstances where someone can be willing but not give concent.
In your above quote you clearly say 'OR LACK THEREOF' and 'WILLING OR UNWILLING'.
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I agree with 'Concent is an indication of whether you are willing' but do not agree that 'Lack of concent is an indication that you are unwilling' which you did say.
Your square-rectangle analogy is a good one, unfortunately I think you misspoke in the quote I quoted above in this post. I don't actually think you believe the 'or lack thereof' portion as it contradicts what you've said elsewhere.
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Thus, I stand by the idea that a lack of consent indicates unwillingness.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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Consent, or lack thereof, is an indication of whether you are willing or unwilling. If you consent to have sex, you have indicated that you are “willing” to have sex.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!
-Albert Einstein-
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I was simply trying to say that if a democracy is not what iraq wanted than they could have said " No, we want some thing different."
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!
-Albert Einstein-
Peanut butter... It fills the cracks of the soul! -Paul Blart-
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!
-Albert Einstein-
Peanut butter... It fills the cracks of the soul! -Paul Blart-
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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