Written by: plague angel
Don't believe everything you are told ... by anyone.
... question everything ...
... do your own research ...
... form your own conclusions ...
If the majority believes it, it is probably wrong.
Written by: plague angel
While it is true that fiber is an important part of your diet, even necessary to protect you from some diseases, carbohydrates themselves are not necessary. There are "essential" fatty acids and "essential" amino acids (from protein), however there are no known essential carbohydrates.
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Written by: jo_rhymes
Patriarch917, what you're saying astounds me. Anorexia is termed a "disorder" as it kills. It is an illness. It is fatal.
The website you just posted above clearly states it's in favour of euthanasia for terminally ill patients only. I am whole heartedly in favour of euthanasia. What I'm not in favour of, is young girls, as young as 6 or 7, starving themselves because the media is telling them they are too thin, and then dying.
I dont think this is ignorance or intolerance on my part, correct me if i'm wrong
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
Written by: pat
She draws a clear difference between those that are involuntarily anarexic (can't help themselves because of mental problems), and those that voluntarily choose it as an alternative lifestyle.
Written by: pat
To ignore your body's wish to indulge takes a tremendous amount of willpower when done voluntarily, as she points out. By practicing such self control in the area of eating, she has developed skills that can be applied in other areas of life.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: Patriarch917
I would think, first of all, that someone mentaly strong enough overcome an addiction to food could easily resist negative peer pressure, temptation to smoke, laziness, or subcoming to the opinions of anaphobes.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
Written by: coleman
i realise there's little point in a rebuttal since you never seen to respond, preferring instead to just state more increasingly non-sensical arguments until we get bored pointing out the inconsistencies in them.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: Birgit
You've said in a thread a while ago that to you HoP discussions are practice for law school. I think with how you repeatedly ignore what people are saying, and what the real problem is, you should be one of the people that sues microwave companies for not putting "don't heat the dog" stickers on their products
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Boo x
I intend to live forever - so far, so good.
If it costs "a penny for your thoughts", but people give you their "two-pence worth", who is getting the extra penny?
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Written by: DSM-IV Criteria for Anorexia Nervosa
1. Refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (eg, weight loss leading to maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected or failure to make expected weight gain during period of growth, leading to body weight less than 85% of that expected).
2. Intense fear of gaining weight or becoming fat, even though underweight.
3. Disturbance in the way in which one's body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or denial of the seriousness of the current low body weight.
4. In postmenarchal females, amenorrhea ie, the absence of at least three consecutive cycles. (A woman is considered to have amenorrhea if her periods occur only following hormone, eg, estrogen administration.)
Specify type:
* Restricting Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has not regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).
* Binge-Eating/Purging Type: During the current episode of anorexia nervosa, the person has regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behavior (ie, self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas).
Boo x
I intend to live forever - so far, so good.
If it costs "a penny for your thoughts", but people give you their "two-pence worth", who is getting the extra penny?
Written by: Patriarch917
She draws a clear difference between those that are involuntarily anarexic (can't help themselves because of mental problems), and those that voluntarily choose it as an alternative lifestyle. One can take a neutral thing, such as poi, and turn it into an addiction or a compulsion which could rightly be classified as a mental disorder. However, the issue is with the addiction, not with the action itself. While she seems to agree with you that being ED-ana is bad, she has chosen to voluntarily live a lifestyle of frugality and body sculpting.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Written by: Patriarch917
There are too many good ways to refute her site than to just dismiss her as mentally ill.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: patriarch
I have long since resolved not to be concerned about sounding arrogant. Any time you confidently state something, even if it is merely a fact, someone is likely to think you sound a bit arrogant. This is even more true with an opinion.
My career is going to be built upon confidently telling people facts and oppinions that are exactly opposite what the lawyers for the opposition will say.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: Birgit
for practicing saying opinions that are exactly the opposite of what most people on here say, think and can back up with facts, good sources and reliable information, you've been doing really really well.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Written by: coleman
i actually agree with you [patriarch###] that if you choose to starve yourself for no particluar reason at all, you may be a bit weird but have the right to choose what to do to your own body.
but after a significant period (6 months +) being able to objectively define what is done by choice and what is done as a result of a learned disorder becomes almost impossible anyway.
but i put it to you that most pro-ana website visitors do not eat miniscule amounts of food because they have amazing willpower - they do so because they suffer from a disorder.
Written by: linden rathen
you can only tell the difference when they both decide to stop. for someone who expeirences anorexia as a compulsion that compulsion will be very hard to break
if 'anorexia' is chosen then moving back to eating will require a lot less will power and again would be a choise
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: linden rathen
i think it is possible to willfulyl starve yourself.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...