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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:I've been busy designing recently and I'm happy to report I've made some serious progress! I've very nearly got the final prototype board fleshed out and a design I reckon ought to work very well for the casing.


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I'll send off for the first set of prototype boards some time next week (still needs some tweaking and double-checking). I need to investigate a few more companies to find someone to make my polycarbonate balls. Just need to get the software up to scratch now. As it stands you'd need to have some special hardware to add new light sequences etc. into them... once I've got my head around a few things, you'll just be able to plug your hyperlights into a USB socket, fire up your software and tell them what you want!

Watch this space biggrin cool


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:These aren't any ordinary lights don't forget.. they're MUCH brighter than regular LEDs.. and they can reproduce any colour of the rainbow smile

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Yakumo
SILVER Member since May 2006

Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire

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Posted:mm, from what I've seen of the hyperlights up close, 2 might be enough depending on the internal refractive qualities of the tubing (or it's coating) used for the hoop.

otherwise, 3 or 4 should almost certainly cover it, and gives plenty of opportunity for wonderful effects smile


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:Just remember the cost here... bearing in mind that by my current estimates a pair of HyperPoi are going to be around the 120 mark. That would be one expensive hoop (and would need 8 batteries to power it)!! smile

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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire

Total posts: 3224
Posted:ubblol And the power to blind onlookers too!

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the_mods_stole_my_name
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Location: Maghull, Liverpool

Total posts: 1286
Posted:120! jesus! they do look amazing...but 120!

*goes away to figure out a way of justifying spending 120 on a set of glowing balls*


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Yakumo
SILVER Member since May 2006

Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire

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Posted:I think that's first run costs (ie b4 a bigger level of production)

and besides, do you know how much aerotechs cost? blehh


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the_mods_stole_my_name
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the_mods_stole_my_name

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Location: Maghull, Liverpool

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Posted:i know, its just a fairly large outlay for a set of poi.

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Gayle......!
SILVER Member since Jul 2004

Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol !!!!!!

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Posted:but oh, so, worth it! ubblove

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Mr_Chutney
SILVER Member since Apr 2003

Mr_Chutney

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Location: Herefordshire

Total posts: 1711
Posted:Idancelike...


You really should consider the standard of the kit relative to other market leaders- Aerotech meteors were over 150 for a pair,more for the better colours.

Hyperlights offer so much more than than that- yes its quite a bit, but IMO they will be the best glow poi available by a considerable margin and totally worth even the initail cost(and thats from someone who owned Aerotechs for 2 years).


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strugz
BRONZE Member since Mar 2002

strugz

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Location: Southampton - Possibly...

Total posts: 3964
Posted:120 biggrin



if you put a price on Johns time - id say hes doing you all a favour ..........



That is cheap, damn cheap for that amount of work, i think people forget what goes on behind the scenes as far as accumilating costs goes rolleyes



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Besides - these will get you work anywhere, shite, one gig would pay for a set!! eek


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:Hehe, cheers guys smile



I would imagine the time I've spent on these to run into hundreds if not thousands of hours. If I factored that and all the cash I've put into building prototypes, you could probably add a zero or two to the end. Fortunately, this is a hobby and as a result, I'm writing off all the development costs because I enjoy it (most of the time) wink



I know they sound expensive, but once you've spun them and played with making your own sequences you'll soon realise how much you're getting for so little. Even when they're in production I'll be continuing to improve the software that makes the POI do what they do and the interface on your computer... so they will mostly likely improve even after you've bought them. The hardware is capable of a lot more than I've currently got running - think of it as a free upgrades biggrin



[Edit]Just got back from the post office... Mr Mags, you should be getting some fun post in a day or two. Congratulations on being the proud borrower of the only pair of HyperLights in existence smile

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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire

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Posted:... DONT BREAK THEM! eek

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maus
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

maus

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Sihanoukville, cambodia

Total posts: 4191
Posted:Well that will certainly cheer him up!
*is massively jealous*



*plans on intercepting the post man for the next few days*



*evil grin*

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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:I should warn you, they're fitted with anti-stealing devices. They're tuned to Mags' DNA so if anyone else picks them up... *BOOM* ...so don't say I didn't warn you ...not that you'd be able to (being exploded and all) wink hug

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Skulduggery
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales

Total posts: 8428
Posted:120 sounds like a more than fair price to me. I've seen them and they are worth every penny.

Maus if you manage it can I bribe you with naked men and 'special' coca cola for them? biggrin


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the_mods_stole_my_name
SILVER Member since May 2006

the_mods_stole_my_name

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Location: Maghull, Liverpool

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Posted:fair enough, 120 isn't that bad, it just sounds alot. you say that one gig would pay for them.....i don't do performances so the money isn't quite as easily justified. they are amazingly good, i saw them at falmouth and was in shock at just how bright they are.

just out of curiosity (plus i can't be bothered backtracking through the thread) will they be programmable by a technophobe such as myself?


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maus
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maus

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Location: Sihanoukville, cambodia

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Posted:Thats alright Jon, being God I'm invincible anyway, and plus I extracted Mags' DNA yesterday, thinking it might come in handy one day...who would have thought that day would come so soon! wink

Skully..naked men you say???? umm *tempted* however the "special" coca cola concerns me a little.... I'd have to say no...but you could come and play with them! wink

And I think 120 is a bargain, and I will most certainly be getting some as soon as I can.

Any chance of putting myself on a pre-order list!?

Or is that already 10 miles long! ubblol


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Mr_Chutney
SILVER Member since Apr 2003

Mr_Chutney

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Location: Herefordshire

Total posts: 1711
Posted:Jon is planning to have a computer interface that will be as techy as the user wants it to be (simple for those who need it to be simple, techy for those who like things more complex).

But i'm sure he can tell you that himself smile


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:Programming them should be as easy as dragging and dropping different colours to make a sequence and then hitting the program button. I was playing with an early version of the software last night when I was preparing things for Mags and was pleasently suprised by how easy and quick it was to make small adjustments to get things looking just right biggrin



If you don't want to make your own sequences I suspect that once a few people have them, you'll find hundreds of patterns posted on www.hyperlight.co.uk smile



[Edit]Damn, you write too fast Chutters... but you're correct wink



Mags; If the patterns that run on there aren't enough, I should (with a bit of luck!) be able to get some software to you so you can re-program them with some new sequences! hug

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Yakumo
SILVER Member since May 2006

Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire

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Posted:This may well have gone without saying, but if you want another person for serious software testing, or even working on the code a bit I know several languages reasonably well, and have all the bits/software necessary.

I live with some fulltime pro coders and ui designers too atm smile


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

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Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:I appreciate the offer.. and I may have some demo sets soon to distribute to a few BETA testers. Funnily enough I have a long list of offers though wink

As for the website, thanks for the PMs guys and yes, I'm aware that there are spelling mistakes and out of date info on there. It was literally just a placeholder so that I could test that I had the basic site installed correctly smile


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Yakumo
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Yakumo

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Posted:oops, lol, that was meant to be a P.M, anyway, it was also meant to imply I was happy to test software without the hardware smile

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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

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Location: Great Malvern [UK]

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Posted:That would be greatly appreciated. I've got some basic software that could do with being tested (just to check it will actually run on other peoples computers).. although it won't be at all impressive from your point of view (it's just the command line interface that allows you to write programs to the poi via USB).

Once I've finished fiddling with the design of the balls and sent that off I'll start to concentrate on the website and software a bit more.

'tis all coming along rather nicely so far smile


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mcp
PLATINUM Member since May 2003

mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.

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Posted:brightness! YEAH! you've got my vote mr hyperlight! BRIGHTNESS is the number one thing all glowtoys need more of... if only you could spin 100w lightbulbs without a cable to a mains power supply...

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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Mr_Chutney
SILVER Member since Apr 2003

Mr_Chutney

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Location: Herefordshire

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Posted:I reckon these are almost as bright Meg biggrin

The diffusers set them off perfectly, as bright as you'd ever need without being too bright (though we did consider sunglasses for the new vid biggrin)


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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire

Total posts: 3224
Posted: Written by: maus



Thats alright Jon, being God I'm invincible anyway, and plus I extracted Mags' DNA yesterday, thinking it might come in handy one day...who would have thought that day would come so soon! wink





I shan't be asking HOW you "extracted" that DNA eek



Knowing you, it will either be X rated... or gross... or both wink


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

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Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:Well if you set them all to show bright white, that's 3W right there.. so if you spun 15 and 1/6 pairs, you'd have very nearly 100W wink



To be honest though, spinning them as they are made me feel a little odd after a couple of hours.



As for the DNA.. I got it from his hair brush (honest) wink

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Brian:-)
BRONZE Member since Jun 2004

Brian:-)

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Location: London

Total posts: 37
Posted:Don't forget that LED Light is brigter than incandesent light, where most of the output is heat.
You are doing a great job. I have been following from the start. Good luck.


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*HyperLight
BRONZE Member since Dec 2003

*HyperLight

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Location: Great Malvern [UK]

Total posts: 1174
Posted:Good point - wikipedia agrees. I'd not realised they were as bad as that (according to wikipedia, only~5% of the energy is emitted as light in a normal lightbulb!!!).

I'm very grateful for all the encouragement you guys give - without it, I think I would probably have given up on this venture some time ago smile


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Yakumo
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Yakumo

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Posted:oh i think many people could arrange for things to get 'interesting' should you try with the givings of up <cough> devil



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