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I've been busy designing recently and I'm happy to report I've made some serious progress! I've very nearly got the final prototype board fleshed out and a design I reckon ought to work very well for the casing.
Non-Https Image Link
Non-Https Image Link
I'll send off for the first set of prototype boards some time next week (still needs some tweaking and double-checking). I need to investigate a few more companies to find someone to make my polycarbonate balls. Just need to get the software up to scratch now. As it stands you'd need to have some special hardware to add new light sequences etc. into them... once I've got my head around a few things, you'll just be able to plug your hyperlights into a USB socket, fire up your software and tell them what you want!
Watch this space
I've been busy designing recently and I'm happy to report I've made some serious progress! I've very nearly got the final prototype board fleshed out and a design I reckon ought to work very well for the casing.
Non-Https Image Link
Non-Https Image Link
I'll send off for the first set of prototype boards some time next week (still needs some tweaking and double-checking). I need to investigate a few more companies to find someone to make my polycarbonate balls. Just need to get the software up to scratch now. As it stands you'd need to have some special hardware to add new light sequences etc. into them... once I've got my head around a few things, you'll just be able to plug your hyperlights into a USB socket, fire up your software and tell them what you want!
Watch this space
Cake or Death?
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Good question.. I'm a touch busy this week, but lets pencil in this sunday coming for an evening of spinning etc. ?
Good question.. I'm a touch busy this week, but lets pencil in this sunday coming for an evening of spinning etc. ?
Cake or Death?
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Jon, might have found what you were after!
I'll be sending them up to Chutney for a play so see what you think!
[/end vague crytic comments]
Jon, might have found what you were after!
I'll be sending them up to Chutney for a play so see what you think!
[/end vague crytic comments]
Gayle.....!
Posted:
Sweet! You're a star
Sweet! You're a star
Cake or Death?
Posted:
hey, have to say like soo many other people WoW these poi are amazing. The best ive ever seen. I would ask to be a tester but i know your lists are full, will buy some soon as i can. just thought you might like to see this pic i have of them at fal https://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/display.php?image=/500/7954untitled.JPG
and congratulate you on making the BEST poi ever
hey, have to say like soo many other people WoW these poi are amazing. The best ive ever seen. I would ask to be a tester but i know your lists are full, will buy some soon as i can. just thought you might like to see this pic i have of them at fal https://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/display.php?image=/500/7954untitled.JPG
and congratulate you on making the BEST poi ever
Didn't your mother tell you not to play with fire? You'll get burt. Did i listen, No! Burns heal!
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Praise indeed! Glad you liked them Just you wait though - the next versions are much nicer to spin (lighter / less dangerous!). I think they may actually be marginally brighter too 
I just sent of my drawings of the new housings to half a dozen plastics comapnies to get some quotes for:
a one off prototype - for test-fitting the PCB / lense / batteries / battery contacts
10 - initial trial run so I have 5 pairs to hand out to my beta testers.
100 - first batch open to the general public
1000 - getting far too ambitious but I'm curious
Nice photo by the way - thanks!
Praise indeed! Glad you liked them
Just you wait though - the next versions are much nicer to spin (lighter / less dangerous!). I think they may actually be marginally brighter too I just sent of my drawings of the new housings to half a dozen plastics comapnies to get some quotes for:
a one off prototype - for test-fitting the PCB / lense / batteries / battery contacts
10 - initial trial run so I have 5 pairs to hand out to my beta testers.
100 - first batch open to the general public
1000 - getting far too ambitious but I'm curious
Nice photo by the way - thanks!
Cake or Death?
Posted:
Jon, i watched the adventures of lois and clark (superman) last night and they had a hyperlight. Is that where the name comes from?
Jon, i watched the adventures of lois and clark (superman) last night and they had a hyperlight. Is that where the name comes from?
Gayle.....!
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I don't think 1000 is too ambitious I'm sure they'd shift well on HoP or VERY easily at any festival if demo's were being put on
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I don't think 1000 is too ambitious I'm sure they'd shift well on HoP or VERY easily at any festival if demo's were being put on
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Lol.. no! Actually I don't know when I came up with the name - it just sort of popped into my head.
Was theirs in poi form? Had they seen the future of my toys? Did it look good?
The more I make in a single batch, the cheaper they become... it's just finding the capital to do it that's the tricky bit!
Written by: Gayle......!
Jon, i watched the adventures of lois and clark (superman) last night and they had a hyperlight. Is that where the name comes from?
Lol.. no! Actually I don't know when I came up with the name - it just sort of popped into my head.
Was theirs in poi form? Had they seen the future of my toys? Did it look good?
The more I make in a single batch, the cheaper they become... it's just finding the capital to do it that's the tricky bit!
Cake or Death?
Posted:
I could buy 51% of the hyperlight company!
(though im not up for investing if its a business flop!)
I could buy 51% of the hyperlight company!
(though im not up for investing if its a business flop!)
Posted:
I'll buy the other 51%
I'll buy the other 51%
Posted:
Well it was a glowing (bloody bright) globe which transmitted messages to Clark from his parents. If Superman had two of them, he'd be giving you a run for your money i reckon!
I've been trying to find an image but can't
Written by: *HyperLightWritten by: Gayle......!
Jon, i watched the adventures of lois and clark (superman) last night and they had a hyperlight. Is that where the name comes from?
Lol.. no! Actually I don't know when I came up with the name - it just sort of popped into my head.
Was theirs in poi form? Had they seen the future of my toys? Did it look good?
Well it was a glowing (bloody bright) globe which transmitted messages to Clark from his parents. If Superman had two of them, he'd be giving you a run for your money i reckon!
I've been trying to find an image but can't
Gayle.....!
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Ive just spent the past 20 minutes looking for a picture. I know the exact thing you are talking about \Gayle, but I reckon it looks more like a white globall!
Ive just spent the past 20 minutes looking for a picture. I know the exact thing you are talking about \Gayle, but I reckon it looks more like a white globall!
Posted:
but little brighter and didn't break when they dropped it!
but little brighter and didn't break when they dropped it!
Gayle.....!
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What happened if they tapped it? Did it go into some sort of confusing menu system?
What happened if they tapped it? Did it go into some sort of confusing menu system?
Cake or Death?
Posted:
Well, it turned it on. Only one program setting tho
Well, it turned it on. Only one program setting tho
Gayle.....!
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Well that's better than nothing
Getting back to the original thread topic a bit; I've been thinking of using a similar tap system to turn the hyperlights on / off and to get them syncronised. If there's a few set programs on them I might well use the same mechanism to choose between them. Either way it would be vastly simpler than the old aerotech scheme. I've tried using Chutney's meteors before and found them immensly confusing!
Well that's better than nothing
Getting back to the original thread topic a bit; I've been thinking of using a similar tap system to turn the hyperlights on / off and to get them syncronised. If there's a few set programs on them I might well use the same mechanism to choose between them. Either way it would be vastly simpler than the old aerotech scheme. I've tried using Chutney's meteors before and found them immensly confusing!
Cake or Death?
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Someone cool had an idea after we discussed the new Aerotech ultimates.
What would the chances be of having some RF (Radio Frequency) controlled poi?
Someone cool had an idea after we discussed the new Aerotech ultimates.
What would the chances be of having some RF (Radio Frequency) controlled poi?
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That's certainly an add-on I've thought about, but it would be somewhat more complicated. I'd probably sell it as an add-on module because I would think most people would be happy with the base units.
Also, if you had a radio control of some sort, what would you hold it with while you're spinning a pair of poi?
That's certainly an add-on I've thought about, but it would be somewhat more complicated. I'd probably sell it as an add-on module because I would think most people would be happy with the base units.
Also, if you had a radio control of some sort, what would you hold it with while you're spinning a pair of poi?
Cake or Death?
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... make the remote control float!! Anti-grav devices!!
Mr Hyperlight sir, this may/may not have been asked, and I cant be bothred with a search, but whats teh weight distribution gonna be like... ie... for contact?
... make the remote control float!! Anti-grav devices!!
Mr Hyperlight sir, this may/may not have been asked, and I cant be bothred with a search, but whats teh weight distribution gonna be like... ie... for contact?
Posted:
i could use the controller with my teeth, in the same way as i show off when i smoke a fag whilst spinning!
i could use the controller with my teeth, in the same way as i show off when i smoke a fag whilst spinning!
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Posted:
"what would you hold it with"
Id use the usb port on the computer if I were you!
"what would you hold it with"
Id use the usb port on the computer if I were you!
Posted:
Weight distribution? Well the balls themselves should be almost perfectly balanced. If you're talking about where the weight will be within the sock, the answer's all at the end with the ball. If you're asking how much they weigh, the answer is the weight of 2xAA batteries + a bit for the plastic housing. It should be relatively easy to add more weight if people want them heavier too - it'll just be a case of screwing more weights onto a spindle in the middle of the ball.
Does that help?
...so you can type and spin at the same time then? Impressive stuff
I think for everyone who doesn't do proper performances (you and me rather than chimera for example) the pre-programmed sequences will be fine. Unless you've got a show that needs sequencing to lights or something, I find it hard to see how a pre-programmed sequence wouldn't be enough?
EDITED_BY: *HyperLight (1154534369)
Written by: Asena
Mr Hyperlight sir, this may/may not have been asked, and I cant be bothred with a search, but whats teh weight distribution gonna be like... ie... for contact?
Weight distribution? Well the balls themselves should be almost perfectly balanced. If you're talking about where the weight will be within the sock, the answer's all at the end with the ball. If you're asking how much they weigh, the answer is the weight of 2xAA batteries + a bit for the plastic housing. It should be relatively easy to add more weight if people want them heavier too - it'll just be a case of screwing more weights onto a spindle in the middle of the ball.
Does that help?
Written by: UmbiliciformCraterOnFace
"what would you hold it with"
Id use the usb port on the computer if I were you!
...so you can type and spin at the same time then? Impressive stuff
I think for everyone who doesn't do proper performances (you and me rather than chimera for example) the pre-programmed sequences will be fine. Unless you've got a show that needs sequencing to lights or something, I find it hard to see how a pre-programmed sequence wouldn't be enough?
EDITED_BY: *HyperLight (1154534369)
Cake or Death?
Posted:
Thats bonza... i just wanted to know if I tried to roll one... it wouldnt wobble all funny cos its really heavy on one side!
Spin and typing? thats nothing....
Its all the practice he gets from one handed internet searching
Thats bonza... i just wanted to know if I tried to roll one... it wouldnt wobble all funny cos its really heavy on one side!
Spin and typing? thats nothing....
Its all the practice he gets from one handed internet searching
Posted:
*nods*
*nods*
Posted:
just wondering what the staff design will be like? what way would you put the LEDS, from the ends to the middle or more than two like a aerotech?
I have an idea, what about a hyperlight at each end pointing to the middle. The mid section of the staff clear tough tube, filled with silver glitter and water or uv glow ink? cap the ends water tight, the cap would fit your board. the LEDS would reflect off the glitter, as it spins the glitter should move? It would glow and sparkle, refelct the light in every direction!
just wondering what the staff design will be like? what way would you put the LEDS, from the ends to the middle or more than two like a aerotech?
I have an idea, what about a hyperlight at each end pointing to the middle. The mid section of the staff clear tough tube, filled with silver glitter and water or uv glow ink? cap the ends water tight, the cap would fit your board. the LEDS would reflect off the glitter, as it spins the glitter should move? It would glow and sparkle, refelct the light in every direction!
Didn't your mother tell you not to play with fire? You'll get burt. Did i listen, No! Burns heal!
Posted:
Word up Bard 
Are you suggesting filling an electric staff, with water?
Can you see where im going here?
Word up Bard
Are you suggesting filling an electric staff, with water?
Can you see where im going here?
Posted:
My plans (which to be brutally honest are only back of the envelope stuff so far) are to stick an LED at each end of the staff. The batteries (4xAAA or AA, 2 at each end) would act as ballast.
One thing that been bothering me about the staf design was that I suspected the ends wouldn't be weighty enough to spin nicely. Ideally, the center would be light and strong and the ends heavy to give the thing momentum. I have some cunning ideas to make it stronger although your idea of using water might work to weight the thing. Only problem with that is:
a) What if it leaks? HyperLights are quite powerful devices and the idea of something cracking and electrocuting someone scares me!
b) You'd need something to stop the liquid going funny if it's left in the sun - it could grow algae or something if you're not careful
c) Even plastic tends to be slightly porous so you might find over time that air gradually creeps in. If you've got air in there, you might find the staff starts to slosh about which would probably make it feel less comfortable / predictable to spin.
d) If the staff is left in the sun, water isn't all that compressable (compared to air for example) so if it got really hot, it might crack and then leak (see point a!).
...as a result, water might not be the best choice. My ideas that will make the thing stronger should also help with the diffusing although I think your glitter idea does sound pretty cool
My plans (which to be brutally honest are only back of the envelope stuff so far) are to stick an LED at each end of the staff. The batteries (4xAAA or AA, 2 at each end) would act as ballast.
One thing that been bothering me about the staf design was that I suspected the ends wouldn't be weighty enough to spin nicely. Ideally, the center would be light and strong and the ends heavy to give the thing momentum. I have some cunning ideas to make it stronger although your idea of using water might work to weight the thing. Only problem with that is:
a) What if it leaks? HyperLights are quite powerful devices and the idea of something cracking and electrocuting someone scares me!
b) You'd need something to stop the liquid going funny if it's left in the sun - it could grow algae or something if you're not careful
c) Even plastic tends to be slightly porous so you might find over time that air gradually creeps in. If you've got air in there, you might find the staff starts to slosh about which would probably make it feel less comfortable / predictable to spin.
d) If the staff is left in the sun, water isn't all that compressable (compared to air for example) so if it got really hot, it might crack and then leak (see point a!).
...as a result, water might not be the best choice. My ideas that will make the thing stronger should also help with the diffusing although I think your glitter idea does sound pretty cool
Cake or Death?
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the idea of it sounded good at the time, i see your point's
the idea of it sounded good at the time, i see your point's
Didn't your mother tell you not to play with fire? You'll get burt. Did i listen, No! Burns heal!
Posted:
I only foudn out that having a stick of water didnt work... when I made a stick of water.. and dropped it.
I only foudn out that having a stick of water didnt work... when I made a stick of water.. and dropped it.
Posted:
I think it sounds wicked, although not sure about the water.
Jonny, i thought you had found a picture of the hyperlight and got all excited!
Written by: *HyperLight
I think your glitter idea does sound pretty cool
I think it sounds wicked, although not sure about the water.
Jonny, i thought you had found a picture of the hyperlight and got all excited!
Gayle.....!
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