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The Misguided Oracle
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

The Misguided Oracle

the floor is a sea of tigers...
Location: Brisvegas, Australia

Total posts: 404
Posted:Just read this: Surgeon gave his own blood as heart boy lay dying on table

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2204387,00.html
br>what a legend!


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Neon_Shaolin
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

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Posted:That is absolutely wonderful what the guy did but I'm just sad that giving blood isn't something that everyone is more than willing to do...

I would love to think that in the same situation that everyone (blood type allowing) would roll up their sleeve and strap on the tourniquet without hesitation... Especially when someone's life is hanging in the balance then and there...


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Medusa
BRONZE Member since Nov 2003

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Posted:I would do it if they would let me! frown

I think that doctor is brilliant....especially after he just had something to eat and drink and went in to finish it all up...WOW!!!


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Neon_Shaolin
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

Neon_Shaolin

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Posted:Why won't they let you?

Is it because if your blood touches the floor it'll turn into a army of giant scorpians or something?


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Medusa
BRONZE Member since Nov 2003

Medusa

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Posted:I wish it was something that interesting...that could be cool to watch...nah it is simple...you have to be over a certain weight to give blood I am not that certain weight.

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Igirisujin
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

Igirisujin

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Location: Preston, United Kingdom

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Posted:eek Eek thats abit shockingly irrisponsible, you cant just go giving blood without going through the usuall procedures first though, what would the world come too if that was the norm

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Wengrid


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Location: Canterbury

Total posts: 10
Posted:Having said that i think the questions you have to answer before you can donate blood puts some people off.

Also for those of us who dont go looking to do it but might be willing to do it if asked theres not much advertisment (in this area) about where to go or whatever. i mean university has a van thing that comes around every so often but they dont tell us when unless u live on campus so they get less people going.


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MiG
GOLD Member since Apr 2004

MiG

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Location: Bogged at CG, Australia

Total posts: 3415
Posted:@brit-joe:

 Written by: that article

Knowing that the hospital was short of supplies, the team had screened Dr Weinstein’s blood the day before for compatibility



Those sorts of procedures?

Or you mean all the junk that goes with donating in western society? Seems to me that they didn't have time to fill out paperwork...


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Gremlin_Lou


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Posted:*poke* While we're on the subject i'm going to poke everyone into thinking about joining the bone marrow register next time they give blood. Chances are you won;t get called up, but if you are you get a chance to save someones life (and get 5days off work, pampered, told how great you are etc)

*poke*


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Total posts: 4693
Posted:i donated like three weeks ago, it only takes about an hour, and usually you can book it to a time that suits you. in australia after you donate you get free food and drink as well biggrin.

there are quite a few restrictions to donating, and according to stats i got from the Australian Red Cross Blood Donation Service in the mail today only 1 in every 30 eligible people in Australia donate frown.

i'm 0+ smile


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Kyrian


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Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:To answer your question Brit_Joe, I am not allowed to donate in my home country, so I don't.

I think, after re_evaluating, I am allowed to donate in england tho, so I probably will when I am over there!

(Can't donate in the US cos I lived in germany, ergo I must have mad cow disease).


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Gnor
BRONZE Member since Mar 2003

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Posted:I was listening today that they will organise a bus to come and get groups of 6 or more and you get a free movie ticket and yoiu get to be part of some club that sounded like a vampire club.

They told me not to come back too, I kept vomiting and fainting. frown


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dani_babyboo
SILVER Member since Feb 2005

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Posted:theres many ppl who cant donate for many reasons.

i cant because i am aneamic thats what my doctor told me

my aneamia drops really low at times


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Posted:guide lines for donating in australia here.

you can never donate in australia if you have:
.lived in the UK between 1980-1996 for a cumulative period of 6 months or more (mad cow disease)
. are HIV positive
.injected drugs not prescribed by a doctor or dentist
.have hepatitis B or C
.had open heart surgery

additionally you can have you iligibility temporarily suspended if you:

had a tattoo (in the last 12 months)
had a blood transfusion(in the last 12 months)
had any piercing performed with clean, single use disposable equipment (in which case Plasma only can be used)
have been in prison or lock up(in the last 12 months)
had male to male sex(in the last 12 months)
had sex with a prostitute(in the last 12 months)
had a partner with hepatitis B or C(in the last 12 months)
are pregnant or breast feeding
have a cold, flu, sore throat or diarrhoea
have been taken antibiotics in the last 5 days
had dental work (fillings/cleaning in the last 24 hours and 1 week for root canal treatment)


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Sethis
BRONZE Member since May 2005

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Location: York University, United Kingdo...

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Posted:I have a friend who donated blood, and persuaded me (it didn't take much) to start giving blood too. Unfortunately the very first time we went together she was told that she couldn't give blood any more because of a new guideline about blood transfusions (she had one when she was tiny from her dad).

Me, I'm B+ and help people with sickle-cell anaemia! biggrin

It's actually quite fun, although a bit disturbing because when I got back home, I live on the third floor, and actually got really tired walking up the stairs, a very strange sensation!


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Neon_Shaolin
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

Neon_Shaolin

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Total posts: 6120
Posted: Written by: Mr Majestik


guide lines for donating in australia here.

you can never donate in australia if you have:
.lived in the UK between 1980-1996 for a cumulative period of 6 months or more (mad cow disease)
. are HIV positive
.injected drugs not prescribed by a doctor or dentist
.have hepatitis B or C
.had open heart surgery

additionally you can have you iligibility temporarily suspended if you:

had a tattoo (in the last 12 months)
had a blood transfusion(in the last 12 months)
had any piercing performed with clean, single use disposable equipment (in which case Plasma only can be used)
have been in prison or lock up(in the last 12 months)
had male to male sex(in the last 12 months)
had sex with a prostitute(in the last 12 months)
had a partner with hepatitis B or C(in the last 12 months)
are pregnant or breast feeding
have a cold, flu, sore throat or diarrhoea
have been taken antibiotics in the last 5 days
had dental work (fillings/cleaning in the last 24 hours and 1 week for root canal treatment)



That's nearly over half of all potential applicants out of the window then? And how come female to female sex is allowed?


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Total posts: 4693
Posted: Written by: Neon Shaolin

That's nearly over half of all potential applicants out of the window then? And how come female to female sex is allowed?





good question, i dont know, they didnt ask me if i'd had female to female sex when i went in wink





 Written by: Sethis

It's actually quite fun





yeah, during the first interview they give you a milkshake or a sugary drink, then you get to sit in a big chair that reclies for you, no effort needed! they stick a huuuuge needle in you, but you dont have to look and can barely feel it, you can just look the other way and read a mag or something for 15 minutes. Afterwards they give you another sugary drink and something to eat. last week i got a shiny new card sent in the mail saying i'm a blood donor biggrin go me!


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wonderloey


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Location: Melbourne - home of pirates

Total posts: 255
Posted:Pfft.. don't get me started on the blood donation rules in Oz...

I have several friends who would love to donate but can't... For whatever reason...

But I love watching it all ooze out.. Its actually a lot of fun!

As for anaemia, I donate regularly to keep an eye on my own haemoglobin levels, that way i get to make sure i'm still healthy.


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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Total posts: 3556
Posted:i can't donate, well, maybe i can in a week or so
don't way enough
have *extraneous* chemicals in my blood


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Igirisujin
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

Igirisujin

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Location: Preston, United Kingdom

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Posted:Female to female sex is allowed because of the way things go physicly, lesbian sex is the most safe kind of sex you can have with very little chance of anything spreading (other than genital warts or thrush of some sort hehe)

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Doc Lightning
GOLD Member since May 2001

Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

Total posts: 13920
Posted:What I don't get is why he couldn't donate just before the case rather than having to stop in the middle of it all.



Oh...and I've met this surgeon, albeit very briefly. He works at Montefiore Medical Center, which is our sister hospital.

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_Aime_
SILVER Member since Jan 2004

_Aime_

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Location: Hastings, United Kingdom

Total posts: 4172
Posted: Written by: Brit_Joe


Female to female sex is allowed because of the way things go physicly, lesbian sex is the most safe kind of sex you can have with very little chance of anything spreading (other than genital warts or thrush of some sort hehe)



Are you forgetting Chlamydia? tongue


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Posted:no, we dont dont talk about that wink

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FoxInDocs
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

FoxInDocs

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Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia

Total posts: 1848
Posted:
Mr M, do you know if having herpies stops you from being able to donate in oz? i know it asked me on the form when i went in last time but i couldn't donate anyways cuz of a new or infected pericing or something... I've never had a coldsore, but it doesn't mean i don't have herpies... but it made me think "there goes another 1/3 of the population"


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Beth


Beth

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Location: Cornwall & Oxford

Total posts: 1262
Posted:I give blood regularly but since i went to Mali and had loads of innoculations, i cant give blood for another 8 months frown

But everyone should do it!


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted: Written by: Brit_Joe


eek Eek thats abit shockingly irrisponsible, you cant just go giving blood without going through the usuall procedures first though, what would the world come too if that was the norm



Yes, its shockingly irresponsible to save a childs life. Of course it is.

rolleyes


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Kyrian


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Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted: Written by: Doc Lightning


What I don't get is why he couldn't donate just before the case rather than having to stop in the middle of it all.




If I were going to guess I would say they'd rather try and do the surgery with a surgeon who has *not* just donated blood, given lightheadedness/ other side effects...

I mean we all know surgeons are superhuman but better not to stack the odds. What I don't get is why we couldn't find a nurse or somebody with the same/ a useful blood type....


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Posted: Written by: foxindocks

herpes?



i checked the australian red cross blood service website and they didnt have anything about herpes, if you really want to know i suppose you could call the information hotline.

 Written by: kyrian

What I don't get is why we couldn't find a nurse or somebody with the same/ a useful blood type....



the article said both the child and the surgeon had (i think) B+ blood type, this is the second rarest blood type after AB-, which would mean they couldnt find enough elligable donors and thats why their stocks ran out causing the surgeon to need to donate.


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Kyrian


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Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:B-, maybe? Because if you're + you can take - blood, but not the other way around.

If you had AB- blood you'd be in pretty ok shape tho, cos you can take any negative blood, now imagine having O-.....

Pretty crazy set of coincidences when you consider it tho!!


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Doc Lightning
GOLD Member since May 2001

Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

Total posts: 13920
Posted: Written by: Kyrian


I mean we all know surgeons are superhuman but better not to stack the odds. What I don't get is why we couldn't find a nurse or somebody with the same/ a useful blood type....



Honestly, Kyri, I've run across some O- and even A-, but never a B-. I think I've only ever seen a B+ once or twice.

If the best match for the patient is available, then you should use it. Although that would never be allowed in the US.


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