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I don't think it was just the standard of spinning that newbies are intimidated by, its also the strong social circles that have been built up over the years.



Even though no one intends to appear cliquey, it does appear that way to those who aren't in the thick of it. Aside from asking for tips, how can an outsider possibly break the ice? Spinning is usually what we all have in common but how can one discern how to carry the initial 'how are you?'/'who are you on HOP'/'How can I do this?' into something that can carry into a social conversation?



Established HOPpers can also be seen as the equivalent of celebrities so someone who has never met a particular HOPper can feel a bit star-struck and slightly conscious about trying not to appear too sycophantic.



Not to put down the fine art of heckling but such heckling can be quite intimidating too. I totally understand that it's friendly jibing but again to a newbie, if someone who is excellent can still be the target of heckling, what chance do the confidence of newbies have?



too at the amount of litter.



I think the disappointment and lack of activity just came from everyone missing the other HOPpers who couldn't make it. You have to admit the turnout has been decimated by about 50% this one...

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

Fire Staff �27, Paraffin �10... setting yourself alight, Priceless!

No need to be intimidated by the older skool HoPpers, after all, most of us have only been involved for a couple of years...
After all, this is not a hobby where people go to "out do" each other... Chutney for example is the best staller/releaser i've seen, Jon just does, Durbs is so unassuming, Garthy is just sex on a stick... the only arrogant git I know is Cantus

As I have said on many occasions, this hobby is about doing sh*t that looks cool... I'll never forget my first HoP engaged Glastonbury, where Jon and Bov were doing some uber technical stuff, but the big crowd was around one girl doing the weave... Just do what feels right, and feels fun. No-one is the "best spinner" they just do stuff that looks, and feels, good.

its about Fire and Fun, as soon as we forget that, then the art is gone, and next thing you'll see it on Blue Peter...

ohmygodlaserbeamspewpewpew!

Fire Staff �27, Paraffin �10... setting yourself alight, Priceless!

Hell yes Mr.Widd! Organise it and we shall come (in flocks)

Cake or Death?

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

I can kind of see what people mean about social circles, but i really think it also has a lot to do with location and what events you go to... Now, so many UK meets are really really big, and you just can't expect to meet and have a decent conversation with everyone. you need more time for that. it's really ambitious to go to a meet with say 500 people like Play and think you will go home knowing the name and vital statistics of everyone of them. even though Falmouth (gwithian) was a lot smaller, it's still a not very long period of time to get to know a relatively large number of people... so give it a chance, generally HoPpers are the most open and friendly people i've ever met, and although we might know each other through the forum and whatever, actually meeting people is completely different...

i also think if this "HoP celeb" idea could be removed from people's heads, it would be easier for everybody, at the end of the day we're all just people who like spinning.

i don't know if that's an explanation or what, but i do know my brain was already on the verge of crashing after the first night, and it doesn't work weekends...

and yay! mr widd, you have beach, i come

Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006

if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.

 Written by: *HyperLight

Cantus for not being too miffed at me not remembering who you are - you rock dude



Rock might be an over statement. I remember swaying quite often. And i fell off a hill at one point....

I'm just glad you didn't get as cross as that Chutney chap did when i was critical about them flashy things



 Written by: idancelikeatwatme


if any red,green or blue plastic pegs were found, they were more than likely from me...some were passed on to others, mainly steaks, for use though. that guy has amazingly good technique! cantus however, does not!


Is it because I tend to say things like "can you hold still and look over there? I'm just trying to peg you..."

I can imagine that sort of thing might give me away



 Written by: =Flashpoint=

the only arrogant git I know is Cantus


Now are you confusing me being thinner/better looking/generally nicer than you with arrogance?

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

i can't do isolations either

i really enjoyed myself, i can understand people's criticisims but as it was my first falmouth i didnt have super high expectations.

the only thing that me off were the seagulls.

They pooed on my tent and dive bombed it to get to the daddy long legs

Owner of Dragosani's right side.

That was an excellent weekend! Very chilled out, just what I needed. Only sorry I missed Friday night on the beach due to, um, overindulging shall we say, during the day and passing out in my tent



many many thanks to: maus for organising things (will make an effort to say hello properly next time rather than just wordlessly handing over money for firewood and wandering off again), asena and freya for keeping me entertained and on a sugar rush during the journeys, anyone who gave me advise on getting the 5-beat weave and not laughing too much when I caught myself right where I didn't want to, mags for everything he did and introducing me to ultimate frisbee (still a bit sore from that), Non for being the first person ever to peg me, anyone who entertained me with music and everyone for giving me ideas on what I can do next and being pretty gosh darned cool all round

Chaos is the natural state of the universe

Some days I'm the pigeon, some days I'm the statue.

honourary militant margerine ninJAH

If it wasn't for displacement activity I wouldn't get half as much done

"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"

I'm usually quite animal loving and wouldn't even hurt a fly but the about of daddy long legs was ridiculous you'd think they had a group booking at the campsite as well...

Monserat, hope you enjoyed the peanut butter I brought especialluy for you(!)

A few pics uploaded to my gallery...

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

Chaos is the natural state of the universe

Some days I'm the pigeon, some days I'm the statue.

honourary militant margerine ninJAH

If it wasn't for displacement activity I wouldn't get half as much done

Well doesnt Mags sound like he had fun



Personally i had a great weekend, not the best of "falmouth meets" by far, but then to be fair it does have a lot to live up to for all you old skoolers - change is a must in some respects as "the norm" will always start to get boring. If you notice, all of the people that have been to lots of falmouths thought it "so so," where as all the new kids on the block loved it go figure



The only problem i found was it was tooo short, i have usually had a good 5 days to enjoy down that way this time it was 2 - and when you stay up until the sun comes up it kinda makes you miss out on the day time still - im very much a nocturnal creature



Im a bit miffed by the conversation about "newbies being shite" where did that come from Durbs - who had the conversation?

I remember a conversation with mags, myself and you where it was mentioned that the level of spinning here was not as high as previous meets due to all the "old skool slackers" that didnt make it and it was suggested that there should be a "over 2000 posts only meet" to raise the standerd it was clearley just an observation and a joke............ id be sad to hear if it was this that put linda off...........



Still, on a brighter note - the weaher was super sweeet, the people i saw always looked happy....... and just for the record, Hyperlight and Chutney would make a great couple



No more falmouth...........pfft as if







(PS to brighten this post up even more - i have just had delivered a prototype aerotech ultimate staff for a good testing! - ill be bringing it to bistol!)

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

It's just called 'WholeEarth Crunchy Peanut butter' you can get it from most supermarkets and healthfood shops now. Some supermarkets even do their own brand of Wholenut Crunchy Peanut butter. Shop around!

Was making peanutbutter and/or jam sandwichs in the car on the way down!

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

 Written by: Neon_Shaolin

'WholeEarth Crunchy Peanut butter'


Ah, a man with taste.. I can't stand any other kind of peanut butter now. I could eat whole-earth by the jar though!

 Written by: strugz

For the record, Hyperlight and Chutney would make a great couple


I hold Chutney entirely responsible for the reputation we appear to have gained... Just wait 'till I get him home! ...oh dear

Cake or Death?

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

 Written by: Neon_Shaolin


Even though no one intends to appear cliquey, it does appear that way to those who aren't in the thick of it. Aside from asking for tips, how can an outsider possibly break the ice? Spinning is usually what we all have in common but how can one discern how to carry the initial 'how are you?'/'who are you on HOP'/'How can I do this?' into something that can carry into a social conversation?

Established HOPpers can also be seen as the equivalent of celebrities so someone who has never met a particular HOPper can feel a bit star-struck and slightly conscious about trying not to appear too sycophantic.




I think you hit the nail on the head my friend.
Due to my eagerness to learn so much, i have watched the same few people pop up in different videos and conversations, and i have learnt a huge amount from them, but never met them.
This was my first big hop meet, and to see 4 or 5 of them (i wont mention names) pop up on the wiki, was really good.
Unfortunately i only managed to / had the guts to speak to one, and im normally a very confident person.


i think as far as people being too intimidated to spin, its probably partly to do with the fact that those people are going to be watching.

I dont personally feel its avoidable, however, as has been said before, workshops are a fantastic icebreaker.

Cant wait for the next event, im gonna jump on every hopper and force them to have a conversation against thier will

"This dark place planet Earth, orbits one star,
Come from afar, far away state of mind,
open up your third eye, black helicopters in the sky"

hah! dont pull the angry face matthew!



you know you'd love to be jumped on!

Owner of Dragosani's right side.

 Written by: sketch


... workshops are a fantastic icebreaker.



Quite. I really liked the workshop-orientatedness of Play. Like meeting Kev in the body popping workshop, since he was one of the first people I'd seen doing double-LED-staff at a Glastonbury years ago. Great to eventually talk to him

 Written by: sketch


Cant wait for the next event, im gonna jump on every hopper and force them to have a conversation against thier will



Ohhh I'm so up for that, hehehehehe

oOo
You see, you already know circle-theory,
you just don't *know* that you know.

tHeReS gOoD aNd EvIl iN EaCh InDiViDuAl fIrE, iDeNtIfIeS nEeDs AnD fEeDs OuR dEsIrEs.

*Pulls up a seat next to Vixen*

Want some popcorn Vix? It was good to finally talk to you properly... Need more oogling partners Though you will do very nicely...

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

tHeReS gOoD aNd EvIl iN EaCh InDiViDuAl fIrE, iDeNtIfIeS nEeDs AnD fEeDs OuR dEsIrEs.