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Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

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Posted:Hello all.



I don't often have much to offer by the way of new or interesting ideas, but hopefully this will set a few cogs turning smile



'Stands' as I have come to call them are the result of accidents discovered when messing with releases- I'm sure many have inadvertently done them, but I thought I'd try and push them as a 'trick' in their own right.



SO- the idea is that you would pull off a stand (in this version at least) by spinning 1 poi right handclockwise (BF plane). Usually I would release this under an outstretched left arm around which it would circle and them return to be caught on the right hand side by the right hand.



Standing the poi means a different approach to the release, letting go later and giving the (probably best counterweighted) handle a flick. If you spin the head under the opposite arm and to the point where the head is at about 10-11 o clock, gently contact catch it on the back of the left hand whilst releasing and flicking the handle.



If done correctly you get a lazy stalled poi, standing on the back of your hand, slowly rotating on to be caught or moved further.



I can get close to a nice affect with my right hand relasing, but so far I have yet to take the principle further (for example doing the same thing on the legs?)



Ideas?

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DeepSoulSheep
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Posted:Do you conatct catch the head or the handle.

You have given me a lot of ideas anyway.
I now want to land the head on the back of my hand and catch the handle at 12 o'clock.... maybe that's what you mean....

You'll drive me mad I tell you.... smile


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Dunc
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Posted:Did you see me doing these at Falmouth? Been at them for quite a while now and like you found them by accident.



If you get your props nice Chut you can change the prop so you go from Prop to "Stand" to Prop on the same/other arm.



I like the name stand smile



You should see how long you can make them stand for. You can get a surprisingly long time if you start high and end low smile Or if you start low and then continue the circle up-across-down with your left hand it's a really nice looking move



There's discussion in here somewhere about these, I'll be damned if I can find it tho or remember the terms to search, I think it was Glass who was on about them.....



And remembering your poi.....use longer ones for exagerated effect smile hug

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Mr_Chutney
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Posted:How random- I figured they were already known, just hadn't really seen them mentioned (but them I'm not terribly old skool smile)

I didn't see you playing with them at Fal, though I did have a bit of a play with them myself down there on Sunday in the pub beer garden. Oh well, something to try and collar you for at Play (are you going to have any time to you think, or are you going to be the shadow that you were at the last one- I know you were darned busy smile )

As for the length of my poi- yeah, I know what you're saying, but I'm getting into all sorts of contacty stuff and with a bit of effort they're working just fine- always been a bit of a short poi bod smile


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TheBovrilMonkey
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Posted: Written by: Mr Chutney


Ideas?



Yep - do them antispin wink tongue

If I'm understanding the text right, I might have seen Dom doing something similar, they look pretty damned cool.


But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Posted:i dont really understand confused

T wave


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Dunc
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Posted:Tom, when you release a poi most of the time the handle rotates around the head yeah (more so with weighted handles) Now imagine that the head stayed perfectly still while the tail rotates around during the throw.



If the head was sat on the back of your hand while the tail rotated that'd be what Chut is on about smile



Bov...antispin isn't really any harder than normal tongue Which makes a nice change! ubblol



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oli
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Posted:do them on your forehead... looks sweet .. only works sometimes though...

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Posted:I forgot I saw you do them on your forehead at Falmouth!! tee hee hee, it was funny watching you smack yourself in the face...repeatedly ubblol have you tried doubles off your forehead yet?

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Dut
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Posted: Written by: Mr Chutney





Ideas?





wave your hand around underneath like you're fishtailing it!! biggrin



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do much contact juggling?

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Posted:ahh, i get it, nice move.

*sigh* one day i guess im gonna have to weight my handles...

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TheWibbler
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Posted:Sweet as, will definitely play with this, i second the name 'stands', but then would that make it a 'Hand Stand' lol, or oli's 'Head Stand'

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Dunc
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Posted:head stand, hand stand, foot stand, leg stand, or even a mic stand, band stand or a mexican stand off ubblol

Chut, I hearby issue you with the request, neigh, the command, to do a stand workshop at PLAY smile That'll give you something to get yer teeth stuck into over the next couple months wink


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Mr_Chutney
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Posted:Oooooh you git biggrin

I'm not good at them, I just wanted to ecourage playing with them smile

Maybe I'll do a stalls workshop and put stands in as a bonus extra? wink


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Posted:biggrin You have two months to get good at them wink

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Posted:It would be very, very nice if you could pull off a hand stand with the head, and then a stand on the other hand with the handle, keeping the poi spinning in the same direction the whole time.

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Posted:eh? confused

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Motley
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Posted:I've been attempting something similar recently although trying to "stand" the poi on my head. I've had varying degrees of sucess but i cant seem to get them consistant, seems to look pretty cool if u can pull it off tho, I'll have to have a go standing on my hands.. umm... the poi that is, not me ubblol

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Posted:runs away to decide what a "Mexican Stand Off" should look like!

yeah ive been playing with these, very weird and very fun!!!


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gizmo2009
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Posted:same here,, ive been "standing" one on the peak of my hat lol.. but those hand stands sound great ,,

*runs off to try a cpl of hand stands* :P


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Posted:I can get it to stand on my shoulder from a BTB release, and on top of the head is by far the greatest, I think because of the trajectory it works better. It is a trick to get the handle to rotate like that, easier with weighted handles.

dont make peoples heads turn, give them whiplash.

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Posted:*note* stands are not so good when doing fire poi.... smile

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Posted:Elbow stands are officially cool. There. I said it.

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Posted: Written by: fireNice


*note* stands are not so good when doing fire poi.... smile



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Posted: Written by: fireNice



*note* stands are not so good when doing fire poi.... smile





*goes and buys a kevlar hat* biggrin biggrin



P.S. Dunc where did you get those funky kevlar arms I saw Chutney using at Fal, I'd be interested in getting my hands (arms) on some of those!



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Posted:I get them from my work wink we use a lot of sheet steel so they have them to protect them from getting slashed every day.

I'm sure next time I'm around I'll have a few pairs on me, I usually do, so just badger me for a pair smile


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Posted:psssssst, motley



i got mine from there back in the day (well actually, off of a friend who, like dunc, 'borrowed some from work' for us, but its similar wink).





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Posted:These are a wicked move indeed....

i had the pleasure of watching Chutney play with these outside the pub at falmouth..........

Just before watching him and beth whipcatch everything thrown at them......... far too talented! cool

or was it just before duballstar had to ride the whale........ confused i cant remember.........

So what about "anti-stands" wink

and will you call them - headstands / handstands / footstands?

Or is that just confusing ubblol

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Posted: Written by: Dunc


head stand, hand stand, foot stand, leg stand, or even a mic stand, band stand or a mexican stand off ubblol



nowhere near silly enough it seems strugz! ubblol

i was playing with inverse hand stands last night - they're much easier wink


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Posted:Thanks guys!

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Posted: Written by: Dunc


 Written by: fireNice


*note* stands are not so good when doing fire poi.... smile



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