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 Written by: Jason Garfield


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The bliss Diss Explained
(Keep in mind, you came here upon your own free will and can very easily leave whenever you want.)

chris bliss's juggling skill is...not good. The most impressive thing he did was juggle for a long time and not drop. The juggling was not difficult at all and it's not surprising that he did not drop, so it's not that anyone should be amazed that he didn't drop. But if you're looking for the most impressive thing that he did in a routine chock full of unimpressive elements, it would be that he didn't drop. He calls it the big finally. I don't even understand why he juggles at all. His 3 ball skill is fair, good enough to make it three or four minutes without dropping. The world record for juggling 3 balls is over 11 hours, and the most difficult thing about that is staying awake and peeing.

What I think people are responding to in his routine is the choreography to the song, regardless of how many times he repeated the same simple loop of tricks. People can't tell the difference so he knows he can get away with that. If it goes to the music and he doesn't drop, that's a good routine if the people also like the song. He chose parts in the music where people would clap anyway if the song were performed live to start his full body convulsion tricks. He also makes the easy tricks look hard. Maybe they are hard for him, but he's not executing them with good form at all. I suppose his goal was to make it obvious that it was choreographed to the music which is why he jerked his body around along with the juggling to the beat. it almost looks like a parody of someone else's artistic interpretation of whatever. It's fine if people are entertained by this. But they should not assume he is a good juggler just because he kind of juggled to the music with three balls. A perfect example of how little people know about juggling is that one of his strongest audience response points was when he JUST juggled the BASIC pattern. Something I could get ANYONE with basic motor skills, not even great ones, to do in under an hour. BUT, he did it when the music got soft and went just to piano, so it went with the music. If you know the song, that's not -NOT hard to work out. So something in there is worth clapping for to the audience on this video. He didn't do any 360s, he didn't do any ass catches, he did the very FIRST thing you learn when learning how to juggle and he got applause you'd expect to hear for 5 club backcrosses. (Juggling 5 clubs all behind your back) Ideally I would like everyone to know as much about juggling as I do. They don't have to think the way that I do, but just know what I know and then choose what they like with the knowledge that I have and understand why they like what they're watching and know what it is that they're watching and not email me links of chris bliss and then ask me what I think because they should already know. If everyone in his audience had seen the ball juggling competition on ESPN, I believe the audience reaction would not have been so great. And I believe that if chris bliss knew that everyone in the audience had seen the juggling competition on ESPN, he might just leave the juggling out altogether.

Choreographing a 3 ball juggling routine to music is not difficult. You can play any song that I've never heard, and I could juggle three balls to it and make up the choreography as I went along and it would look similar to the chris bliss routine except there would be difficult tricks and I wouldn't look like Leslie Neilson. There's so much room to make adjustments to the timing with three balls that you can almost always adjust it to go with the music.

Choreographing a juggling routine with 5 balls usually consists of timing your 15-20 five ball moves to certain points in the music that start with the music change but the juggling rarely goes to the music on every beat because there's just too much going on. And when trying to choreograph a 5 ball routine to the same music and in a similar way that a 3 ball routine was choreographed, it's like playing a song on the piano only with three times as many notes but to the same tempo as the original version. Now I could easily make up my own 5 ball routine and choreograph it to this music the way a 5 ball routine made up of the tricks I can already do would be put together, but it would look completely different. So i've had to create and learn new tricks that I've never done before, incorporating multiplex patterns (throwing more than one ball out of one hand at a time), and creating loops of sequences that kind of go to the music, similar to the Leslie Neilson routine. The hardest part was figuring out how to create the new moves, and making them go to the music with five balls. Really, the hardest part was having to watch chris bliss over and over again to memorize how many times he repeated a sequence and at which points he started bouncing around like a dangling monkey. I didn't feel comfortable compromising my form to duplicate the spine breaking posture of his one sided backcrosses, and some sequences I just had to label as freaking out with no apparent difference in the juggling pattern, but lots of muppet seizure movement. The multiplex patterns were required in order to hit the beats to the music as frequently as chris bliss attempted. There was lots of clawing (Snatching the balls as you would to keep someone from taking them away from you before you get to them), slowing down and speeding up of the pattern to hit some of the drum fills, and again the freaking out parts which are the most entertaining parts of this routine for me to watch because it almost makes you think that the whole routine is already a parody. And if it is, then I apologize for letting that sneak past me. If chris bliss told me that this routine was a parody, I'd start capitalizing his name and enjoy watching the whole routine. But he labels this routine as the big finish, he's billed as a world class juggler, and there's no set up for it to be a parody. And I don't know why it had to last so long. If he did every trick without a repeat he would have been done in less than a minute. Perhaps it was the juggling version of a song, where tricks are repeated like the chorus. But I don't think he meant it as a parody, I wish he did, but I think this is supposed to be art. People seem to like it, but I think that's because they just don't have all the information that would enable them to make a more informed decision. If you watch the ice skating competitions in the Olympics, I don't think you're going to appreciate some douche bag skating in circles and tapping his toes, chipping out pieces of ice to the beat of a Beetles song. But maybe that would be good to the right song. I don't like his routine at all, except for when he bounces around a lot. But he doesn't need the juggling for that.

 Written by: Ry


Ok, just watched Jason Garfield's take on it. Was impressive, but his going on about how much Chris Bliss sucked lemons kinda spoiled it for me. Well, spoiled both videos for me now.

Willy - is bad for your health...

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I had a dream that my friend had a
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it was the book of my dreams.

 Written by: Tao Star


hmmm, i know how annoying it is when people don't appreciate a really good trick, or think they're great cos they can do somehting rubbish really fast, but like i said, this isn't just someone at a poi gatherning, it's for entertainment.

if people are genuinely entertained by it, i don't see the problem, sorry! as far as i can see, he had a good idea and he sold it well. the audience certainly seemed to enjoy it. fair play to him.

Willy - is bad for your health...

There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees

 Written by: Tao Star



if people are genuinely entertained by it, i don't see the problem, sorry! as far as i can see, he had a good idea and he sold it well. the audience certainly seemed to enjoy it. fair play to him.

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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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