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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 992
Posted:regarding the following
 Written by:

The following message has been sent from ENApena via the "Meet others" database. ENApena will not know your email address unless you decide to contact them. You can contact them if you wish to at bodesia@gmail.com

"Hi, Are you intersted in coming to Bulgaria for a Fire Festival - there will be fire people from Bulgaria, UK, Hungary, and other European countries.All aiming to exchange skills, culture and good vibes.There will be workshops and different tents and lots of fire people :-) Your expenses will be covered by us - 70% of your travel expenses, and free accommodation in a forest villa and free food.Bring your friends as well. Offer goes for them too. Dates are from 1st to 7th August 2006. The place is the slopes of Pirin mountain. Contact me for more information, Love & Peace ENA"




All sounds too good to be true with too much for free and looks like you only have to pay 30% of your own travel costs!!!!

I do not know who else this person has contacted but it seems weird to me. I can not find any other details about this festival and it really sounds like a scam.

Upon looking up "Bulgaria travel scam" on google I found the following on the Bulgaria - US Consular Information Sheet
 Written by:

Potential travelers should also be cautious about making credit card charges over the Internet because recent experience has shown that some offers come from scam artists posing as legitimate businesses. Travelers should also be careful about making credit card payments to Bulgarian tour operators over the Internet before coming to Bulgaria because some entities listed there do not actually exist.



From http://www.bulgariantourism.com/info/consular1.php


"May your balls always burn"

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FlameChild
FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...
Member Since: 23rd Jun 2002
Total posts: 136
Posted:There is no such thing as a free lunch!
Thanks for the heads up, man!


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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Adya Miriyana
Adya Miriyana

*slou?
Location: Adelaide
Member Since: 4th Feb 2005
Total posts: 6554
Posted:thanks for putting the word out.

on a similar note, i received this email:
 Written by: penda edward


My dear and complements of the season! How are you doing over there.Hope fine, my name is Miss Penda.From South Sudan in Africa.
I am a young single pretty girl, never married, I am a member of this homeofpoi dating site, i saw your profile here and i carefully read your personal data.
I am here in dakar to collect and deposit my wealth to any Western Country, Middle east or Asia for investment, hence after going through your profile i hereby seek your hands in partnership for a reasonable compensation of 10% of my wealth for your effort before commencement of investment. If you can handle the investment of my wealth do contact me for detailed information.
I am self-confidence that your are the real type i need in my life as it concerns the investment of my money. Hence i will need you to give me your your full names, address and personal telephone numbers.
Am waiting to receiving your quick reply.
Yours Sincerely.
Miss Penda Edward



either there's something we haven't been told about HoP's dating service wink, or watch out for people using it for other purposes


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FIREBOY4209
FIREBOY4209

The lone Fire Spinner
Location: Channel islands Jersey UK
Member Since: 12th Jan 2005
Total posts: 236
Posted:Agreed. Sounds like a complete scam to me.
Thanks for the warning.


To play it safe is not to play

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roarfire
roarfire

comfortably numb
Location: The countryside
Member Since: 8th Jul 2004
Total posts: 2676
Posted:Thankyou Malcolm! smile

.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.

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Sporky
Sporky

addict
Location: Glasgow
Member Since: 25th Jul 2005
Total posts: 663
Posted:Thanks for the warning Malcolm smile

Its nice to know that HoP's daddy is looking out for us wink


Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't

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linden rathen
linden rathen

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 2nd Mar 2005
Total posts: 6942
Posted: Written by: Adya Miriyana


thanks for putting the word out.

on a similar note, i received this email:
 Written by: penda edward


My dear and complements of the season! How are you doing over there.Hope fine, my name is Miss Penda.From South Sudan in Africa.
I am a young single pretty girl, never married, I am a member of this homeofpoi dating site, i saw your profile here and i carefully read your personal data.
I am here in dakar to collect and deposit my wealth to any Western Country, Middle east or Asia for investment, hence after going through your profile i hereby seek your hands in partnership for a reasonable compensation of 10% of my wealth for your effort before commencement of investment. If you can handle the investment of my wealth do contact me for detailed information.
I am self-confidence that your are the real type i need in my life as it concerns the investment of my money. Hence i will need you to give me your your full names, address and personal telephone numbers.
Am waiting to receiving your quick reply.
Yours Sincerely.
Miss Penda Edward



either there's something we haven't been told about HoP's dating service wink, or watch out for people using it for other purposes



i got one of those a while ago - laughed sooo much smile im alwats tempted to reply from a fake address with fake info just to see what they do - wonder if they'd spot buckingham palace ... hmmmm devil


back

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DoktorSkell
DoktorSkell

addict
Location: Van Diemans Land
Member Since: 11th Jan 2005
Total posts: 475
Posted:Do it

Fair luna bright, fair luna moon
it shines at night but fades too soon
fair luna moon, fair luna bright
forever we dance
we dance under starlight

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kepki2003
kepki2003

Member
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Member Since: 15th Dec 2004
Total posts: 34
Posted:I got one of those email about 6 months ago. I actually made a fake email and replied. They wanted my bank account number to send me money for some guy that was stuck in some african country, so naturally I tried to get their bank account number. I strung them or who ever it was along for about 3 months then they suddenly stopped replying.

Spin More Poi!!!

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Hanz
Hanz

veteran
Location: Bendigo, Vic, Australia
Member Since: 7th Jun 2004
Total posts: 1328
Posted:Home of Poi is a dating site now??? w00t!!!

Thanks for giving us a heads up though Malcolm, yay for our HoP daddy! always knew he looked out for our safety


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Lotus81
Member
Location: Omaha, NE
Member Since: 21st Jul 2005
Total posts: 12
Posted:Thanks for the look out smile
Another forum setup very similar to this one has been getting hit pretty hard with the same kind of stuff. Must be that time of year..

~Lotus


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GothFrogette
GothFrogette

grumpy poorly froggy
Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
Total posts: 3999
Posted:i guess its back to the whole saying.... if it sounds too good to be true... it usualy is.

thanks for the heads up


Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows

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danino
Member

Member Since: 15th Apr 2005
Total posts: 1
Posted:hi people
for the first time i am in this forum and thanks to malcolm
who informed me about this so called 'fire festival' in my own country...YES i am from BULGARIA!!!so far i haven't hear about anything like this.like i red,you don't believe it and you should not.it's pity to say but i know how the thing are going here...
thank you one more time malcolm and i'll try to fix this thing...i think i know who posted this crap!!!
greeitngs and regards from ussualy nice Bulgaria!


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venetiapoi
Member

Member Since: 12th Aug 2005
Total posts: 1
Posted:Hmm, maybe we should organise something like this, it does sound to good to be true, maybe Jim will fix it!

Here's Hoping.


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Firetramp
Firetramp

old hand
Location: Binstead, Isle of Wight
Member Since: 5th Sep 2005
Total posts: 896
Posted:It does sound too good to be true but it's not a bad idea to organise something like it! One day...

Ask a question and be a fool for a minute...don't ask and be a fool your whole life.

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Indeed the lovely Ben received one such not so long ago. Posted about it here but the thread vanished. I thought he must have disappeared with the lovely Miss Penda...

Meanwhile, yeah somebody want to pay 70% of my travel expenses ?
I'm game! biggrin


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Gnor
Gnor

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Perth
Member Since: 31st Mar 2003
Total posts: 5814
Posted:What did happen to that thread and where is Ben wink

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu

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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:um.. i've been to several fire festivals where a significant proportion of travel has been covered. so this seems a little hasty. have you tried contacting them?

R


Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:But your Bluecat. For some reason, people will pay to fly you out and nap on their couch.

wink


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 992
Posted:Last night they also sent out the following but this time a rock festival
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The following message has been sent from ENA via the "Meet others" database. ENA will not know your email address unless you decide to contact them. You can contact them if you wish to at bodesia@gmail.com

"Hi, I'd like to invite you to a rock festival with live bands in the Pirin Mountain in Bulgaria, where there will be lots of fire spinners from Bulgaria, UK, Slovakia, Greece, Poland and other countries.Its at the end of july this year. Your and your friends' travel costs covered 70% plus free food and stay for up to 6-7 days. Interested?Tell your friends too! Ask me :-) Love and Peace"
___________________________________


"May your balls always burn"

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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:Maybe it's a cult. They fly you over, feed you up, drug you then convince you that we have reptillian overlords who's appetite for firedancers must be satisfied.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.


HoP Posting Guidelines
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
If you can answer YES to these 4 questions then you may post a reply.

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted: Written by: flash fire


Maybe it's a cult.



And we're not? wink


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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Birgit
Birgit

had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
Location: Edinburgh
Member Since: 27th Jan 2005
Total posts: 4145
Posted:I always wanted a reptilian overlord. Gul Dukat or something. ubblol

Apparently Bulgaria has nice beaches at the Black Sea, or so I'm told...


"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:They have great ski slopes...

biggrin


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Borislav
newbie

Member Since: 30th Jan 2006
Total posts: 19
Posted:This girl (Ena) have written something about this event in our Bulgarian fire spinnig forum, giving little information and also explaining that the money for the costs will be covered by a fund from the Europena Union. May be you don't know, but the recent years the European Union have been giving lots of money for different programs.

The administrator of our forum is cheking the whole thing about this festival, because he have some contact with this girl (yes, she exists) and we will keep you informed about this festival.

PS: I hope that the whole thing is not a scam.


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Birgit
Birgit

had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
Location: Edinburgh
Member Since: 27th Jan 2005
Total posts: 4145
Posted:Thanks Borislav!

If it's not a scam, it's very very brilliant!!


"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)

Owner of Dragosani's left half

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ENApena
ENApena

Member

Member Since: 3rd Mar 2006
Total posts: 12
Posted:Hi,
I know it sounds too good to be true, but its not a scam!
We are a group of young people who want to make poi and all similar arts more popular in Europe and Bulgaria in particular.
The idea was to join a local Rock Festival that runs every year, but soon after we took this decision the rock fans organisers said NO!
So, we took the idea on a bigger plane, and now we are organising a separate special event, we called - Fire Festival.
We have a project through the Youth Program in the European Community, who will pay 70% of the travel expenses of all the participants coming from abroad, as well as their food and accommodation. The fest will be running for 3 days in total - between 1st and 7th August. The accommodation and food will be covered for 7 days and for the time before and after the festival within these days we are planning to do street shows, poi/staff workshops and walks in the mountain as the place is close to the Pirin mountain.
We are able to invite so far a total of 55 fire people from all countries.
If you need more info, pleasde contact me on bodesia@gmail.com


Freedom to dissolve; to lift off; to be like the flame of a candle, which, in spite of being up against the light of a billion stars, remains intact, because it never pretended to be more than what it is: a mere candle

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:umm

bounce

Is anyone else interested in going?


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pounce
pounce

All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all a...
Member Since: 10th Jan 2003
Total posts: 9831
Posted:hmmm....i'm interested smile

I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

**giggles**

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ENApena
ENApena

Member

Member Since: 3rd Mar 2006
Total posts: 12
Posted:By the way, there is a group of friends of mine - staff spinners from Brighton UK - coming to the Fire Festival in Bulgaria. If you are from the UK and want to come over, bare it in mind!
:-)


Freedom to dissolve; to lift off; to be like the flame of a candle, which, in spite of being up against the light of a billion stars, remains intact, because it never pretended to be more than what it is: a mere candle

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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:biggrin
soo glad
biggrin

i'll talk to the girls and see if they're up for a saunter over bulgaria-wards biggrin

R


Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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