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Dom
Dom

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bristol, UK
Member Since: 19th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3009
Posted:Welcome to the new look Home of Poi!



You may need to hit refresh a couple of times, especially on the board. If the menu is white then this is probably the reason. hopefully!



Also note that the board has different display options that can be set in the Display Settings page. I'm still testing them all but there are a couple of options that might appeal to people:

HoP Alternate: different link colours and greyer (!)

HoP Bigger Text: for larger text.

HoP (Old & Grey): for nostalgic reason

Everybody like different things and we'll be keeping an eye on how many people use each option, so your vote counts!



I'd like to clarify that the only thing that has changed is the look. The structure and function of Home of Poi is unchanged from what it was yesterday.



Why the change?

Malcolm's been talking about wanting to move away from the grey look for quite a while, but neither myself or others have been able to come up with a new look that worked. There was something historic about the grey that defied the desire to remove it. Then Malcolm and I finally sat side by side in front of a computer in the Home of Poi lounge and started looking into what could be done. The site works as is so we immediately decided to keep the structure intact and work closely with what we had.



The result is something I believe does everything that we set out to achieve: a simple and classic design that lightens your screen and presents Home of Poi in a more professional light whilst retaining the layout, style and functionality we're all used to.



We hope that you'll all agree that this is a good move forward, although we're well aware that many people don't like big changes and will take time to settle into the new look. But compared to the last couple of changes this has been a lot easier! That comfy sofa with a depression the shape of your butt is still right there, we're just thrown a new cover over it.



If you do see anything on the site that isn't right please PM Malcolm or me to let us know and we'll sort it out as soon as we can. We'll also be making the occasional tweak here and there as we go along. My main concern is that there's a herd of random characters in the code courtesy of Seven, the Home of Poi cat, who really didn't like being ignored when I was coding!



Once again, thank you all for making Home of Poi what it is: a community. And many thanks to Malcolm, Cherry and little Jesse who gets extra thanks for all crumbled biscuits, wooden blocks and DVDs he's presented me over the past week! Thanks to him I know most of the "Blue's Clues" songs!



Dom smile

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Ry
Ry

Gromit's Humble Squire
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Member Since: 2nd Feb 2005
Total posts: 4496
Posted:Written by: newgabe








The quotes do look a bit odd in the new 'default' skin. I never did like the old grey look. Depressing. (Honestly Ry!! Brighten up!!) or if it's too glary, turn the monitor glare down a bit... or try the *alternative* it's a bit duller...







Gabe: Monitor brightness or contrast should never have to be turned up or turned down on the basis of a single website. After calibration, that's how it's supposed to stay. Especially if whether you're in business rides on whether the images you see on your screen are true to the actual information there is in the data.



When I saw that much white screen upon logging on this morning, by reflex I felt the site was too bright in relation to other websites I visit, not to mention the way an image file displays correctly on my monitor. Anyway. I've switched it back to the old grey because it works for me.



ps. A link should help explain the problem, in terms of the parallel issue of colour management:

http://www.colorvision.ch/learnmore/


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LazyAngel
LazyAngel

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Cambridge UK
Member Since: 29th Jul 2004
Total posts: 2895
Posted:wow! what an amazing selection of settings! I was in shock for about 10 seconds when I logged on!

But ditto, I found the white stuff too bright (although I did try the other settings, wild was mad, greenday was quite nice) and now I'm back to good ol' grey!

Thanks for the choice though!


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Bird
Bird

now available in "advanced"
Location: Cornwall
Member Since: 25th Aug 2003
Total posts: 6086
Posted:First impressions--> big thumbs up from me!

I'll have a proper play around when I'm not at work, but it looks sweet!

Good work guys! hug


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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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Valura
Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Member Since: 25th Apr 2002
Total posts: 6391
Posted:biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

I like this.... I like this a lot! biggrin biggrin biggrin

*wiggles*

hug hug hug


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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Dom
Dom

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bristol, UK
Member Since: 19th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3009
Posted:Hi everyone!

Thanks for all your comments. We're not ignoring you, we've just had a really bad internet connection today & this evening. How backward is New Zealand?! They ain't had the broadband revolution yet and I'm really feeling it.

It's late o'clock here and we'll be going through all your posts, PMs and emails tomorrow to see what we need to do to keep most of the people happy some of the time. We'll probably work on the glare issue for the board. Anyone actually look at other parts of the site wink

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Hanz
Hanz

veteran
Location: Bendigo, Vic, Australia
Member Since: 7th Jun 2004
Total posts: 1328
Posted:just letting you know... Im back onto Old Grey

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Spanner
Spanner

remembers when it was all fields round here
Location: in the works... somewhere...
Member Since: 27th Feb 2003
Total posts: 2790
Posted:I particularly like the "Home of Poi and fire twirling" title background - very sophisticated cool

I'm finding the new font harder to get used to as I associated it as much with Home of Poi as the grey, but I'm sure it won't be long before I hardly notice the difference smile

A change is as good as a rest - though I suppose not if you're the hard working designers who have to do it ubblol

Thank you hug


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you are nice woman.

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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:In general it looks nice - HoP definitly did look pretty dated (unfortunately having the worst BB software of any site out there doesn't help). However the white background is definitely too bright and I'm not liking the Arial used in the comments. And the text in this box is too small wink

However this may just get me to write a Greasemonkey script to modify the site to how I want it wink

But definitely thumbs up overall!


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fNi
fNi

master of disaster
Location: New York
Member Since: 8th Mar 2004
Total posts: 3354
Posted:the man's....a man! no longer a stick figure ubblol

kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more

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roarfire
roarfire

comfortably numb
Location: The countryside
Member Since: 8th Jul 2004
Total posts: 2676
Posted:Can't say I'm a huge fan of the new look sorry! frown

But I can live with it smile


.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.

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Fine_Rabid_Dog
Internet Hate Machine
Location: They seek him here, they seek ...
Member Since: 26th May 2004
Total posts: 10530
Posted:I\'m back to the old gray as well. I guess it grew on me. smile

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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Gayle......!
Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol !!!!!!
Member Since: 9th Jul 2004
Total posts: 2444
Posted:i really like it. I use Greenday and there's not that many differences.

Gayle.....!

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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:Come on now people, now its so brilliant white it reminds me of very expensive labs. I could slip on my lab coat and experiment on you all ubblol How exciting would that be. Clinical HoP produces the first cloned Poi Spinner biggrin

Feed me Chocolate!!! Feed me NOW!

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Sethis
Sethis

Pooh-Bah
Location: York University
Member Since: 16th May 2005
Total posts: 1762
Posted:I never liked the old grey anyway... that's why I used the teal colour scheme (and still do). It looks pretty good with the new colours, but it's strange to see a different font in all the boxes. I think I preferred the old font.

My little thoughts. Still works for me! Well done! smile


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Boo_Bunny
Boo_Bunny

Sparkely arty Mormon rainbow fairy
Location: infront of you
Member Since: 18th Mar 2005
Total posts: 933
Posted:I like the new improved HoP. Its all swrily at the top and white at the bottom biggrin

the is one problem though. at the top where it says Home, Community, Articals, Go Shopping etc. they used to be in seprate tabs and now there all just one long line of words. 'tis a bit confusing.


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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:Try hitting the refresh button Boo.

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ben-ja-men
ben-ja-men

just lost .... evil init
Location: Adelaide
Member Since: 12th Jun 2003
Total posts: 2474
Posted:Written by: Skulduggery

Clinical HoP produces the first cloned Poi Spinner biggrin


i miss read that as Clinical HoP produces the first stoned Poi Spinner
ubblol

i like the new look im finding the new post colouring a bit hard to wrap my head around though, perhaps new posts could go back to the different colour system


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87wt2gxq7
87wt2gxq7

veteran
Location: Birmingham
Member Since: 12th Apr 2005
Total posts: 1502
Posted:I likes! I likes a lot!

Although I might have to change back to old and grey coz the new shiny contrasts sharply with the wallpaper on my work 'pooter. Don't want to attract attention unnecessarily when I'm goofing off on work's time. wink


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jeff(fake)
jeff(fake)

Scientist of Fortune
Location: Edinburgh
Member Since: 15th Apr 2005
Total posts: 1189
Posted:I leave for two day...TWO DAYS and the whole thing changes!!!

According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:On behalf of everyone (Whom I shouldn't really talk for) I can say to Dom and Malcom:

Whether or not we like all the changes, we certainly do appreciate the efforts.

biggrin


I think it is more consistant with other forums on the internet and therefore more welcoming to newbies. And giving us the option to change it is perfect. Everybody wins. smile


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Fine_Rabid_Dog
Internet Hate Machine
Location: They seek him here, they seek ...
Member Since: 26th May 2004
Total posts: 10530
Posted:ditto

biggrin


The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:(I feel a bit like I'm beta testing so excuse my 'report' type posts!)

I still am confused by the manner in which NewHoP denotes 'read' threads.

If you go to intros and haven't read the first 20 threads in a while they will alternate white/grey and the font is bold.

Then if you read one, the bold font changes to regular and the thread changes to white. The bold makes sense but the white/grey turning to white is confusing. I read Bluecat's intro which was originally white and it stayed white (granted the bold was gone) but then I read the thread above his and it turned from grey to white.

In short, when we HoPers are skimming it's nice to have a less visually confusing way of seeking out threads we haven't read.

If a thread is grey, I know I haven't read it. If it's white, I don't know. Again, I know about the boldness but that's harder to skim for than the grey which makes it confusing.

I hope I explained it better this time.

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spritie
spritie

Pooh-Bah
Location: Galveston, TX
Member Since: 9th Sep 2001
Total posts: 2014
Posted:I concur with NYC on the gray/white read issue. It's a tad confusing. It's also part of the reason that I went back to the HOP gray. The other reasons are that it isn't so bright on my screen and that I can get bigger text. The new font is kinda small, so I like the option of bigger text, but that still had the glaring white which for this early in the morning is more than my eyes wanted to deal with.

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:I slightly confused by what everyone says appears to have happened confused

I use, and will always use, the colouring style "desert".
Everything else either looks boring and depresing (grey) or makes me want to throw up (the one with all the uv colours) eek

This morning when I opened firefox, I saw the different title bit and went "oooooh". Theres a watermark picture with swirls in black and red. The bar below that is grey, and the bar below that is lilac/ light purple.
Theres also a new line going across the top of the page.

Apart from that, I cant see anything in bold or any white/ grey alternating lines. My lines are differnt shades of blue... shrug

Apart from that, everything pretty much looks the same... umm
What am I missing? frown


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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:If you're using Firefox and you'd like it a bit greyer...

Clicky

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:i never liked the grey... i had mines set to a kinda creamy and blue version.. that hasnt changed, except ive got a search gallery link now which is useful smile , the rest of the site looks very white though...

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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spritie
spritie

Pooh-Bah
Location: Galveston, TX
Member Since: 9th Sep 2001
Total posts: 2014
Posted:Ohhh...the search gallery is nifty! I like that one, thanks Malcolm & Dom!

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: UraniumChipOxidationFacility




I slightly confused by what everyone says appears to have happened confused



I use, and will always use, the colouring style "desert".





Well if you'd like to know what everyone is talking about then perhaps you could shift to the default setting for a second.



(Refrains from using the word "Dumbass" wink wink wink )


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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:Can I make a request? On my home page I have a list of favorite threads that when someone posts into them it marks them with a little sign next to them that says 'new'. At the moment when it does that it moves the thread in question to the bottom of the list. Is it possible in any way to get it to move them to the top instead.

Maybe there is already a way to do this that I don't know about, but if there isn't would it be a hard thing to do to make it do that?


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Pink...?
Pink...?

Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
Location: Over There
Member Since: 6th Apr 2002
Total posts: 6140
Posted:I like the new look... however, i had to change my settings to "old and grey"...

What can i say, i'm not good at change ubbangel

I do love the new backdrop for the thinggy at the top.


Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...

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