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Posted:
well i went ahead and did it. i'm pretty happy with the first round, but there were lots of technical details to overcome... IOW there's more shoots to come.
currently in the compression phase. all who've offered to host vids for me, please get ready!!
stay tuned for a vid within the week.
well i went ahead and did it. i'm pretty happy with the first round, but there were lots of technical details to overcome... IOW there's more shoots to come.
currently in the compression phase. all who've offered to host vids for me, please get ready!!
stay tuned for a vid within the week.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Tosser
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Location: Bristol,UK
Tosser
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Location: Bristol,UK
Posted:
SO now everyones shagging in here?
Glad to see the videos made it-
WoW.
Loved the atomic stuff, loved the non atomic stuff, loved the movement (though I'd probably wobble if I tried the belly dancing
)
And I loved the lightsaber
Thanks for a really inspirarational vid
SO now everyones shagging in here?
Glad to see the videos made it-
WoW.
Loved the atomic stuff, loved the non atomic stuff, loved the movement (though I'd probably wobble if I tried the belly dancing
)And I loved the lightsaber
Thanks for a really inspirarational vid
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Berlin, Ireland
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Berlin, Ireland
Posted:
Groovy!
I digged it... thank you for everything!
Groovy!
I digged it... thank you for everything!
I live in a world of infinite possibilities.
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Posted:
ur circles, body and soul enlight the poiworld
u are the official spirit of poispaceship-goldolight
i don´t like it i looooooove it amigo del luz
merci infiniment
ap
ur circles, body and soul enlight the poiworld
u are the official spirit of poispaceship-goldolight
i don´t like it i looooooove it amigo del luz
merci infiniment
ap
peace and light
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Nice Arashi...
While the spinning was good, I think I liked the costume and props more. Your costume is very female high elvish (sorry, Im an ex-EverQuest addict), whered you get that belt?
The atomics were probably the main attraction for me move wise because it showed me that I indeed do them a bit differently... Now Im not sure if what Im doing is what youre doing, just differently, or if Im doing something different all together. Anyway, Ill definately be taking a closer look at that later.
Ill be nice and the only criticism Ill give is that your spinning seemed a bit sloppy and I hope the non-teaser is a bit more refined.
Regardless of the moves, if/when I meet you next, Ill be wanting some costume tips first... And I wont let you get away so easily.
Oh, and I think I need a light saber.
Nice Arashi...
While the spinning was good, I think I liked the costume and props more. Your costume is very female high elvish (sorry, Im an ex-EverQuest addict), whered you get that belt?
The atomics were probably the main attraction for me move wise because it showed me that I indeed do them a bit differently... Now Im not sure if what Im doing is what youre doing, just differently, or if Im doing something different all together. Anyway, Ill definately be taking a closer look at that later.
Ill be nice and the only criticism Ill give is that your spinning seemed a bit sloppy and I hope the non-teaser is a bit more refined.
Regardless of the moves, if/when I meet you next, Ill be wanting some costume tips first... And I wont let you get away so easily.
Oh, and I think I need a light saber.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
And while Im here, I was curious...
Anyone ever tell you you look like DJ Qualls?
And while Im here, I was curious...
Anyone ever tell you you look like DJ Qualls?
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: Bristol !!!!!!, United Kingdom
Pooh-Bah
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Posted:
*insert some grumble about work download restrictions and having to wait until i get home*
*insert some grumble about work download restrictions and having to wait until i get home*
Gayle.....!
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Posted:
Now all you need is a dual bladed lightsabre and you can really piss off meg
I vote Arashi for the next Star Wars thingy (whether its a movie or TV series).
Now all you need is a dual bladed lightsabre and you can really piss off meg
I vote Arashi for the next Star Wars thingy (whether its a movie or TV series).
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
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Flying Water Muppet
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Flying Water Muppet
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Posted:
what do you mean? He already has, just by existing.
what do you mean? He already has, just by existing.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
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Hobo Gaylord
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Posted:
Written by: andrealee
ps-if ya were here, you could have sex ya know!
*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*
"Oooh, what a shiny new move!"
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Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
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Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
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Posted:
sweet - loving the shimmying hips
sweet - loving the shimmying hips
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Location: Glasgow
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How did I know you were going to say that?
The dual bladed ones would mean he'd have to learn staff. Now that'd be a scary thought.
Written by: mcp
what do you mean? He already has, just by existing.
How did I know you were going to say that?The dual bladed ones would mean he'd have to learn staff. Now that'd be a scary thought.
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
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Flying Water Muppet
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Flying Water Muppet
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Posted:
I have met arashi so... not really.
I have met arashi so... not really.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
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Damn. Now all we have to do is think of some form of object manipulation he can't do
turtle tossing anyone?
Damn. Now all we have to do is think of some form of object manipulation he can't do
turtle tossing anyone?
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
Pooh-Bah
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Location: austin,tx
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Location: austin,tx
Posted:
i am VERY adept at tossing my turtle, thank you.
i am VERY adept at tossing my turtle, thank you.
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
Pooh-Bah
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Location: austin,tx
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Location: austin,tx
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p.s. i TOLD you guys the spinning was crap, this is just a screen test
p.s. i TOLD you guys the spinning was crap, this is just a screen test
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Posted:
somehow that comes across as something with sexual implications to me
Or maybe that's just me.
I'm halfway through the download.
somehow that comes across as something with sexual implications to me
Or maybe that's just me.
I'm halfway through the download.
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
rather nice video
*note to self learn to belly dance*
rather nice video
*note to self learn to belly dance*
UCOF "evolution: Poi -> stick -> hoops -> devil stick -> juggling club -> juggling ball -> crayons."
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The first couple of lightsabre-y bits were great. Where did you get it from?
The first couple of lightsabre-y bits were great. Where did you get it from?
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
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master of disaster
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master of disaster
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Posted:
*grumbles about qt and goes to find a not f**ed up computer to watch on*
[edit]
*swoooons*
that was indeed very lovely
EDITED_BY: fireNice (1142017347)
*grumbles about qt and goes to find a not f**ed up computer to watch on*
[edit]
*swoooons*
that was indeed very lovely
EDITED_BY: fireNice (1142017347)
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Posted:
Thats just NOT fair! It's Flippin' FFFFFHUGE! Stupid dial up connection *kicks modem* Now I don't get to see the sexy skinny man do his thang! *sulks*
Thats just NOT fair! It's Flippin' FFFFFHUGE! Stupid dial up connection *kicks modem* Now I don't get to see the sexy skinny man do his thang! *sulks*
Feed me Chocolate!!! Feed me NOW!
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Pooh-Bah
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Pooh-Bah
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Posted:
When cheap body transplants become available on the NHS can i have your tummy?
Nice to see atomics finally, now to find someone to teach me
Lynne - if i see you on sunday i'll burn you a copy??
When cheap body transplants become available on the NHS can i have your tummy?
Nice to see atomics finally, now to find someone to teach me
Lynne - if i see you on sunday i'll burn you a copy??
Gayle.....!
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Cambridge UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Cambridge UK
Posted:
awesome vid: very nice costume and special fx
oh and the spinning was quite nice too
Thanks for sharing!
awesome vid: very nice costume and special fx
oh and the spinning was quite nice too
Thanks for sharing!
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old hand
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Posted:
At long last I got to see the fabled Arashi workin' his mojo! The atomics were indeed sweet -- I realize now that I've never seen proper atomics before...or I've been seeing a different version of atomics. LOVED the costume/prop combo with the lighting...a really fantastic aesthetic. Can't wait to see the proper version of this...and that lightsabre!!
swoon or was it that shimmying tummy that made me swoon? I don't know. See how your spell has confounded me?
Seriously tho, this was a good draft...looking forward to the final product.
At long last I got to see the fabled Arashi workin' his mojo! The atomics were indeed sweet -- I realize now that I've never seen proper atomics before...or I've been seeing a different version of atomics. LOVED the costume/prop combo with the lighting...a really fantastic aesthetic. Can't wait to see the proper version of this...and that lightsabre!!
swoon or was it that shimmying tummy that made me swoon? I don't know. See how your spell has confounded me?Seriously tho, this was a good draft...looking forward to the final product.
taken out of context i must seem so strange
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Posted:
Hmm... So atomics can be cool...
Hmm... So atomics can be cool...
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Posted:
Arashi is now the new StarWars kid!
Arashi is now the new StarWars kid!
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Posted:
Costuming? Eh? Isn't that how Arashi always dresses?
Now that I have recovered , I shall try for a sensible comment or two
* forgive me if I lapse, drooling on the keyboard...*
I really enjoy that you move while spinning: levels , directions, in between spaces, swivels and dips and hips, the whole bit. More, more, cut loose why don't ya!- bigger space would help to be sure- Utilizing the position of head/gaze/hand postures adds impact to moves that may otherwise not be significant. It has a flow to it that I appreciate, and though relaxed, almost slack in spinning style, you have an intensity that makes it engaging. The variation of tempo spinning worked for me too, though could even be more exaggerated for effect- without effects... The performance/vid was not the least predictable, and I like that too. I could not even identify individual moves, for the most part, which was great. I thought from 4.20 to the end the best, not sure why yet. All in all, you met my *ahem*, desire, for a new dancy poi vid...
In addition to the movement, I liked both the quirky funky music and the filming style: the saturated colours, contrast, cuts and effects really contributed to the overall edgy cool feel of it
A whip would take it to that next level though.Seriously.
Thanks!!! can't wait for the real deal, and you can keep the stripey sock-- I would be honoured for you to have it.Though I have no memory of how you got it in the first place , so someone really ought to make up a good story...
Costuming? Eh? Isn't that how Arashi always dresses?
Now that I have recovered , I shall try for a sensible comment or two
* forgive me if I lapse, drooling on the keyboard...*
I really enjoy that you move while spinning: levels , directions, in between spaces, swivels and dips and hips, the whole bit. More, more, cut loose why don't ya!- bigger space would help to be sure- Utilizing the position of head/gaze/hand postures adds impact to moves that may otherwise not be significant. It has a flow to it that I appreciate, and though relaxed, almost slack in spinning style, you have an intensity that makes it engaging. The variation of tempo spinning worked for me too, though could even be more exaggerated for effect- without effects... The performance/vid was not the least predictable, and I like that too. I could not even identify individual moves, for the most part, which was great. I thought from 4.20 to the end the best, not sure why yet. All in all, you met my *ahem*, desire, for a new dancy poi vid...
In addition to the movement, I liked both the quirky funky music and the filming style: the saturated colours, contrast, cuts and effects really contributed to the overall edgy cool feel of it
A whip would take it to that next level though.Seriously.
Thanks!!! can't wait for the real deal, and you can keep the stripey sock-- I would be honoured for you to have it.Though I have no memory of how you got it in the first place , so someone really ought to make up a good story...
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
Pooh-Bah
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Location: austin,tx
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Location: austin,tx
Posted:
well in light of icon's utter lack of amazement i'm doing the real shoot this sunday.
thanks for the compliments. if you guys liked THAT...
icon i promise to put more tech in it just for you trust me there's more and i made the whole costume myself. the belt is two belts, i made the one underneath with the snow leapord print and the metal. So you're saying i look like a chick with no planes and a stoned computer nerd wrapped in one? gee such a sweet tongue you've got there, dunno if i can take the charm
yes andrea's got it... costumes huh? and yes the last half was my fave, really that's when we changed the angle of the camera and i had a bit more room.
i got the light saber on ebay. it's "mace windu's"
I AM THE NEW STAR WARS KID!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!
well in light of icon's utter lack of amazement
i'm doing the real shoot this sunday. thanks for the compliments. if you guys liked THAT...
icon i promise to put more tech in it just for you trust me there's more
and i made the whole costume myself. the belt is two belts, i made the one underneath with the snow leapord print and the metal. So you're saying i look like a chick with no planes and a stoned computer nerd wrapped in one? gee such a sweet tongue you've got there, dunno if i can take the charm yes andrea's got it... costumes huh? and yes the last half was my fave, really that's when we changed the angle of the camera and i had a bit more room.
i got the light saber on ebay. it's "mace windu's"
I AM THE NEW STAR WARS KID!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
Pooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx
Posted:
well here's my first constructive criticism critique... even though this was a pm i'm posting it cause i feel like it. it's now anonymous and i thought perhaps folks might like to see the dialogue. there's some very valid points. it's not quite as sweet as andrea's though 
(and thanks andrea for the input)
so here's my response. sounds like a bunch of excuses maybe?
- i got to the shoot 2 hours from my house and my poi didn't work well with the lighting so i used glass' poi which i brought as an emergency backup because he is very cool friend and i respect him and i thought it'd be nice to use them seeings as though i had no choice. but they wiegh like 1/200the of a pound and i never play with them lately. they move if you breathe on them heavy and i do lall my spinning with heavy poi so yes the planes and spinning was shite exactlly like i told you it would be.
- i couldn't MOVE without the white wall behind me showing so what you didn't hear was the camera guy yelling "too far" every five seconds. how's that for flow? by the second half of the vid though we figured out three poses that actually fit in the camera so i started improvising within those.
-for any other "your spinning is
" comments see my first paragraph. or every post i've made in this thread, either will do.
-well that's because half the time i'm not looking at the camera i'm looking over at the monitor to see if what i'm doing is in the screen anymore. yes it looks like a deer in the headlights, esp. with the blacklights showing the whites of my eyes, sorry but isn't it obvious what's happening there?? every time i take a step i jerk back to where i was cause he's yelling that i'm too close. we threw this together in one night, captured and edited in about 2 hours, and MOST of the clips that he put in made me cringe, in fact three of my least favorite moments in the whole shoot got put in and i would never use them for a serious video. so sue me.
-as for the rest... i think you're probably glad i left this anonymous and even edited out telltale grammar 
people are just being nice cause it's not about how tech or impressive my spinning is, nor is it a performance it's just a friggin test shoot. and i have to say there's some parts in there that i'm proud of, lots of them in fact, regardless of whether or not i've impressed you or myself.
there's more i could add too. the part where my fingers in my free hand are open slightly while in the mantis style with the sword is absolutely atrocious, it's neither a grab or a punch but an oopsie mandala thrown in. i told him "start it after the fingers close at least" and he heard something else, and there it is. we knew during the shoot it was not good, by the time we got to editing, we knew the shoot didn't really work out so we were just throwing it together. also the part where i hold the sword over my head and then the time reverses is also the worst form of parry i've ever seen, i asked him not to put it in but it was 5:30 in the morning.
the airwraps were all sloppy. and basic.
wtf is up with those waistwraps, half of them hit my body! wow it's almost like i didn't really care because it's just a first draft.
i could critique that thing all day but sorry i'd rather go practice...
EDITED_BY: arashi (1142072381)
well here's my first constructive criticism critique... even though this was a pm i'm posting it cause i feel like it. it's now anonymous and i thought perhaps folks might like to see the dialogue. there's some very valid points. it's not quite as sweet as andrea's though
(and thanks andrea for the input)Written by:
you obviously have some jedi mindskills... I mean.. I saw that vid... you saw that vid. I think we both agree on what we saw. yet people are talking about how lovely the spinning was?!?
lets be honest with each other
- the stalls were jerky
- you were hesitant with a lot of your movement, which broke up any flow and caused the poi to wobble at some poitns so bad that it came across almost as a flailing
- the atoms that everyone praised were inverted atoms Ie. atomic buzzsaws, which are the easiest to work with.. you did the atom clean, which was nice, but some of the play that you did, just left me wondering wtf... and not the 'that was pimp' wtf
- you looked afraid of the camera a lot of the time
we can continue down the list, but I think the point is made. I know you know this, so its not like I'm giving you crap or pretending to yield a critique, or insight or anything. And I'm not being a dick. You're a performer. you do this for a living. What would people say if you went out and gave that as a performance? you know, so you understand where I'm coming from on this.
Now this isnt to say that it should have been spectacular or anything. I understand that isn't the inention. But I gotta know this jedi mindtrick you do. You waved your hand and said 'This is not the crap spinning you think you see'. and people bought it..
I must have this secret. Is it the belly? does showing a little skin distract people from the poi? I mean, how does this work?
so here's my response. sounds like a bunch of excuses maybe?
- i got to the shoot 2 hours from my house and my poi didn't work well with the lighting so i used glass' poi which i brought as an emergency backup because he is very cool friend and i respect him and i thought it'd be nice to use them seeings as though i had no choice
. but they wiegh like 1/200the of a pound and i never play with them lately. they move if you breathe on them heavy and i do lall my spinning with heavy poi so yes the planes and spinning was shite exactlly like i told you it would be.- i couldn't MOVE without the white wall behind me showing so what you didn't hear was the camera guy yelling "too far" every five seconds. how's that for flow? by the second half of the vid though we figured out three poses that actually fit in the camera so i started improvising within those.
-for any other "your spinning is
" comments see my first paragraph. or every post i've made in this thread, either will do.-well that's because half the time i'm not looking at the camera i'm looking over at the monitor to see if what i'm doing is in the screen anymore. yes it looks like a deer in the headlights, esp. with the blacklights showing the whites of my eyes, sorry but isn't it obvious what's happening there?? every time i take a step i jerk back to where i was cause he's yelling that i'm too close. we threw this together in one night, captured and edited in about 2 hours, and MOST of the clips that he put in made me cringe, in fact three of my least favorite moments in the whole shoot got put in and i would never use them for a serious video. so sue me.
-as for the rest...
i think you're probably glad i left this anonymous and even edited out telltale grammar people are just being nice cause it's not about how tech or impressive my spinning is, nor is it a performance it's just a friggin test shoot. and i have to say there's some parts in there that i'm proud of, lots of them in fact, regardless of whether or not i've impressed you or myself.
there's more i could add too. the part where my fingers in my free hand are open slightly while in the mantis style with the sword is absolutely atrocious, it's neither a grab or a punch but an oopsie mandala thrown in. i told him "start it after the fingers close at least" and he heard something else, and there it is. we knew during the shoot it was not good, by the time we got to editing, we knew the shoot didn't really work out so we were just throwing it together. also the part where i hold the sword over my head and then the time reverses is also the worst form of parry i've ever seen, i asked him not to put it in but it was 5:30 in the morning.
the airwraps were all sloppy. and basic.
wtf is up with those waistwraps, half of them hit my body! wow it's almost like i didn't really care because it's just a first draft.
i could critique that thing all day but sorry i'd rather go practice...
EDITED_BY: arashi (1142072381)
-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.
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Posted:
*i wish arrashi was a girl..... * - oops did i say that...
nice work.
. yess please to more atomics /technical stuff in the next one... thanks for posting, good to see a video that is on a different kind of level to what im used too . 
*i wish arrashi was a girl..... * - oops did i say that...
nice work.
. yess please to more atomics /technical stuff in the next one... thanks for posting, good to see a video that is on a different kind of level to what im used too . Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
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