i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Are you up for it?
;)
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: onewheeldave
I think if we use as an analogy, say, a cartoon of Jesus that ridicules him, we'd be inclined to say that the muslims are wrong to take this so seriously, as, in our culture, mocking Jesus is seen as acceptable.
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Written by: PrometheusYou know, neither do I. Islam prohibits depictions of the prophet for the sole reason of preventing idolatry. Personally I don't think there is any chance of idolatry coming from these cartoons. However there seems to be a lot of idolatry of the prophet by members of the Islamic community at the moment. This entire thing seems to be a misinterpretation of Islamic law to me.
As for the Mohammed thing ... I don't get it, but I'm also no Muslim.
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Written by: exerpts from above link
We can be certain that the editors publishing the Muhammad caricatures would not smear their pages with anti-Semitic graffiti. Or commission drawings maligning the Pope, by depicting him, say, in compromising sexual positions.
...........It is this double standard that's at the heart of the repeated conflicts between the West and the world of Islam over how far anti-Islamic provocateurs can go in baiting Muslims, repeatedly, knowing full well the depth of Muslim feelings about their most cherished beliefs.
...........The Danes have neither defended freedom of speech well nor upheld another sacred secular principle, mutual respect between peoples of all faiths.
In balancing these two competing rights in this troubled world at this time, thinking people and responsible public institutions should err on the side of advancing mutual understanding, not fanning more conflicts.
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But you can make the Bastard work for it."
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What was even more disturbing was the response of Muslims. Boycotting Danish products, closing down the offices of European diplomatic offices and the beating of Dane's working in the Gulf were measures that did not suit a community whose Prophet is described in the divine scriptures as a Mercy to Humankind.
Immediately, after the battle of Badr, Omar bin al Khattab, one of the most celebrated companions of Prophet sought the permission of the state to punish Suhail bin Amr, a prisoner of war who had engaged in anti-Prophet Muhammad propaganda in Makkah. Suhail was known for his abusive language and insulting attitude towards the Prophet. Prophet Muhammad , as the ruler of the newly formed Islamic State strictly prohibited his companions from punishing or torturing any prisoner of war on account of their past hostilities. He admonished Omar bin al-Khattab for seeking retribution. After all, the Prophet had endured all the possible humiliation at the hands of the elites of Makkah and their supporters without asking any of his supporters to silence his opponents.
Islam recognizes the dissent to its teachings and appeals to its adherents to deal with it in a civil manner. Islam promotes the idea that a polite response and a decent rebuttal are powerful enough in changing the worst enemy into a friend. Islam does not seek revenge of those who indulge in anti-Islam, anti-God or anti-Prophet abuses. Furthermore, Islam prohibits the use of pressure and intimidation for changing the hearts of people.
Islam teaches us that coercion is incapable of bringing a change in the attitude of people. Intimidation might make others change their immediate reaction to Islam but ultimately it is futile because every individual has to make a conscious decision about his or her relations with God and His creation.
The provocation of Danish and other European newspapers was foolish and full of hatred. There is no need for such provocation in a world that is fast becoming cosmopolitan in all its dimensions. The freedom of speech cannot be used as an excuse to hurt or insult others. Moreover, there exists double standards in this matter among most European and American journalists working for big media corporations. Most of these advocates of freedom of speech do not dare write against the foul practices of multinational corporations that often provide bread and butter to most working journalists. Most of them do not dare to expose the dirty trade practices, excessive exploitation and other violation of human rights of people working in such corporations. Most of them would not even touch the so called issues of national security even if the position of the power elite is against national interests. A case in point is the War in Iraq.
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No doubt, each of us feels hurt when we see an offensive depiction of our faith or our Prophet. However, rather than reacting in an emotional manner, we should use the opportunity to demonstrate true Islamic values of patience and persuasion. We showed our weakness in controlling our emotions when Salman Rushdie insulted our Prophet. We have repeated the same mistake. By now we should have learned about the teachings of our prophet in dealing with such cases. Perhaps we need to go back to study the life of our Prophet in more detail to develop a better understanding of his character and teachings as well as his mission in the world. After all, we accept him as a Mercy to Humankind that includes Dane's, Norwegian, French, Germans, Jews, Christians and every human being that exists or will exist in our universe.
Dr. Aslam Abdullah is editor-in-Chief of the Muslim Observer and the director of the Islamic Society of Nevada as well as the director of the Muslim Electorates Council of America.
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The provocation of Danish and other European newspapers was foolish and full of hatred. There is no need for such provocation in a world that is fast becoming cosmopolitan in all its dimensions. The freedom of speech cannot be used as an excuse to hurt or insult others.
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There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees
Written by: KaelGotRice
I was having a discussion late last night with some lady after a party.
She was going on about how 99% of Muslims/Islamics wish for the destruction of Israel and the "western way of life". I was seriously appalled and saddened by the amount of discrimination as she carried on.
When I told her otherwise, that of all the Islamics I've been to school with, NONE have advocated destruction of the US, she merely waved it off as a fluke, or even suggesting that my Muslim friends were "jihadists in disguise".
Let's just say American "patriotism" is extremely bugging me right now.
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
Written by: Sym
People should remember that it's only a very small per cent that are causing the problems. Most Muslims are just sitting back, maybe a little pissed, but they are not burning buildings down.
You know what I'm thinking about right now? That's right, Tacos!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Written by: Brit_Joe
They tske things far too sriously, I heard on tv someone was calling for these protesters to be arrested and charged with insiting hatred or whatever and I agree, theres really no justification for walking around with banners saying 'Behead the infidels' and 'Death to those who mock islam'.
There behaving like a pack of animals, which wouldnt be the first time, theres allways reports of people being trampled to death in eastern countrys on pilgramiges, what is wrong with these people
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Written by: Sethis
Careful how you generalise. We have the freedom to make fun of "Rag heads" whether we choose to do so or not (make no mistake, I do not). They have the freedom to state their fundamentalist point of view, whether they choose to do so or not. Arresting Muslims for protesting non-violently would probably be a very bad move right now. I'm not saying we should be afraid of upsetting people and allow people who preach vicious hatred to go unpunished, but that we should be very careful in arresting anyone.
Written by: Sethis
Last I heard, young muslims weren't videoing assaults on 60 year olds with their mobile phones.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: Sethis
I think that arresting anyone for saying something is risky and dangerous. Unless they are disclosing information that will cost lives or something, then people should be able to say whatever they want. It doesn't mean anyone has to listen.
Written by: Sethis
Second point: I have grown up in a very very white chav dominated area (Lake District). We didn't have any, I mean *any* ethnic minorities in our school until we were in year 10. So I don't have much exposure to ethnic/racial/religious violence on a local level. However it seems that out of the various sub-cultures, there is more violence prevalent in Chavs and Afro-Carribbean groups than there are in Muslim ones. But by my own admission, I don't have that much experience of it. Just what I get from reading the news.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: frietom
We do know that the cartoonists wanted to actually show something and not to insult Mohammed or god himself, but it hurt some peoples feelings. How would a christian feel if a cartoonist showed Woytyla with a prostitute, or a little boy in bed?
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Written by: Rouge Dragon
Can we put a jihad on chavs? oh can we? can we? can we?
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