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northernpyro
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Posted:ok could someone please explain in lamens terms how to pull one of these things i can do antispin buzz saw i just cant get the transition PLEASE help

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Zauberdachs
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Posted:practise one hand at a time makes it much easier...

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northernpyro
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Posted:yea i understand that i just dont get the concept i mean i can do it as in buzz saw but not at full arms length and i dont understand why

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VampyricAcid
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Posted:antispin buzzsaw?! thats something i'd like to see!!!!

but anyway, sit down and think about what the poi are doing and where they are meant to be going, and think about how it should feel, then try again smile


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pricklyleaf
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Posted:Hi,



There a lot of helpful advice threads about various flowers kicking around. All can be found by using the search engine HERE,

(its best to always do a search before you start a new topic, as otherwise HoP ends up with lots of repeat threads, just full of links, making it difficult to find things.)





or by looking at the helpful advice threads section HERE.



A good one to start with is HERE.



Antispin flowers are not done from a buzzsaw. There are buzzsaw fountains, where the poi form a buzsaw and then move round the edge of a bigger circle.



Or there are antispin flowers. Firstly though, in a basic, normal spin flower, your arms spin in the side\wheel planes, spinning in split time, you arms pause opposite each other at 12 and 6, then rotate forwards to 3 and 9, then forwards again to 6 and 12, then forwards again to 9 and 3 and so on. This is what I'm doing in my avator in fact.



In antispin, while your poi are spinning forwards, your arms are rotating backwards, ie, in the opposite direction to the poi. So with your poi spinning forwards in split time, your arms are at opposite points on the clock and going to move anticlockwise from 6 and 12, to 9 and 3 and so on. The more points on the clock you stop to spin a circle at, the more petals the flowers get.

Hope this helps!


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KaelGotRice
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Posted:You can do antispin buzzsaws, as shown by my video here

http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1


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UCOF
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Posted:He can do 5, I can do 28.
Then again, he can do my mum.

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shen shui
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Posted:you let him do your mum?
ouch.
how much do you charge?
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antispin buzzies? wicked! aint never seen or hearda them!
(what a cool member number you have, ucof)


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northernpyro
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Posted:Written by: KaelGotRice

You can do antispin buzzsaws, as shown by my video here

http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1




yea thats where i got the idea from to start doing antispin so thank you keal you are an insperation


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Dunc
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Posted:If you go and find Yuta's video in the Video forum you'll see some lovely anti flowers smile

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TinklePants
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Posted:Anti spin is easy.

poi spins clockwise
arms move counter clockwise.

and vise versa.

Buy one of these and you'll understand!


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pricklyleaf
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Posted:ooh, never seen an antispin buzzsaw before, but I see you do an antispin flower with it after, from what I could see the poi were on the outside of your arms, not the insides. Is it the buzzsaw or flower varitaion you are wanting to learn, pyro?

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coleman
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Posted:Written by: TinklePants

Anti spin is easy.




ubblol

imo, antispin is not easy...

the basic concept is indeed simple but to apply it to moves (weaves, reels, longarm stuff is the most common) and have it look good takes some both good timing and accurate hand/arm placement.


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animatEd
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Posted:and it's kind of isolated as well...

For flowers, I find when spinning forwards, or regular flowers, at the exact point the poi is horizontal away from you, pull your arm back, and do the antispin motions, as it were.

There are other ways of getting into antispin flowers, I'm sure, but this is the way I find easiest, especially if you're just starting out with antispin. Have fun!!


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TinklePants
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Posted:Written by: coleman

Written by: TinklePants

Anti spin is easy.




ubblol

imo, antispin is not easy...
cole. x



Well I found it easy redface


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