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Mint Sauce
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Posted:(this is a double post i have already put it as a reply to somone i just thought it may be usfull in hear if not i will deleat smile )

ubbangel if someone could spell check this for me I would be most grateful ubbangel



Ok so having done an extensive search of nearly all the threads containing wire wool and Sparkly poi respectively



I have come up with a bit of info.

But I have discovered an answer to a common myth confused.

Yes there are lots of sparkly poi threads but most of them are useless with limited info

And some quite outdated advice that is actually quite dangerous eek.



Wire wool spinning is spinning of wire gages (usually made of chicken wire) filled with burning wire wool it is very very dangerous as hot lumps of molten metal are spraying out all over the place. frown



But it dose look very pretty. biggrin



I have used wire wool a few times and hear are my following top 20 tips.



1 make sure your cage and chain construction is solid (dont want it falling apart mid spin) good solid quick links should be used



2 make sure the holes in your cage are quite big not to big about 1 to 2 inches across



3 use fine grade wire wool it works better the finer the better



4 dont pack your cages to tight you need good air flow over the wool for it to work (as we found out in Falmouth)



5 opposite to 4 dont pack it to loose the burning wool wont pass its burn to the rest of the wool effectively (trial and error to get this right)



6 you dont need to dip if you do your cages are badly constructed with not enough air flow.



7 spin fast but dont do any body-cross moves (rotation flowers ect) (in-fact dont to flowers you dont want the poi head spinning towards you) (buzz saws are right out)



8 dont make your cages to big this will make them heavy and un-wielding



9 try to make the bottom of your cage round improves air flow over the hot end of the wool



10 in-fact tube shaped is best no sharp edges to catch on stuff



11 if you want to have longer burn time line your cages with a metal can so only the end of the wool burns and the rest feeds down into it as the wool burns away



12 if you do have feed tubes make sure they are smooth or the wool will just snag will not feed into the end of the cages



13 spin in the open (I mean open your back yard will not do)



14 dont spin near any combustible stuff IE the dry ground, cars, people, buildings that sort of stuff. best done after a good rain shower



15 keep people and animals well back say 20 m or so (you never know what might happen (we once had a head come completely come off))



16 keep all skin and hair well covered ( I got a very bad burn just by one glancing my arm)



17 if stuff dose go wrong drop them and walk away dont try to put them out they are dam dam hot if you can drop a very damp towel on them or even better fire blanket



18 when you have finished dont try to empty the remains out straight away wait for it to cool the lump in the bottom is semi molten metal and is hot



19 empty the remains into a metal tin it will still be hot for a long time (dont want to start any fires now do we wink)



20 be sure you are a good spinner dont do silly stuff and practice with full cages unlit to get used to the feel of them









Out of the links I did find some were vary good please read them all before even attempting wool work





This link has some great safety info by fireNice and has some good replies.



Wire Wool Safety



This one has a bit of useful info and some nice links by fluffy



(LINK COMMING SOON SEARCH IS PLAYING UP redface)







A quote from Frodo someone whos advice I would trust.

Written by: Frodo


use the finest grade wire wool that you can, DONT dip, and dont light!!!



sound confusing? well just use a normal household 9V battery, thats what i use, dry wire wool and a 9V it makes an even brighter wall of wooll!!!





dont take my word for it, try it!!



frodo out





Hear is a pick of a good design with a feeding tin for longer burn times.



http://home.wanadoo.nl/rhoutappel/plaatjes/poi/wirewoolpoi.jpg
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This is just an example one of the many picks I have found and is how not to go about it not enough space sparks are hitting what looks like a wooden fence and who knows what is on the other side of the fence ( may be a cat doing an impression of a dog wwooooooooofffffff)



http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3444
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Always think safety first ubbangel

cool





ubbangelif someone could spell check this for me I would be most grateful ubbangel

EDITED_BY: Mint Sauce (1137983797)


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)


Nelum
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Member Since: 5th Sep 2006
Total posts: 4
Posted:Thanks for a grate Thread .....i have been looking for serious information and construction tips for a long time now...And with you help..... biggrinI had my firs "sparkle spin " on wednesday night....nice!
And tomorrow night we are trying colored flames. ubblove...Cant wait!



Yakumo
Yakumo

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Total posts: 1237
Posted:Anyone else think this thread should be auto linked to 'wire wool', 'wirewool', in the same way as the safety one for fire breathing ?



I think the world might be a slightly better,safer place that way smile

EDITED_BY: Yakumo (1168448322)


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fNi
fNi

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Location: New York
Member Since: 8th Mar 2004
Total posts: 3354
Posted:yes, and what about sparkly poi, steel wool, and the other variatons tongue

kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
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ezz: please corrupt me more


Yakumo
Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire
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Posted:as many as they care to implement, I hadn't seen the term 'sparkly poi' before today.

sparkly poi
steel wool
wire wool
wirewool
sparkler poi

would be a reasonable list to catch most threads that end up on the subject and help make the readers more aware of things ?


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squarefish
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Location: the state of flux
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2002
Total posts: 403
Posted:Hmm,
The term "Sparkly poi" may also include titanium flake spiked poi or other types of sparking additives, so the idea of a context filter might be a bit restrictive in this case.



GothFrogette
GothFrogette

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Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
Total posts: 3999
Posted:yeay thank for the info... as ever hop has just what i needed

Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows


brianmtuk
brianmtuk

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Location: Milton Keynes
Member Since: 5th Jun 2006
Total posts: 9
Posted:got any ideas what i could mix colour changing chemicals with that would burn with the wire wool?


brianmtuk
brianmtuk

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Total posts: 9
Posted:Ive got some wire wool pictures you guys might be interested in on my website wink, check them out!... bigfunwithbrian.com
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ubersmack
ubersmack

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Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 9th Jul 2006
Total posts: 73
Posted:I dont think that very many color changing chemicals are going to work like they would with poi, you might be able to see them burn off in the cage and thats about it..

"Runs with Scissors"


ubersmack
ubersmack

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Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 9th Jul 2006
Total posts: 73
Posted: Written by:

Ive got some wire wool pictures you guys might be interested in on my website





and there for sale! :/


"Runs with Scissors"


Yakumo
Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire
Member Since: 31st May 2006
Total posts: 1237
Posted:The one under the bridge where the sparks hitting the wall make a frame is very cool, havn't seen that before, nice pic.



Are you shooting analog? or what kind of digital to get decent IQ at A3?



and good luck selling them!

(I'm broke, been trying to sell some of my favourite pics for months, no takers :/ )


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brianmtuk
brianmtuk

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Posted:Im using a digital. Much better when you can see what your getting straight away - instead of waiting for them to be processed! :-)

'and there for sale! :/'
I'm not forcing you to buy them! Just thought you might like to look at them as they are related to this thread.....



Dom
Dom

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Location: Bristol, UK
Member Since: 19th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3009
Posted:I'm resurrecting an old thread as I stumbled upon some great pictures of vast amounts of sparkly goodness!

Photos 3,4 & 5 from The Big Picture are from the Lantern Festival in Nuanquan, China.



Mr Majestik
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Total posts: 4693
Posted:very cool!

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley


dancingtree
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Posted:This can be done with a staff, and looks fantastic.


Disaster_Case
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Posted:I just snagged one of your pics and it's my background! I freggin love it!!!!!!!


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