"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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Written by: Patriarch917
I'm not a scientist, but I'm quite willing to be proved wrong. All you need to is replicate a global flood and bury a T-rex for 65 million years, and your interpretations can be proven. Conduct the experiment that proves the theory, and we will all agree with you. Until then, the difference between "groundless faith" and "reasonable theories" is a philisophical choice, not a verifiable fact.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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Conduct the experiment that proves the theory, and we will all agree with you. Until then, the difference between "groundless faith" and "reasonable theories" is a philisophical choice, not a verifiable fact.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
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what clearly specified observational data/experiement would disprove creationism?
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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'Its people like us, who make them feel talentless.'
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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That the universe has not been created.
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Some versions of creationism are entirely consistent with evolution.
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Someone dated the peoples lives from the Bible back to Adam and Eve. This was found to be around like 12000 years ago, ill use like really rough figures as im not sure exactly what it was, but anyway. The earth has been scientifically proven that if you add 6 zero's onto that number then you mite get the proper age of the earth. So therfore the Bible cant be true
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it seems to me that discussion of creationism, would be more valid in the field of philosophy, as it lacks the requirement of empirical/observational data that science insists on
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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the thing i'm trying to get at is that there has always been people that doubt the religions. for example the battle between catholics and protestants in ireland, i really dont believe that all irish are either catholic or protestant, yet that is what would appear to be the case(to me) as its all the religion news that i hear about from that part of the world
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I think the neat division of school based learning into artificial subjects causes a lot of problems.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: UnbeatenChampionOfFightingWritten by: Mr Majestik
for example, god cleanesed the earth allowing only noahs family to live, why? because people had turned away from him, this could be an example of a majority of people not being believers, even before other recorded history began.
Actually.... God was reported to have done that. The Bible cant be undeniably proven as either Fact or Fiction for a very long time, possibly ever.
Written by: PeleWritten by: Mr Majestik
basically i've been thinking for a while how many people talk about the dominance of religion, how in history people were generally more religious than they are now.
I think it really depends on what you are meaning by "religious".
I am seeing alot of reference to only the mainstream, widely accepted religions, those with a strongly known and widespread mythos and governing system.
In true, honest to goodness documented history (meaning not the bible), *every* tribe that has ever exsisted has demonstrated having a religious structure and pioty. Even the so-called witches HAD a religion, they simply didn't believe in the one that would oppress their beliefs.
However, in this day and age there are more people turning away from faith on the whole. There are supposedly more documented athiests and agnostics than ever, which is something I do not think you would have found commonly before the age of science. Even those with science still tended to believe in something divine (Egyptians, Mayans, etc).
That is actually what is meant by the statement that there are less religious people today, and I do believe it to be true.
Written by: FireTomWritten by: MrMajestik
because whereever i look in history i can see the likelyhood that there were many non-believers of the dominant religion of their time.
This is definately a fact, it's a question of "how many" - as stated before, Indonesia is for example considered to host the largest muslim population on the planet - which is a shallow conclusion. People there are practicing their animism (along), or sometimes their variety of Islam - which has not necessarily to do with the original script (Koran).
In parts of India you find Jesus next to Shiva (just to make sure ) - there Jesus is widely accepted as a "Guru" (Teacher) and this is what prophets basically are: teachers
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for example, god cleanesed the earth allowing only noahs family to live, why? because people had turned away from him, this could be an example of a majority of people not being believers, even before other recorded history began.
We are talking mostly about a time maybe 6-10.000 B.C. or further back. The reference of this time in the bible is most likely about the areas of the mediterranean (around the mare nostrum) the middle point of the world - by this you already get a clue how limited the view of this record is. A natural desaster like the tsunami may easily have happened and wiped out 90% of the population... the above statements are no proof that this has never happened.
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So I certainly follow up on your impression.
(li)
To round it up: Knowledge about the world is liberating - hence it doesn't explain the phenomenon itself. Some things have to be experienced still in order to complete the picture. This has nothing to do with holding on to a straw, or to mystify existence. It's merely "getting awareness".
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