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UCOF
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Posted:Monkey and I were sitting on our boat, discussing this question briefly over a cup of tea:

Would you rather be forced to live in a zoo on an alien planet as a human, or would you rather be forced to live in jail?

I think I would much rather prefer to be in a zoo, as i would be there not as a punishment, and there would probably be more facilities to play with (tire tied to a rope tied to a tree perhaps? biggrin ).
In jail, although you are looked after, you are in there to be punished, so its not going to be particularly pleasant is it?

Which brings me to the question, what would you prefer to live in?


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PyroWill
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Posted:The zoo, because if you think about it, zoological societies try to give the animals in there as much as they can to mimic their surroundings in the natural habitat so they are most happy.

So if I was in a zoo, there would just be a computer with the internet, a tv and dvd player and a lot of booze, fantastic!


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Asena
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Posted:ooooh.....



Almost definately a zoo, as you can pick your nose and people will goooo euuugggh yet watch anyway...same with bum scratchin....

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Rouge Dragon
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Posted:Zoo. But it depends. I'd rather live in a prison than an Eastern European Zoo. I vivited one and I nearly cried (no exaggeration! and I was there on a date as well! yep! we lasted past that date! rolleyes)

Therefore if this alien planet has quality zoos like the Melbourne Zoo or Taronga (Sydney) then yes. Zoo.


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PyroWill
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Posted:Asena really spank excl

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"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian

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Mr Majestik
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Posted:lol, it depends if the zoo has a mating program............ :P ubbloco

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Kyrian


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Posted:It depends greatly on the type of prison and the type of zoo!

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UCOF
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Posted:Hows about an average prison and an average zoo?

umm


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Asena
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Posted:Written by: PyroWill

Asena really spank excl



redface sowwy

Plus i spose in a zoo, staff are there to care for you (ie like monkey world where everyone seems to love the monkeys) but in a prison, you can hardly say the guards care for you, they just there to control you...


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PyroWill
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Posted:sowwy? yet no effort made to edit your post? ok. I'm sure the majority of this site knows your gay by now so I dont see the need to stick a gay reference into almost every post, especially a reasonably crude one that isnt exactly subtle, sorry its late and im grouchy.

I wonder if my zoo would just look liek my bedroom but have double sided mirrors or something


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Spanner
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Posted:Written by: PyroWill


sowwy? yet no effort made to edit your post? ok. I'm sure the majority of this site knows your gay by now so I dont see the need to stick a gay reference into almost every post, especially a reasonably crude one that isnt exactly subtle





Either:

- Asena has already edited his post

- the reference is subtle enough for me to miss

- I'm too simple to register it biggrin

- there was no reference

- write your own message here



I don't take issue with gay references (I'm sure I don't need to search for posts to quote from members who stick a straight reference into almost every post as a comparision, do I? wink )and I think this:



Written by:
sorry its late and im grouchy.





realised earlier, could have meant the thread going off topic was avoided... hug



Interesting question though, UCoF...I'm still thinking on it smile



One question so far: for the purposes of the zoo, would Simian be considered monkey or man by the aliens? confused


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PyroWill
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Posted:Sorry for the offtopic Back to the zoo

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife

"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian

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Asena
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Posted:redface after the lil moan i editted it... and it wasnt subtle enough to miss and was very crude lol



I dont think i stick references in everypost tho.... or maybe I do unintentially and am too simple to realise ubblol



oops... offtopic



I spose in a zoo tho you get strangers oggling you... where as in a prison, its friends and family who come to visit, tho i guess in zoo you live with your friends and family.......



sooo many pros and cons!

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UCOF
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Posted:"would Simian be considered monkey or man by the aliens?"

Good question and one I would like to pick up.


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Domino
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Posted:Zoo! Zoo! Then you get to throw poo at tourists...

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Skulduggery
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Posted:It would depend on what sentence you had and how long you would be in prison. If it's a short sentence (under 10 years) I'll take prison.

Being in a Zoo tends to be for life and although as many have said in a Zoo they do tend (in better ones anyway) to try and make the inmates happy, it's still a prison. You have your liberty taken away in either a zoo or a prison, so I'll opt for the one that you stand a chance of getting out of alive.

I probably wouldn't survive either very long though, due to my huge fear of being locked in. I flip out when I feel trapped. In a Zoo they would probably shoot me for going crazy. In a british prison they are not very likely to shoot me if I lost the plot. ubblol


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Dom
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Posted:Right, in an attempt to get this back on track as a 'discussion' I'll post!

I've spent the past few weeks with a group of people who have already made this choice - zoo or prision - and there's not much difference between them really!

There are a group of people called the Karenni who are native to the area now referred to as Burma/Myanmar, however they'll tell you they come from thier own land: Karenni or Kayah State. Due to the disgusting actions of the ruling military junta in Burma they are living as refugees in Thailand and some have been there since 1988. Almost all of them are forced to live in massive refugee camps which might as well be big prisions. They're not allowed to travel outside the camp, except semi-legally in order to work in the fields for $1 a day. Thier schooling is basic, thier food is basic and supplied by a charity as they can't work or go into the local town to shop.

However some of the Karenni turn out to have a traditional culture that is a tourist commodity. So the members of this sub group, the Kayan, are given the choice of living in the camp, or living in a seperate village where tourists will pay to visit them and take photos. The advantage is that this actually allows them contact with the outside world and a chance to earn an income, shared with the Thai 'zoo keepers'. They're still limited in travel, cannot farm any land, cannot get jobs, but as they're not in prision they can at least begin to do these things ilegally.

These villages are often described as 'human zoos' and I really see why when I stay there. Hordes of tourists descend upon the village to take photos and buy trinkets, throwing daily life such as school and cooking to to turmoil. Many hate this routine but the other choice is indeed a prison, but without the uniform.

The advantage of a zoo is that you can get contact with the outside world. For the Kayan they might as well be on an alien planet for the people that visit them live a life that's unimaginable to them. A life involving supermarkets, the ability to travel, electricity, a vote. The zoo's visitors can at least be a conduit to this greater world and provide some alternative stimulation and provide a bit more scope to develop an identity in relation to other people and, for them, the chance to earn a little money.

So, I guess it depends how nice the prision or the zoo are, but I think I'd go for the zoo. At least you can have something to look back at.


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Dunc
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Posted:I think I'd prefer a zoo, a lot less chance of getting stabbed by some hairy arsed bench pressing gorilla, although if it was [url=http://www.porridge.org.uk/]HERE[/url and we were in 1973 I'd probably go to prison biggrin

Let's relight this forum ubblove

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jo_rhymes
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Posted:What would i be in prison for? If it was for a worthwhile cause, for example destroying every mcdonalds, then i'd be willing to do the time for my crime.
The zoo sounds ok, but I'm a little worried about my zookeepers. Would they be scary?
Plus i'd hate the thought of little people/alien children staring at me all the time and poking me, I'd get very angry.


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Posted:Thanks for that Dom hug

I admit to visiting the Karen tribes when in Thailand a couple of years ago.
It was one of those difficult things to do... you know these people are waiting on money from tourism to live, but at the same time, tourism is such an artificial way to keep a romantic idea alive.

I asked our guide about it. He shrugged and said the alternative to this lifestyle for them is worse. He gave our group an outline of the Karen history and suggested that if we bought things, to make sure it was from a number of different stalls, so everyone got something.

It was all rather sad frown


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animatEd
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Posted:I'd be all for the Zoo.

No work, Food brought to you, do nothing but play all day... How cool would that be?


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Kyrian


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Posted:The reason I wonder is because some prisons are very nice, you have libraries and computer and workout gyms, and some zoos are very crappy (think of big cats!)

So.... If I'm in a natural habitat zone like at omaha, than zoo. But if its a cage with people on the other side or a comfy prison, prison. And if the prison and zoo both suck.. zoo.


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Posted:prison - as i'm not serving as a clown or labrat for my perpetrators! censored 'em!

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Igirisujin
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Posted:Ide much rather be in a zoo than a prison because ive no desire (beleive it or not) to have 'propertie of Bubba' tatoo'd on my bum with a red hot biro pen.

On a lighter note, if ?I was in an alien zoo I would get to see aliens! woohoo *imagines its just like starwars, then dances for a pork chop*


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Posted:i'd live in a zoo, because in prison you have to do unmentionable favours just to keep your bed...............not the asena would complane hahahaubblol tongue

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Posted:I'd go for prison so I won't get stared at by alien children.

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Posted:share the cell?

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VampyricAcid
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Posted:i'd go for the zoo so i could defecate and throw it at kids

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Igirisujin
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Posted:Ive just had a thought, anyone of us hoppers coud be obducted by aliens one day and go around the galexy to perfrom Fire Poi to aliens, if they gave me Fire Poi in the zoo I might gret bought by an alien circus and become a celebrity in space lol

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Theo_
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Posted:i'd choose a zoo, because in prison, its all high security, but in a zoo, it would probably be easier to escape. dig a tunnel or something. but then i don't like the idea of being watched the whole time. maybe if i were in a zoo with lots of cool people that would be fun. untill we get sick of each other... but that could be the same with prison...

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Posted:Written by: Theo_

i'd choose a zoo, because in prison, its all high security, but in a zoo, it would probably be easier to escape. dig a tunnel or something. but then i don't like the idea of being watched the whole time. maybe if i were in a zoo with lots of cool people that would be fun. untill we get sick of each other... but that could be the same with prison...



Sounds a lot like Big Brother... Only somebody would be watching...

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