"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
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In a similar vein, it doesn't take into account relative skill levels - why should a carpenter with say 35 years of experience earn the same amount as an apprentice?
The work they do is going to be far superior - they should earn a suitably higher amount for it.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Written by: onewheeldave
Because most of those who spend three years at university rather than on a building site, get a fairly interesting and enjoyable three years- many don't do it purely to get a 'better' job, they do it for the student lifestyle.
Also, many of the jobs reserved for graduates these days, could be done by trained monkeys the stuff learnt on the course bears minimal relationship to the actual job.
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However, true craftspeople take pride in their work, and, if they becoame common-place again, job satisfaction and pride in the skills they'd developed, and pride in the crafted products they make, would easily compensate for the fact that their wages aren't vastly higher.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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That higher quality work that would be selling with a higher value, therefore getting someone more hours/money - why shouldn't the carpenter get that extra money? I reckon he's probably earnt it.
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Assume you'd been working as a web designer for years though...
Then assume that you'd created an almost pefect web page, one that looked fantastic, worked brilliantly and matched the specs exactly.
Would you be happy being paid the same amount as someone who'd been in the job for a couple of weeks and who made a page that was bland and uninteresting?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Fair luna bright, fair luna moon
it shines at night but fades too soon
fair luna moon, fair luna bright
forever we dance
we dance under starlight
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why should a building designer get paid the same as a craftsman who makes quality tables?
Because they're human beings of equal value, both doing jobs they love, and are well-suited to.
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
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Communism will never work because of human nature.
Basically. People think people should be earning different money for doing different jobs. and it will always be that way.
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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1. (...) If a fisherman fishes, a farmer farms and a cook cooks, ALL 3 will be better off in the end than if the cook fishes, the farmer cooks and the fisherman farms.
2. Now would it be better to share the yield communally ?
No, as ALL will be worse off. (...)
Or a group down the pub drinks more when buying rounds vs when each orders individually. (...)
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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why should a building designer get paid the same as a craftsman who makes quality tables?
Because they're human beings of equal value, both doing jobs they love, and are well-suited to.
The consequence of a building designer getting it wrong are a bit more serious. At best, having to do major structural alterations at a high cost, at worst, killing people. A leg falling off a table might do that under a very bizarre set of circumstances but otherwise...
At present my professional liability insurance stands at $5000000 against that sort of thing, it's part of that whole personal responsability I mentioned.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
Written by: Eera
The consequence of a building designer getting it wrong are a bit more serious. At best, having to do major structural alterations at a high cost, at worst, killing people. A leg falling off a table might do that under a very bizarre set of circumstances but otherwise...
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
Written by: MiG
Also, in agreeance with OWD, there should be checks in place. Plus, why should someone that's sitting in a comfortable environment, such as an airconditioned office, be paid any more or less than the person who has to go out and put that building up, possibly in adverse weather conditions, doing manual labour, having put three or more years of their life into learning the skills required to do so, on a minimum wage?
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Will those capable of telekinesis please raise my hand?
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Will those capable of telekinesis please raise my hand?
Will those capable of telekinesis please raise my hand?
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A political doctrine or movement based on Marxism and later developed by Lenin, seeking the overthrow of capitalism through a proletarian revolution; = MARXISM-LENINISM
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2. a. Applied to any practice which carries out this theory in whole or part
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so far there has not been truly communist state
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche