Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
It took a while, but once their numbers dropped from 50 down to 8, the other dwarves started to suspect Hungry.
Written by: NYC
I knew cyanide pills was a bad example.
Well, let's say that every Wallmart had one of those Dr. Kavorkian thingies. You'd really be OK with people signing a waver and then killing themselves?
I think there are many moments in people's lives where they'd hurt themselves if it was easy and accessable. It's certainly going to take more effort to hang one's self then just to drive to Wallmart.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: NYC
Well, let's say that every Wallmart had one of those Dr. Kavorkian thingies. You'd really be OK with people signing a waver and then killing themselves?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
i thought the point of the kevorkian machine was that once it was set up, its the patient that presses the sodium chloride button and does the actual deed?
yes, a doctor has to set up the machine and insert the i.v. but until the button is pressed the patient is fine.
morally that's no different to prescribing a potentially lethal dose of narcotics to someone and telling them how to use them to that that effect is it?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
i get ya but that still doesn't sound morally any different to me since the intention is the same in both cases - give a patient a means of ending their life.
in reality, if you know they are 'suicidal' do medical ethics not dictate that should you should keep their prescription sizes low enough so that there is no risk of overdose, accidental or intentional?
is that not a case of applied 'plausible deniability'?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
it seems nyc asked the same thing but better -
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: NYC
But you have prescribed a lethal dose of the medication. If you give someone an unloaded gun in one hand and bullets in the other and say "Don't use this", is that really different than giving them a loaded gun?
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And how could you support selling suicide at wallmart but not prescribing it yourself? Does it then fall on the walmart cashier?
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And would your fentanyl patch situation be different if you knew your patient was depressed? Suicidal? Previously suicidal but now only depressed?
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Again, at what point do we protect them from themselves?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
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--Rougie
Written by: Sethis
Isn't it a moot point? Anyone dedicated enough can kill themselves with a long tie pin. Granted, some things are more likely to be used in suicide than others, but regulation is not the method to deal with it.
I could kill myself with 3 different objects within a foot of me. Is that an argument for controlling their issue, or for counselling on my part?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: MiG
Like that picture of a road sign, saying: "WARNING: This sign has sharp edges"...
I think there is a point where we need to sit back and say to ourselves 'time for evolution to take over again.'
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
Someone once said that if more than 5% of the weight of a device or 5% of the cost is devoted to safety features, then it's either poorly designed or should require special training to use.
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