According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
It's a very interesting story, Future Boy....!
Written by: Hairy Tait
anyone who lets their friends know they want to do it,(commit suicide) is:
a) Crying out for help
.b) Attention seeking
.c) being completely selfish
*............AND........*
but people who are just a bit unhappy.... either do yourself in and amke all the people who love you devastated at your death
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Written by: TinklePants
Sadly, its the ones that succeed that cannot be helped, and normally there were no signs that he or she was about to take their own life.
There is a fine line between the two and it gets blurred alot.
The suicides that are "successful" are normally committed by selfish people. not caring how their death will affect others around them.
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Written by: Sethis
I'm definately not launching into personal attacks, I'm questioning what you said in your post. When I feel like calling you a g!t then I'll tell you in no uncertain terms
Written by: sethis
Thanks for the dedication, man.
According to you, then I should have said "Here's the number of a psychologist, stay the hell away from me."(...)
Accuse me of "Caring too much" and "Paying too much attention to attention seekers" all you want. I'm not going to walk away from a friend in need.
Written by: sethis
I have been a "wannabe helper". I have made friends with someone who had attempted suicide in the past, and still had problems self harming. There was every chance they might try again. According to you, then I should have said "Here's the number of a psychologist, stay the hell away from me." I didn't. I've stayed good friends with them for over 9 months, talking to them more or less every day, looking at their arms every time I saw them, seeing how the scars were getting less and less, and smaller and smaller as time went by. Finally they stopped altogether. The person had no professional help (through their own preference) and only had me and 1 other "real" friend to talk to. Their family (or what passes for it) didn't, and still doesn't know.
Written by: Sethis
Suicide most often happens in people who are less socially inclined. I.e. People who are depressed enough to contemplate it generally have very few friends they can turn to.
Written by: sethis
Now that they are somewhat better, the person has said that without me, the odds were about 60-40 in favour that they would have tried suicide again. They didn't. And now, hopefully, they can try to regain some kind of social life, make new friends and move on from a dark episode in their life. They know I took a risk to reach out to them, and they appreciate it. I know that now they would do the same for me. Friends. That's what the word means.
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: FireTom
WHERE do you find this in my post?
Written by: FireTom
keep the f***k out of it as much as possible!
Written by: FireTom
Your advice to the general audience is to step into a situation like such and "try"?
Written by: FireTom
keep the f***k out of it as much as possible! (my personal advice)
Written by: FireTom
Certainly I'm NOT giving you the "avatar" or "saint" - bonus you're might be trying to claim here.
Written by: FireTom
you made friends with someone who attempted suicide IN THE PAST... your choice...
Written by: FireTom
b) You made effort and spent time and attention for 9 months, while
c) this person had no professional help (through their own choice)...
Written by: FireTom
May I ASSUME, that there are problems rooted in the originating family?
Written by: FireTom
Problems that remain(ed) untouched?
Written by: FireTom
I (personally) have ceased to praise people who are not acting (self-)responsible.
Written by: FireTom
I have no compassion for "martyrs" (even though widely acknowledged) who totally neglect their surroundings and responsibilities (family and children for say) - "for these 15 minutes of fame"... you may or may not be able to "buy" your way through the pearly gates with what you have done - please do not expect any applause from me.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: Sethis
Simple statement of fact: I had a friend in trouble. I helped them.
Written by: Sethis
Unfortunately life isn't that easy.
Written by: Sethis
You're accusing me of being irresponsible? How so?
Written by: Sethis
What happened to the good old fashioned "Help at all costs"? What happened to risking your life to save a friend? What happened to considering other people *before* you?
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"Love thy neighbour (in this case my friend) as you love thyself..."
Written by: Sethis
Given the choice between fighting a Hydra alone, and having someone by your side, which would you prefer? (And that's a conscious analogy between a Hydra and Depression)
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: firetom
May I please advise you to scroll back to the initial post and the underlying reason? We're talking about a "User" here and we're talking about about someone who's "Sorry that his attempt was not successful"...
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Written by: FireTom
they are prone to "suck" other people who are not emotionally stable enough into their drag.
Written by: FireTom
are you right and I am wrong?
Written by: FireTom
This is how we find conclusions in times of problems (long term) - in the very moment we act instinctively (maybe you scroll to my initial post? - Thanks!) We learn through trial and error... In this case "error" means loosing some friend - would or would you not agree upon this?
Written by: FireTom
Personally I consider friends far to valuable to try my amateur skills of healing in a life threatening situation - when there is plenty of professional help available!
Written by: FireTom
So tell me Sethis, due to your help the problem is solved? The relationship within the family is proper now? I read the "case"/ "example" you're giving and YES to many it would be a REAL problem - also for me!
Hence to hide the problem from the parent might only have ben the solution HERE and NOW! In the long end it's not a solution, but to push the issue away - it will re-surface!
Written by: FireTomWritten by: Sethis
You're accusing me of being irresponsible? How so?
Where do I say that?
Written by: FireTom
I (personally) have ceased to praise people who are not acting (self-)responsible. I might (in my very own case) not step up the necessary actions - as I'm a blind man - for sure I do not advise anybody: "Go ahead and "try", "maybe" you'll succeed." - (if not at least you tried )
Written by: FireTom
Yes Sethis, tell me - what happened to it?
Written by: FireTom
stay the f*** away!
Written by: FireTom
I will help anyone in need (to the best of my?) very abilities.
Written by: FireTom
people will add a little more weight into your "experience"
Written by: FireTom
98% of the people I met so far, with my personal experience: I would rather fight it alone...
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You ain't never had a friend like me!
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
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After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
It may be your sole purpose in life to serve as a warning to others
Founder and Official leader of the Curby Clan
*Owner of Brenn*
Written by: FireTom
But in public: to indicate that I am neither sympathetic to .:star:. nor have personal experience with suicide-endangered people is offensive
Written by: Me
We're both very sympathetic to .:star:. and her friend.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: Sethis
Disrespect is not a verb. PLEASE don't contribute to the decay of the English language by using it as such. You mean you weren't saying it to be *disrespectful*. I'm not picking on you specifically, but god that use of the word annoys me.
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Written by: FireTom
I'm never running away from any friend who is in desperate need of help.
keep the f***k out of it as much as possible!
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: jo_rhymesWritten by: Hairy Tait
anyone who lets their friends know they want to do it,(commit suicide) is:
a) Crying out for help
.b) Attention seeking
.c) being completely selfish
*............AND........*
but people who are just a bit unhappy.... either do yourself in and amke all the people who love you devastated at your death
I find these comments offensive.
The utter desperation before an act of suicide is not selfish or attention seeking.
I've spoken to many people who all agree that when suicidal tendencies take over, you feel like you have no control. it is really really scary.
I agree that the best option is to speak to a loved one about how you feel, however this is so difficult and to a depressed person, loved ones won't want to know anyway.
An act of suicide can seem like a gesture of kindness "doing away with a burden" that kind of thing.
A suicidal person isn't trying to seek attention, but think about it, if someone is willing to overdose or slit their wrists, perhaps they need attention? Perhaps they need someone listen to their cries for help?
It's a very interesting story, Future Boy....!
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
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