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Posted:
hey everyone, hope your all cool and happy .
Ok, I have seen alot of people doing poi who are technically very advanced
and who are brilliant, but, who lack something which makes them look not
especially good. I have also seen people who are technically not
brilliant but, for whatever reason, look fantastic. Then, obviously,
there are the people who are brilliant and look brilliant .
This might sound very sexist, and I am sure there are acceptions , but
the best poiers I have seen, and know, are women. I don't know why but, and I am
thinking about two friends in particular, the way they do it, there style so
to speak, is just alot better than any men I have seen . This makes them look
better even though they may not be technically superior .
One could also say (as james ernest does in his book "contact juggling")
that as poiers we have three kinds of trick:
tricks learned to impress the public, i.e. tricks that look harder than they actually are.Tricks that are harder than they actually seem which we learn to impress fellow poiersand tricks that are as hard as they look.Can one simply do the first category of trick and still look, even to the
trained eye of a fellow poier , better than someone who can complete all
three categories with out as much style?
So, is it what we do or how we do it that really determines how good we look .
I put this matter to the floor.
[garbo]
[ 27. November 2002, 01:09: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
[ 28. November 2002, 00:41: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
hey everyone, hope your all cool and happy .
Ok, I have seen alot of people doing poi who are technically very advanced
and who are brilliant, but, who lack something which makes them look not
especially good. I have also seen people who are technically not
brilliant but, for whatever reason, look fantastic. Then, obviously,
there are the people who are brilliant and look brilliant .
This might sound very sexist, and I am sure there are acceptions , but
the best poiers I have seen, and know, are women. I don't know why but, and I am
thinking about two friends in particular, the way they do it, there style so
to speak, is just alot better than any men I have seen . This makes them look
better even though they may not be technically superior .
One could also say (as james ernest does in his book "contact juggling")
that as poiers we have three kinds of trick:
tricks learned to impress the public, i.e. tricks that look harder than they actually are.Tricks that are harder than they actually seem which we learn to impress fellow poiersand tricks that are as hard as they look.Can one simply do the first category of trick and still look, even to the
trained eye of a fellow poier , better than someone who can complete all
three categories with out as much style?
So, is it what we do or how we do it that really determines how good we look .
I put this matter to the floor.
[garbo]
[ 27. November 2002, 01:09: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
[ 28. November 2002, 00:41: Message edited by: [garbo] ]
be excellent to each other: safe:
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
Posted:
I have seen quite a few spinners about. Some do not very much, very well, and some do loads, not so well.
For me, the ones who have a grasp of the dance and rythm behind poi AND the ability to chuck in quircky spins and tricky moves are the ones that look the best.
The spinning keeps me mesmirised while the tricks make me go - "shit! how'd they do...?"
Everything in moderation I say.
I have seen quite a few spinners about. Some do not very much, very well, and some do loads, not so well.
For me, the ones who have a grasp of the dance and rythm behind poi AND the ability to chuck in quircky spins and tricky moves are the ones that look the best.
The spinning keeps me mesmirised while the tricks make me go - "shit! how'd they do...?"
Everything in moderation I say.
quote:I fit into this category
Then, obviously, there are the people who are brilliant and look brilliant
Geologists do it in the dirt................ 
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
hehe Jedi moves impress the pants off me (please don't ask)
but what really humbles me is the skillful graceful modest twirlers!!
skill is good
grace is great!
but humility is my favourite attribute for a twirler - hell for a person!! it takes the most work imho.
and no i am not knocking skill. i simply love it less than i do grace + humilty + sexiness.
okay my 4 main weapons are grace, humility, sexiness and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.
..i'll come in again...
hehe Jedi moves impress the pants off me (please don't ask)
but what really humbles me is the skillful graceful modest twirlers!!
skill is good
grace is great!
but humility is my favourite attribute for a twirler - hell for a person!! it takes the most work imho.
and no i am not knocking skill. i simply love it less than i do grace + humilty + sexiness.
okay my 4 main weapons are grace, humility, sexiness and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.
..i'll come in again...
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Posted:
So can grace, style etc be learned or are some doomed to look not as
good as they actually are.
[garbo]
So can grace, style etc be learned or are some doomed to look not as
good as they actually are.
[garbo]
be excellent to each other: safe:
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,638 posts
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
Posted:
honestly?
I think some are just doomed.
Obviusly you can improve - but the ones blessed with the ability to move beautifully didn't learn it - they were born with it. It flows naturally from within.
eep! That makes me sound nasty. It's just waht I think - tis all.
honestly?
I think some are just doomed.
Obviusly you can improve - but the ones blessed with the ability to move beautifully didn't learn it - they were born with it. It flows naturally from within.
eep! That makes me sound nasty. It's just waht I think - tis all.
Geologists do it in the dirt................
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Liquid Cow
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Location: High Wycombe, England
Liquid Cow
2,629 posts
Location: High Wycombe, England
Posted:
curse you garbo, after reading that thread title, I've got bananarama singing 'it aint what you do it's the way that you do it' in my head, over and over again
I'd have to agree with fnf on this - but I wouldn't go so far as to say people without natural grace and style are doomed.
I think it's the same with things like dancing, painting or pretty much anything: given time and dedication, anyone can become really good at what they do, but it takes the extra spark of natural talent to be great.
curse you garbo, after reading that thread title, I've got bananarama singing 'it aint what you do it's the way that you do it' in my head, over and over again
I'd have to agree with fnf on this - but I wouldn't go so far as to say people without natural grace and style are doomed.
I think it's the same with things like dancing, painting or pretty much anything: given time and dedication, anyone can become really good at what they do, but it takes the extra spark of natural talent to be great.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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