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We had a "pedantic" thread back a while ago where the goal was to write whatever...as long as it was in perfect grammatically correct English.
We're not asking for that.
But for many readers of this board, English is not their first language. And for some of us, who learned to read and write properly
it's very difficult to decipher a mess of gibberish with no punctuation, abbreviations up the wazoo (eg: "u shud cum 2 my house im havin a partee coz its my birfday an well get v drunk"), and spelling that is...original.
Now I grant this isn't my high school Honors English class, but PLEASE have the decency to at least try to use correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar? Really, we all learned these basics in (forgive me) grammar school.
We had a "pedantic" thread back a while ago where the goal was to write whatever...as long as it was in perfect grammatically correct English.
We're not asking for that.
But for many readers of this board, English is not their first language. And for some of us, who learned to read and write properly
it's very difficult to decipher a mess of gibberish with no punctuation, abbreviations up the wazoo (eg: "u shud cum 2 my house im havin a partee coz its my birfday an well get v drunk"), and spelling that is...original.Now I grant this isn't my high school Honors English class, but PLEASE have the decency to at least try to use correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar? Really, we all learned these basics in (forgive me) grammar school.
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Americans don't really speak english do they?
But then again, I don't like what the English do with it either.
Jeff (Born in the USA)
Americans don't really speak english do they?
But then again, I don't like what the English do with it either.
Jeff (Born in the USA)
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Mike - I take it you aren't the only one bothered by this?
I have issues with it too - it's highly annoying!
As a kid I was the class dictionary - from when I was something like 9, right up to when i left school (at 15
)
though out my secondary education though, I was annoyed how people couldn't punctuate.
Was it the results of living in a simplistic village in Wales (inbreeding?
) ??
Probably!
Mike - I take it you aren't the only one bothered by this?
I have issues with it too - it's highly annoying!
As a kid I was the class dictionary - from when I was something like 9, right up to when i left school (at 15
)though out my secondary education though, I was annoyed how people couldn't punctuate.
Was it the results of living in a simplistic village in Wales (inbreeding?
) ?? Probably!
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some people actually cant help it and here in uk we dont have grammer school just english lessons...
im dyslexic to the extent i drop punctuation a lot and i get certain words and there spellings mixed up like beleive/ believe
but i am learning not to use text language
some people actually cant help it and here in uk we dont have grammer school just english lessons...
im dyslexic to the extent i drop punctuation a lot and i get certain words and there spellings mixed up like beleive/ believe
but i am learning not to use text language
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Me too. English isnt my first language, but is much easier language for me, than Czech.
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im dyslexic to the extent i drop punctuation a lot and i get certain words and there spellings mixed up like beleive/ believe
Me too. English isnt my first language, but is much easier language for me, than Czech.
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I get incredably annoyed about this - as I've posted in a number of threads, if you don't consider your thoughts to be worth writing out in an easy to understand format, why should anyone else consider them worth decyphering?
Ok, here's where I'll probably pick up some bad opinion - I don't think dyslexia is a valid excuse.
In fact, I think using it as one is just lazy and defeatist.
Effectively, it's saying 'I find this difficult, so I'm going to give up, make no effort at all and just make excuses instead'. I don't think that's a particularly good attitude to have, whether it be about spelling and grammar or anything else.
Now, I'm not saying that dyslexia == laziness, I know dyslexic people who make the effort needed to write easy to read posts, even if that's just adding blank lines to break the text up a bit.
As an example, I found dani_babyboo's post easy to read - it's not all heaped into one mass of text, it's broken up into readable sections, and all it took was a couple of extra button pushes.
It's not perfect, but if it's easy to read and gets the point across well, spelling mistakes and dropped punctuation can be given a bit of leeway I think.
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I get incredably annoyed about this - as I've posted in a number of threads, if you don't consider your thoughts to be worth writing out in an easy to understand format, why should anyone else consider them worth decyphering?
Written by: dani_babyboo
some people actually cant help it and here in uk we dont have grammer school just english lessons...
im dyslexic to the extent i drop punctuation a lot and i get certain words and there spellings mixed up like beleive/ believe
but i am learning not to use text language
Ok, here's where I'll probably pick up some bad opinion - I don't think dyslexia is a valid excuse.
In fact, I think using it as one is just lazy and defeatist.
Effectively, it's saying 'I find this difficult, so I'm going to give up, make no effort at all and just make excuses instead'. I don't think that's a particularly good attitude to have, whether it be about spelling and grammar or anything else.
Now, I'm not saying that dyslexia == laziness, I know dyslexic people who make the effort needed to write easy to read posts, even if that's just adding blank lines to break the text up a bit.
As an example, I found dani_babyboo's post easy to read - it's not all heaped into one mass of text, it's broken up into readable sections, and all it took was a couple of extra button pushes.
It's not perfect, but if it's easy to read and gets the point across well, spelling mistakes and dropped punctuation can be given a bit of leeway I think.
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I went to a Grammar School (in the UK) but the people who went to the comprehensive could still write... well... some of them could... a bit...
Yes it irritates me having to mentally insert punctuation/spelling into other people's writing.
Dani- You spelt "believe" correctly there, deliberately. Doesn't that indicate that you can do it whenever? Or do I not know anything about dyslexia? Well, I don't know very much about dyslexia anyway, but if you can spell something right one time, then how does it change for the next?
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I went to a Grammar School (in the UK) but the people who went to the comprehensive could still write... well... some of them could... a bit...
Yes it irritates me having to mentally insert punctuation/spelling into other people's writing.
Dani- You spelt "believe" correctly there, deliberately. Doesn't that indicate that you can do it whenever? Or do I not know anything about dyslexia? Well, I don't know very much about dyslexia anyway, but if you can spell something right one time, then how does it change for the next?
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Dyslexia is not an excuse. I'm dyslexic - apparently - doesn't stop me from making an effort. Nor does it stop me from being in the top English set at school, or getting an A* in English GCSE
Interestingly enough, most of the teenagers here don't actually do it anymore. S'all you old folks. Its not big, and its not clever... and it certainly isn't cool. Get with the times.
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Dyslexia is not an excuse. I'm dyslexic - apparently
- doesn't stop me from making an effort. Nor does it stop me from being in the top English set at school, or getting an A* in English GCSE Interestingly enough, most of the teenagers here don't actually do it anymore. S'all you old folks. Its not big, and its not clever... and it certainly isn't cool. Get with the times.
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I doubt this thread is aimed at dyslexics Dani, rather people who really couldn't give a crap when it takes all of 30 seconds to copy paste into word to use the spelling and grammar checker, if that person knows his/her spelling/grammar is poor.
Note: this will not always help dyslexics (so I'm not picking on you guys!), depending on the form, as spelling can be an issue with homophones, and word's grammar checker often only comes up with 'consider revising' for more than minor grammatical errors.
p.s.... anyone else feeling pressurised into writing very, very carefully spelling and grammar-wise in this thread?
I doubt this thread is aimed at dyslexics Dani, rather people who really couldn't give a crap when it takes all of 30 seconds to copy paste into word to use the spelling and grammar checker, if that person knows his/her spelling/grammar is poor.
Note: this will not always help dyslexics (so I'm not picking on you guys!), depending on the form, as spelling can be an issue with homophones, and word's grammar checker often only comes up with 'consider revising' for more than minor grammatical errors.
p.s.... anyone else feeling pressurised into writing very, very carefully spelling and grammar-wise in this thread?
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Dyslexia is not an exuse. I'm dyslexic - apparently
Interestingly enough, most of the teenagers here don't actually do it anymore. S'all you old folks. Its not big, and its not clever... and it certainly isn't cool. Get with the times.
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There are many different ways dyslexia effects people. I too am dyslexic. I find the written word fairly hard to use. I find it very hard to put into text my thoughts. It all gets jumbled up. Grammar is my downfall. Not because I don't understand the rules. It's more I can't
find ways of applying the rules to what I write.
Spelling is very hard. I was taught to read mainly by learning word pictures in my head. Words that I write and I read over and over again are like shapes I recognise. If a word isn't spelt correctly or isn't one I've seen often I find it really hard to work out what it is. If I spell a word wrongly I can usually tell it's not spelt right but I can't for the life of me tell you how to put it right. I find phonetically sounding out words hard unless they are split up into syllables like Hipp-o-pot-am-us. Lots of letters all strung together without spaces make no sense to me. The same goes for numbers. Long strings of numbers I find very hard to deal with, hence I can't quote my mobile phone number to you. I have no idea what it is. I learn phone numbers by dialling them and remembering the pattern they make on the phone keypad.
It's the same with text. If there are no breaks, or commas, or full stops in a piece of text I find it really hard to figure out what is being said. I need the spaces and the punctuation to indicate to me where one thing ends and a new one begin. Otherwise the words all just end up running into each other.
Text speak leaves me confused and takes me ages to figure out what's being said.
Form filling is my idea of hell, because I can never be concise enough to get what I want to say into those little boxes. I'm also not very good at visualising how much space what I want to write will take up.
Being dyslexic isn't an excuse for not trying to use grammar, punctuation and correct spelling. If anything it should make you want to use all of them more. You as a dyslexic know how hard the written word is to understand at the best of times. Leaving out all the commas, full stops and correct spelling will just make it harder for someone else.
There are many different ways dyslexia effects people. I too am dyslexic. I find the written word fairly hard to use. I find it very hard to put into text my thoughts. It all gets jumbled up. Grammar is my downfall. Not because I don't understand the rules. It's more I can't
find ways of applying the rules to what I write.
Spelling is very hard. I was taught to read mainly by learning word pictures in my head. Words that I write and I read over and over again are like shapes I recognise. If a word isn't spelt correctly or isn't one I've seen often I find it really hard to work out what it is. If I spell a word wrongly I can usually tell it's not spelt right but I can't for the life of me tell you how to put it right. I find phonetically sounding out words hard unless they are split up into syllables like Hipp-o-pot-am-us. Lots of letters all strung together without spaces make no sense to me. The same goes for numbers. Long strings of numbers I find very hard to deal with, hence I can't quote my mobile phone number to you. I have no idea what it is. I learn phone numbers by dialling them and remembering the pattern they make on the phone keypad.
It's the same with text. If there are no breaks, or commas, or full stops in a piece of text I find it really hard to figure out what is being said. I need the spaces and the punctuation to indicate to me where one thing ends and a new one begin. Otherwise the words all just end up running into each other.
Text speak leaves me confused and takes me ages to figure out what's being said.
Form filling is my idea of hell, because I can never be concise enough to get what I want to say into those little boxes. I'm also not very good at visualising how much space what I want to write will take up.
Being dyslexic isn't an excuse for not trying to use grammar, punctuation and correct spelling. If anything it should make you want to use all of them more. You as a dyslexic know how hard the written word is to understand at the best of times. Leaving out all the commas, full stops and correct spelling will just make it harder for someone else.
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I hate people who can't be assed to punctuate, though I have to say it can be quite cute, like using 't' instead of 'the' n stuff.
I've known a few dyslexic people, and with a few of them is was simply laziness, one guy was getting like extra money from college for supposed dyslexia but he really was just lunching the whole thing, used to drive me mad 'cause he didn't actually care.
I do know people who have trouble with how to construct & manipulate sentences to make them easier to read though, but only with written language, they have no trouble with spoken language.
I hate people who can't be assed to punctuate, though I have to say it can be quite cute, like using 't' instead of 'the' n stuff.
I've known a few dyslexic people, and with a few of them is was simply laziness, one guy was getting like extra money from college for supposed dyslexia but he really was just lunching the whole thing, used to drive me mad 'cause he didn't actually care.
I do know people who have trouble with how to construct & manipulate sentences to make them easier to read though, but only with written language, they have no trouble with spoken language.
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Skully, you're posts are always precise and grammatically correct - you shouldn't worry about form-filling, i ALWAYS fluff them up too - Since I was in school taking exams, I've always filled out forms in pencil first, gone over them with biro, then rubbed out the graphite
P.S. and still I've gone outside of the box/ruled line boundaries!
Skully, you're posts are always precise and grammatically correct - you shouldn't worry about form-filling, i ALWAYS fluff them up too - Since I was in school taking exams, I've always filled out forms in pencil first, gone over them with biro, then rubbed out the graphite
P.S. and still I've gone outside of the box/ruled line boundaries!
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I'm dyslexic, I struggled with my language skills and as such want my spelling, grammer and punctuation right (or if not right then acceptable). It irratates me when other people don't make the effort.
Think I'm just rehashing what Skully said
I'm dyslexic, I struggled with my language skills and as such want my spelling, grammer and punctuation right (or if not right then acceptable). It irratates me when other people don't make the effort.
Think I'm just rehashing what Skully said
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I'm not asking for the point of being pedantic. I'm asking literally because it's difficult for me to read some of this txt spk.
Written by: dani_babyboo
some people actually cant help it and here in uk we dont have grammer school just english lessons...
im dyslexic to the extent i drop punctuation a lot and i get certain words and there spellings mixed up like beleive/ believe
but i am learning not to use text language
I'm not asking for the point of being pedantic. I'm asking literally because it's difficult for me to read some of this txt spk.
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Does that mean I have to start typing 'laugh out loud' instead of 'lol' now?
or can i jst cary on in my txt spk cos tht is soooo much eezier!!
Does that mean I have to start typing 'laugh out loud' instead of 'lol' now?
or can i jst cary on in my txt spk cos tht is soooo much eezier!!
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lol is for lame asses anyways
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Please, no more txt speak - it's hard to understand, incredably annoying and, unless you're using a mobile phone keypad to type, incredably lazy - your keyboard has plenty of keys, you might as well use them.
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Does that mean I have to start typing 'laugh out loud' instead of 'lol' now?
or can i jst cary on in my txt spk cos tht is soooo much eezier!!
Please, no more txt speak - it's hard to understand, incredably annoying and, unless you're using a mobile phone keypad to type, incredably lazy - your keyboard has plenty of keys, you might as well use them.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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IMO genuine spelling mistakes/slips in grammar are fine; what's annoying is some of the ranting/rambling posts that have appeared recently, particularly the ones that are a big single text block with no breaks. Generally I don't bother reading them because they are, to me, unreadable.
As for lol- I do, as do many others, know what it means, but there was a time when i didn't, and it was annoying to see it then- purely because it meant nothing, and also because it's one of those things that tends to mark out a kind of little club (ie those who know what these things mean).
Then again, writing it out in full is tedious- why not post a smilie instead, that's what they're there for.
IMO genuine spelling mistakes/slips in grammar are fine; what's annoying is some of the ranting/rambling posts that have appeared recently, particularly the ones that are a big single text block with no breaks. Generally I don't bother reading them because they are, to me, unreadable.
As for lol- I do, as do many others, know what it means, but there was a time when i didn't, and it was annoying to see it then- purely because it meant nothing, and also because it's one of those things that tends to mark out a kind of little club (ie those who know what these things mean).
Then again, writing it out in full is tedious- why not post a smilie instead, that's what they're there for.
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I must admit I slip into text speak sometimes. I do try not to though (depends on how drunk I am ).
I hate trying to type in a text with a mobile phone, I find it much easier to write in full using a web to text site with the computer.
As far as using "lol" is concerned, isn't that what
can be used for?
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I must admit I slip into text speak sometimes. I do try not to though (depends on how drunk I am
).I hate trying to type in a text with a mobile phone, I find it much easier to write in full using a web to text site with the computer.
As far as using "lol" is concerned, isn't that what
can be used for?PS: I hope everyone can read this okay...
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Please, no more txt speak - it's hard to understand, incredably annoying and, unless you're using a mobile phone keypad to type, incredably lazy - your keyboard has plenty of keys, you might as well use them.
Incredibly
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i type like a fool so im not going to even get into this one
p.s. i had to make 6 typing corrections in the edit of this post
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i type like a fool so im not going to even get into this one
p.s. i had to make 6 typing corrections in the edit of this post
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That's a lot of typing corrections! So I figured I'd do the rest for you^^^! (It was another 5).
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I type like a fool so I'm not going to even get into this one.
p.s. I had to make 6 typing corrections in the edit of this post
That's a lot of typing corrections! So I figured I'd do the rest for you^^^!
(It was another 5).See you tomorrow Will
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I'm quite happy to admit that my spelling's not perfect, but at least the word had the right number of letters
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Please, no more txt speak - it's hard to understand, incredably annoying and, unless you're using a mobile phone keypad to type, incredably lazy - your keyboard has plenty of keys, you might as well use them.
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I'm quite happy to admit that my spelling's not perfect, but at least the word had the right number of letters
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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Humm I think this may be a first. I may have to disagree with you bov
I am very dyslexic so whenever I can I type my posts out in MS-word first (this accounts for me not posting often as it just takes so dam long)
This is not always possible dew to time constraints or the computer in question not having any word processing capabilities (all the computers at work).
Sorry I'm running of topic the point I wanted to make was most of my posts have spelling mistakes and very bad punctuation and gramma not because I'm lazy but because I physically don’t know how and where to put things other than capitals and full stops.
I always proof reed my posts and to me they look right. Even if completely the wrong word is in a sentence my brain sees it as correct.
Many words just elude me sending texts is a nightmare I often have to use different words to try to convey the same meaning as I cant even begin to construct to one I want to use (ask any one I’ve txted)
I do try to make my posts readable but more often than not I just give up part way through a reply because I get cross and frustrated with myself al lose track of what I was trying to say.
(total time to construct this reply 12min about)
Humm I think this may be a first. I may have to disagree with you bov
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Ok, here's where I'll probably pick up some bad opinion - I don't think dyslexia is a valid excuse.
In fact, I think using it as one is just lazy and defeatist.
I am very dyslexic so whenever I can I type my posts out in MS-word first (this accounts for me not posting often as it just takes so dam long)
This is not always possible dew to time constraints or the computer in question not having any word processing capabilities (all the computers at work).
Sorry I'm running of topic the point I wanted to make was most of my posts have spelling mistakes and very bad punctuation and gramma not because I'm lazy but because I physically don’t know how and where to put things other than capitals and full stops.
I always proof reed my posts and to me they look right. Even if completely the wrong word is in a sentence my brain sees it as correct.
Many words just elude me sending texts is a nightmare I often have to use different words to try to convey the same meaning as I cant even begin to construct to one I want to use (ask any one I’ve txted)
I do try to make my posts readable but more often than not I just give up part way through a reply because I get cross and frustrated with myself al lose track of what I was trying to say.
(total time to construct this reply 12min about)
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
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Proof there that you're not using dyslexia as an excuse - you make an effort to make yourself understood.
I reckon that genuine mistakes (whether caused by dyslexia or not) are easily overlooked. However, not taking the time to proof read or run a spell check is really just lazy, whether you're dyslexic or not.
Making a post and saying 'I'm sorry if there are mistakes, I'm dyslexic and even though I've tried, some mistakes creep through' is a hell of a lot different to saying 'I'm dyslexic, so I don't need to make the effort to check my spelling because I have an excuse I can fall back on'.
It's only the latter that I have a problem with.
edit.. on the topic of dyslexia, I read recently that trials of teaching dyslexic children to read with one eye closed are working quite well.
The theory is that dyslexics tend to have eyes that don't quite focus on the same place, so when one is looking at the start of a word, the other is looking at the end - so the brain gets a picture of a jumble of letters.
I find it very interesting that something that's so widespread could potentially be helped loads by something so simple
EDITED_BY: TheBovrilMonkey (1135472653)
Written by: Mint Sauce
whenever I can I type my posts out in MS-word first
I always proof reed my posts and to me they look right.
I do try to make my posts readable
Proof there that you're not using dyslexia as an excuse - you make an effort to make yourself understood.
I reckon that genuine mistakes (whether caused by dyslexia or not) are easily overlooked. However, not taking the time to proof read or run a spell check is really just lazy, whether you're dyslexic or not.
Making a post and saying 'I'm sorry if there are mistakes, I'm dyslexic and even though I've tried, some mistakes creep through' is a hell of a lot different to saying 'I'm dyslexic, so I don't need to make the effort to check my spelling because I have an excuse I can fall back on'.
It's only the latter that I have a problem with.
edit.. on the topic of dyslexia, I read recently that trials of teaching dyslexic children to read with one eye closed are working quite well.
The theory is that dyslexics tend to have eyes that don't quite focus on the same place, so when one is looking at the start of a word, the other is looking at the end - so the brain gets a picture of a jumble of letters.
I find it very interesting that something that's so widespread could potentially be helped loads by something so simple
EDITED_BY: TheBovrilMonkey (1135472653)
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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agreed
agreed
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
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Humm interesting theory (dyslexia comes in many diferant forms i think)
My dyslexia also runs into my mathematical ability and the way I think though.
I have virtually no mental arithmetic. Given any to numbers I cant add them together without using my fingers or picturing it in my head.
Yes even 2 + 4 I have to go 4 + 1 =5 then 5+1=6. I cant do any times tables only 2, 5, and 10
But you give me a further maths problem like long division or quadratic equations and I can do them no bother.
I have a mechanically structured brain I'm in the top 2 % of the country for mechanical aptitude. I have to visualise everting if I cant visualise it I'm stuffed…
eddited for spelling
sorry totaly
EDITED_BY: Mint Sauce (1135473259)
Humm interesting theory (dyslexia comes in many diferant forms i think)
My dyslexia also runs into my mathematical ability and the way I think though.
I have virtually no mental arithmetic. Given any to numbers I cant add them together without using my fingers or picturing it in my head.
Yes even 2 + 4 I have to go 4 + 1 =5 then 5+1=6. I cant do any times tables only 2, 5, and 10
But you give me a further maths problem like long division or quadratic equations and I can do them no bother.
I have a mechanically structured brain I'm in the top 2 % of the country for mechanical aptitude. I have to visualise everting if I cant visualise it I'm stuffed…
eddited for spelling
sorry totaly
EDITED_BY: Mint Sauce (1135473259)
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
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I've got to say that "lol" can some times really, really irratate me lol
Far too often I've seen people use it as some kind of punctuation lol
Surely a full stop / period / . would be easier lol
I'll admit, rarely is somthing so funny that I burst into mirth at the end of every sentance lol
I've got to say that "lol" can some times really, really irratate me lol
Far too often I've seen people use it as some kind of punctuation lol
Surely a full stop / period / . would be easier lol
I'll admit, rarely is somthing so funny that I burst into mirth at the end of every sentance lol
Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I can beat the world into submission.
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Although Bill Cosby routines often do trick lol.
Although Bill Cosby routines often do trick lol.
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