-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: coleman
holding the union accountable for those deaths is even less logical to my mind - it is not the job of public transport workers to redcuce the number of accidents on the road.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: NYC
Well first the MTA offered them a 3% raise over one year, then a 6% raise over 2 years... then a 9% raise over 3 years.
Isn't that basically the cost of living adjustment anyway?!
Still chaos. See what happens Tuesday.
"If you didn't like something the first time, the cud won't be any good either." --Elsie the Cow, Ruminations
Written by: coleman
i don't think the transport workers, the union reps or the union as a whole should be held responsible for any deaths attributed to them because of increased traffic levels on the day of a strike.
i don't even understand how this allocation of increased deaths on the day of a strike could possibly be applied.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Don't mind me, just passing through.
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: coleman
i don't even understand how this allocation of increased deaths on the day of a strike could possibly be applied.
Well, the same way that increased deaths would happen if doctors went on strike could be applied.
See, if you can't get to the hospital, that's just as bad as having no hospital.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: NYC
OK, my new favorite thing now is looking at AOL and seeing what the morons over there think. It's absolutely elistist of me but it's such an easy guilty pleasure... check it out if you're bored at work...
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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Written by: jeff(fake)Written by: NYC
OK, my new favorite thing now is looking at AOL and seeing what the morons over there think. It's absolutely elistist of me but it's such an easy guilty pleasure... check it out if you're bored at work...
Sadly HoP doesn't support increased text sizes but...
[size=18]all union are out dated.thay are the dinosaur of the passed[/size](sic)
Were would we be without our articulate and persuasive cousins in America. That was an entire post as well.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
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Yes, let's go.
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"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: coleman
okay, i understand that if a patient can't get to the hospital, they can't get treatment but i don't undertstand how you can directly blame a single transit worker for that loss of treatment and their subsequent death.
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and that raises the larger question: if a patient is so sick that they die as a result of missing just one visit to the hospital, why are they catching a bus rather than being picked up in an ambulance to get to their treatment in the first place?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
Oh, and patients with non-emergent problems who require regular clinic visits to get their narcotic prescriptions? What do they do now?
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: Birgit
plan ahead and not leave their prescriptions to the last possible day?
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Yes, let's go.
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"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
i think that making uwarranted changes to their pension, benefits and pay without proper union consultation was not a sensible move, and the mta (and nyc at large as a result) are paying the price for it today.
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Dance like it hurts; Love like you need money; Work like someone is watching.
Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. That way, when you DO criticize them, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes.
Written by: BirgitWritten by: Doc Lightning
Oh, and patients with non-emergent problems who require regular clinic visits to get their narcotic prescriptions? What do they do now?
plan ahead and not leave their prescriptions to the last possible day?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: coleman
its a tricky debate, especially now that the strike has been declared illegal by a judge but i still don't think that effectively calling the striking workers 'murderers' is at all fair.
mike, your example of the 17 year old shot on the street and the fact that you think its appropriate to hold the transit workers that caused the traffic jams that day accountable for his death is a poor one i feel.
what about the police that failed to protect him in the first place - which is actually the main part of their job - are they not more accountable for not doing their job adequately in the first place?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
It's not generally their perogative. And since you can't call in narcotics, how do they get them if they do have the scrip? Walk to the drugstore?
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"Recently, Pennsylvania’s legislature voted to raise their pay. Pennsylvania lawmakers are now the second best compensated state representatives and senators among the fifty states. The Heritage Foundation breaks down the numbers: The pay increase for lawmakers increases base pay 16% from $69,647 to $81,050. Committee chairmen pay increased by 28% to $89,155, and committee vice-chairmen pay increased by 22% to $85,103. Majority and minority leaders' pay increased 24% from $100,911 to $124,788. Pay for the Speaker of the House and Senate President Pro Tempore increased 34% from $108,724 to $145,553. Following the late night vote, there has been a consistent wave of letters to the editor and editorial columns denouncing the hikes. There is a lawsuit pending challenging the constitutionality of the increase..."
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by: FireTom
Re. demanding wage increase of 26% is immoral...
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