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Zebberdy and Jack Daniels
278 posts
Location: Swansea, south wales
Zebberdy and Jack Daniels
278 posts
Location: Swansea, south wales
Posted:
The problem is i got pretty major love handles. so i can't cross my arms enough. anytips?
The problem is i got pretty major love handles. so i can't cross my arms enough. anytips?
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Location: Netherlands
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Location: Netherlands
Posted:
Should'nt be a problem. I'd say start with having your planes in more of a V shape rather than paralell. I'd also suggest starting with your poi spinning backwards.
And after that the only advice i have is practice, practice, practice. And when you get board of that browse the forum, there are loads of wise words out there just waiting to be read.
Gluck
Should'nt be a problem. I'd say start with having your planes in more of a V shape rather than paralell. I'd also suggest starting with your poi spinning backwards.
And after that the only advice i have is practice, practice, practice. And when you get board of that browse the forum, there are loads of wise words out there just waiting to be read.
Gluck
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Posted:
P.S check the 'helpful advice threads' thread at the top of the forum
P.S check the 'helpful advice threads' thread at the top of the forum
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: Canada
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Posted:
Major love handles, now there's honesty for you Along with what Mot said, the best advice I ever read on getting this move was to move forward using tiny steps.
When your poi go over to your left side, take a small step forward with your left foot, when they switch to the right, you get the idea. It may help to pretend your clenching a dime between the cheeks of your butt , just as an aid to keeping it out of the way.
This is how I learned it, and I managed to drop the constipated mincing thing a few days later but it stll feels like a move that I have to force at times.
good luck
Major love handles, now there's honesty for you
Along with what Mot said, the best advice I ever read on getting this move was to move forward using tiny steps.When your poi go over to your left side, take a small step forward with your left foot, when they switch to the right, you get the idea. It may help to pretend your clenching a dime between the cheeks of your butt , just as an aid to keeping it out of the way.
This is how I learned it, and I managed to drop the constipated mincing thing a few days later but it stll feels like a move that I have to force at times.
good luck
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Posted:
say hello to brused ankles and the back of your head might get a bit sore, but yeah try and angle your planes and practice sticking your arm right across your back, try holding your elbow on the opposite side behind your back
say hello to brused ankles and the back of your head might get a bit sore, but yeah try and angle your planes and practice sticking your arm right across your back, try holding your elbow on the opposite side behind your back
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I could be cheeky and say lose weight but that wouldnt be very nice of me
5 months trying the btb weave and i still clout myself in the ear or eye.
Is there hope? who knows! stay tuned....
I could be cheeky and say lose weight but that wouldnt be very nice of me
5 months trying the btb weave and i still clout myself in the ear or eye.
Is there hope? who knows! stay tuned....
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HOP librarian
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
Practise first single hand motions, to clear your planes. Than put your hands together and spin with them together in parallel time. Than try slowly to split your sinchronized hand timing. Than you'll be very close to Figure 8 behind the back(BTB) than is the beginning for BTB Weave.
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Practise first single hand motions, to clear your planes. Than put your hands together and spin with them together in parallel time. Than try slowly to split your sinchronized hand timing. Than you'll be very close to Figure 8 behind the back(BTB) than is the beginning for BTB Weave.
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not different, just not the same
263 posts
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
not different, just not the same
263 posts
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Posted:
i'll give you the advice i give everyone about this. And so far its worked for anyone i've shown/told. practice the move one handed with poi to get planes down (like Richee said). but getting the 2 handed part is hard to people, so go get/buy/find TWO dowelrods/cardboard tubes/sticks and practice the motion with THOSE. this will help avoid all the nasty bruises a bit and also allow you to drill the movements into your muscle memory. Just be sure and use yours wrists. This also will allow you to see WHERE you are screwing up the planes and make sure your hands are where they need to be.
The hardest part (in my opinion) is getting the motions down, at first they seem somewhat counter intuitive to most people, but practice with the sticks and you will get it. And the other thing is the arm stretching. It REALLY helps to do a good arm warmup first to get your shoulders and upper arms used to stretching that far around. Be ready for soreness when you first really start learning it.
also it helps when learning to bend forward a bit so as to give your poi/sticks more room to spin without your head in the way. However once learned, the leaning is not necessary at all, provided you can stretch your arms well.
hope it helps, let us know how it goes. If ya can't get it, fly to Charlotte NC and i'll demonstrate for ya lol ;-)
i'll give you the advice i give everyone about this. And so far its worked for anyone i've shown/told. practice the move one handed with poi to get planes down (like Richee said). but getting the 2 handed part is hard to people, so go get/buy/find TWO dowelrods/cardboard tubes/sticks and practice the motion with THOSE. this will help avoid all the nasty bruises a bit and also allow you to drill the movements into your muscle memory. Just be sure and use yours wrists. This also will allow you to see WHERE you are screwing up the planes and make sure your hands are where they need to be.
The hardest part (in my opinion) is getting the motions down, at first they seem somewhat counter intuitive to most people, but practice with the sticks and you will get it. And the other thing is the arm stretching. It REALLY helps to do a good arm warmup first to get your shoulders and upper arms used to stretching that far around. Be ready for soreness when you first really start learning it.
also it helps when learning to bend forward a bit so as to give your poi/sticks more room to spin without your head in the way. However once learned, the leaning is not necessary at all, provided you can stretch your arms well.
hope it helps, let us know how it goes. If ya can't get it, fly to Charlotte NC and i'll demonstrate for ya lol ;-)
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Zebberdy and Jack Daniels
278 posts
Location: Swansea, south wales
Zebberdy and Jack Daniels
278 posts
Location: Swansea, south wales
Posted:
I cannot visiualise my hand movements without poi's in them. sounds strange i know. but when i first tried out the normal weave. it was suggested to have one empty hand. i couldn't do it for aslong as i tried. but within 10 minutes of practising with 2 poi's then i kinda got it, with sore ears and all.
anyway. i'll try out all of this once i'm out of college. by the way, double poi weave looks very cool with sock pois. it has the slight movement of double staffs. can't wait to try it out on fire pois.
I cannot visiualise my hand movements without poi's in them. sounds strange i know. but when i first tried out the normal weave. it was suggested to have one empty hand. i couldn't do it for aslong as i tried. but within 10 minutes of practising with 2 poi's then i kinda got it, with sore ears and all.
anyway. i'll try out all of this once i'm out of college. by the way, double poi weave looks very cool with sock pois. it has the slight movement of double staffs. can't wait to try it out on fire pois.
The only reason i'm scared of little kid's is because I know in ten year's time they'll be mugging me.....
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newbie
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Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
newbie
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Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
Posted:
I've been trying this move for the past day. And I can't seem to do it because my ass is too big. I have come pretty far in the last day. I can do 1 rotation on each side, but it seems hopeless beyond that. And insanly frustrating.
I've been trying this move for the past day. And I can't seem to do it because my ass is too big. I have come pretty far in the last day. I can do 1 rotation on each side, but it seems hopeless beyond that. And insanly frustrating.
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Location: Nashville, TN, USA
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Location: Nashville, TN, USA
Posted:
if you think it's frustrating now, wait till it you get it in a few months, but it takes you a over a year to learn it forward.
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I've been trying this move for the past day. And I can't seem to do it because my ass is too big. I have come pretty far in the last day. I can do 1 rotation on each side, but it seems hopeless beyond that. And insanly frustrating.
if you think it's frustrating now, wait till it you get it in a few months, but it takes you a over a year to learn it forward.
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Bastard Newbie Messiah
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Location: Apparently lost in my ego, USA
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Location: Apparently lost in my ego, USA
Posted:
I wouldnt lean forward.. that is such a misleadingin description that derves to hurt people.. why? because you need as much of your arms as possible, especially in the beginning..
when you work btb you want to lean away.. this isnt really the same.. the reason being that its a WHOLE lot easier when you are weaving the lean to the left and look right.. this helps you get the right side btb because you look and feel like its up front.. almost liek doing it wall plane.. and by leaning to the left you dip your left shoulder down, whihc makkes it easier to reach right..
then when its one the left side you lean right and look left.. and you really just have to flip between these two stances.. this makes the most of what you ahve until you get stretched out enough to do it on cleanly.. plus you really don't have to worry so much about getting past your bum, because as you flip between the two sides, you can swing wide.. and its not a problem..
plus it helps to use longer strings than normal.. the hand motion and timing is the same, but since the diameter of the circle is larger it will spin slower, and let you bring it out wider..
I wouldnt lean forward.. that is such a misleadingin description that derves to hurt people.. why? because you need as much of your arms as possible, especially in the beginning..
when you work btb you want to lean away.. this isnt really the same.. the reason being that its a WHOLE lot easier when you are weaving the lean to the left and look right.. this helps you get the right side btb because you look and feel like its up front.. almost liek doing it wall plane.. and by leaning to the left you dip your left shoulder down, whihc makkes it easier to reach right..
then when its one the left side you lean right and look left.. and you really just have to flip between these two stances.. this makes the most of what you ahve until you get stretched out enough to do it on cleanly.. plus you really don't have to worry so much about getting past your bum, because as you flip between the two sides, you can swing wide.. and its not a problem..
plus it helps to use longer strings than normal.. the hand motion and timing is the same, but since the diameter of the circle is larger it will spin slower, and let you bring it out wider..
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
I had a miracle fix on the BTB weave that was really troubling me.
If you look straight ahead at a mirror while doing the weave, you need to see your hands peek out the opposite side of your hips.
That is, your right hand needs to go outside your left hip and your left hand needs to go outside your right hip. I wasn't doing that with my left arm so I kept screwing up on my right side.
Sorry if I didn't explain very well.
I had a miracle fix on the BTB weave that was really troubling me.
If you look straight ahead at a mirror while doing the weave, you need to see your hands peek out the opposite side of your hips.
That is, your right hand needs to go outside your left hip and your left hand needs to go outside your right hip. I wasn't doing that with my left arm so I kept screwing up on my right side.
Sorry if I didn't explain very well.
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Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
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Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
Posted:
I've been constantly conditioning my shoulders and stretching them as much as possible, it does seem to have an effect.
I've been constantly conditioning my shoulders and stretching them as much as possible, it does seem to have an effect.
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Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
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Posted:
I tried this a while ago & gave up, just nailed it today
I was trying to do a btb weave with the poi rotating forwards, which is much more difficult, so make sure you start with them going backwards. As soon as they go behind your back, put them on opposite sides & lean to one side, then bring the other poi across to the other side & start the weave (lifting one arm over the other). It feels like a scooping motion.
I tried this a while ago & gave up, just nailed it today
I was trying to do a btb weave with the poi rotating forwards, which is much more difficult, so make sure you start with them going backwards. As soon as they go behind your back, put them on opposite sides & lean to one side, then bring the other poi across to the other side & start the weave (lifting one arm over the other). It feels like a scooping motion.
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The HOP free lessons are excellent....that's how i learned... that and lots of hitting myself in the face/back of the head.......
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The HOP free lessons are excellent....that's how i learned... that and lots of hitting myself in the face/back of the head.......
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