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pre1236
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Posted:answer to me personally I think people confuse the two and think everyone who juggles is either training to be in the circus looking for a job in the circus or is in the circus someone asked me that this summer I turned and walked away my highschool senior project is going to educate people on juggling circuses skill and those who prefore acts based upon minimal skill even if the audiance is one of them and I hope that they will obtain knowledge and appreciation for true technical juggling and not bnch all juggling into the same difficulty level as one bozo the clown



(jason said alot of this I must give him credit for most of what is written here)

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hexagonic
hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:Written by: Skulduggery

Oh and what's wrong with Corny? Corny has it's place in the art of entertainment just like everything else does ubblol hug2



mmmm there's corny and then there's Nx? His routine is corny and the finale is just plain stupid wink They'res know way i'd be puting fire were that man puts it. Then again, there is some nice contact and some wicked dancing smile ubbloco


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Cantus
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Posted:Written by: [Nx?


man, you are such a dumb-ass.

I think you'll find i'm a git with a penchant for the retarded wink


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PyroWill
PyroWill

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Posted:ubblol this thread is giving me so much entertainment. Well done on the biblical reference Cantus, I didnt know you were a religous fellow wink

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

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Cantus
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Posted:Me? No I just googled 12:36 and that was the funniest result biggrin

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PyroWill
PyroWill

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Posted:Pre, having read through these last pages I have actually forgotten half the stuff i was going to say so will try to say them in no particular order.

1) Firstly you are a hypocrite, one of your main arguments has been your hatred of the circus and yet one fo your posts (on page 3 of this thread you are saying you have nothing against circuses.

2) You also said I believe, that your ultimate goal is that you can do such and such routine without members of the public saying about you being in a circus, well I can assure you that will never happen, I have been performing with fire for a while now and as much as I would love for members of the public to not be drunk and try to interfere with my show or pikeys come up to me and steal my stuff, it quite simply won't happen, so I accept it as just a negative part about what we do, as performers we must accept the fact that you get hecklers and many things that annoy you. It is unfortunate that people associate juggling and unicycling with clowns and circus acts simply because it has become so widespread that it is so much more now, but only so much more in our 'community' so to the average layman it still is a circus act, and they are most likely unaware that championships exist and that now unicycling is even considred an extreme sport.

Put in short, you have to accept that as a performer people will always associate you with things they recognise ie: juggling = clown/circus. Simply you have to accept that you get people that say things like that, and if your not able to brush that off and jsut put it down to peoples naivity then maybe you should think differently about pursuing this hobby, because you will rapidly get a reputation as the most annoying juggler around etc.


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Mint Sauce
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Posted:oooooooooh since when did you become all grown up and stuff actually presenting a coherent argument I'm impressed lol

before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Posted:well ive been on this board for a year and a half now, about time i said something, i'll wait another year before another though!

Plus he's pissing me off


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marco
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Posted:Pre,

Are you going to join a circus

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pre1236
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Posted:Written by: PyroWill



1) Firstly you are a hypocrite, one of your main arguments has been your hatred of the circus and yet one fo your posts (on page 3 of this thread you are saying you have nothing against circuses.





now It may have come out wrong or you just read it wrong. I do not like circuses or circus juggling for that matter. Although I would like to add that I never said that I hold nothing against them I just made the point that I would be lying saying there was no good juggling in the circus.









And to the Question from the post above me. I'm not even going to answer that question for if you don't know the answer than you obviously haven't read an of my other posts.


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Cantus
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Posted:Written by: PyroWill
Plus he's pissing me off

I like him. I'm hoping to adopt biggrin


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Posted:Written by: Mint Sauce

oooooooooh since when did you become all grown up and stuff actually presenting a coherent argument I'm impressed lol

When did you learn to spell coherent? tongue


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[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:cantus has found his mini-me

bit cleverer than the oridginal (<-- you like that one?)

T wave


This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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animatEd
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Posted:Pre. *shakes head* *tuts* rolleyes

I pretty much guarantee that I can draw more of a crowd with one ball than you could with seven. Plus people will laugh at you more when you inevitably drop.

The most I use when doing a show type thing is four balls. Does this make me a hack Juggler? I think so. I often get asked why I do stuff, and told that I should be in the circus, etc. My answer is always: 'I'd love to be in a circus, but I'm not good enough yet'. Of course, that's not the reason I juggle. But it stops any further questions.

At a juggling convention in leeds, there were so many good jugglers, doing so many tricks with numbers. I had one ball, and found it quite hard to find time to myself to practice, without people coming up to me and watching, asking me to show them stuff, quite a few just standing there in awe, and, I may say so myself, ladies love me in a nightclub. wink

Be careful about your presumptions with numbers. It's not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean that counts. wink

However, what annoys me the most is when people come up randomly and say 'I Can do that'. But then I get my laughs when they try it and make themselves look stupid as a ball rolls away from them... wink


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Posted:you wont laugh if its an acrylic they drop wink

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Posted:Indeed...

There is a lesson there...

Never Use an acrylic unless you're on soft ground... I found that out the hard way... ubblol


Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
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Posted:as did i, oh my 100 mm frown

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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:humm, pre-drop all acrlyics before performing/practicing.

T wave


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PyroWill
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Posted:lol oh yes a fantastic idea wink maybe i should go into oddballs and offer to do it for them

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pre1236
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Posted:Written by: Long_Time_Coming

The most I use when doing a show type thing is four balls. Does this make me a hack Juggler? I think so. I often get asked why I do stuff, and told that I should be in the circus, etc. My answer is always: 'I'd love to be in a circus, but I'm not good enough yet'. Of course, that's not the reason I juggle. But it stops any further questions



do you A: use actual technical skill or B: do you do things to make the audiance think that you're really better than you are


If you answer was A than no you are not a hack preformer

If you answer was B than yes you are not a hack preformer


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Cantus
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Posted:Ooh twisted logic ubblol

Seriously can we keep him? He'd be great at parties...


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Posted:Written by: pre1236

If you answer was A than no you are not a hack preformer

If you answer was B than yes you are not a hack preformer



So its a win win situation for Ed then? wink


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animatEd

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Location: Bristol UK
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Posted:Yay!!

*does a Happy but confused Dance*

Do I make them think I'm better than I actually am... Um, Yes I do. I make the audience think my balls are actually floating. wink But I also use an awful lot of technique, making it very Technical. But, as Aime pointed out, I still win!!

ubblol


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Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
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Cantus
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Posted:...with his ready wit and his preformed hacks....

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Ravenhill
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Posted:By your logic Pre...
"do you do things to make the audiance [sic] think that you're really better than you are"

...anything involving setting toys on fire, glowing toys, silly bits of physical performance/comedy means that you are a 'hack.'

I thereby denounce EVERYONE ON HOP A HACK

Does this include you pre? Maybe you should go practise juggling rather than trying to get on everyone's tits.


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hexagonic
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Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:ditto

spank


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Ravenhill
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Location: Falmouth, Cornwall
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Posted:madNo Hex, I don't wanna hear it, take your damn hack-y ass outta here, hack!angry

censoredThat goes for all of you too! The next time you go to play with fire, just remember, you little people, you are nothing but HACKS!mad2


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Posted:...and then there were the time when monkey and I realised the horrible inevitable truth...

Pre is OneWheelDave's alter ego.... wink

ubbangel


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PyroWill
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Posted:It was my investigation and experiements that let to that conclusion tongue

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Posted:God... I cant believe this thread has gone 3 pages. Pre, where do you live? I believe you are in desperate need of a spanking... And I mean with your pants down.

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

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Posted:and not in a good way wink

kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more

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