enticed, entrapped, entombed.
intoxicated, impaled, ingested.
bewitched, beaten, broken.
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Written by: Seye
There was a time when anyone who claimed they had been raped was undoubtedly telling the truth. This is no longer the case.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
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"A teenager has been found hanged at her home hours after it was reported to police she'd been raped. Detectives were investigating an attack on 17-year-old Nikki Dunbar in Wiltshire while she was walking her dog on Saturday."
these are not my words... just something i found on another forum,
if a woman is drunk, don't rape her.
if a woman is walking alone at night, don't rape her.
if a women is drugged and unconscious, don't rape her.
if a woman is wearing a short skirt, don't rape her.
if a woman is jogging in a park at 5 am, don't rape her.
if a woman looks like your ex-girlfriend you're still hung up on, don't rape her.
if a woman is asleep in her bed, don't rape her.
if a woman is asleep in your bed, don't rape her.
if a woman is doing her laundry, don't rape her.
if a woman is in a coma, don't rape her.
if a woman changes her mind in the middle of or about a particular activity, don't rape her.
if a woman has repeatedly refused a certain activity, don't rape her.
if a woman is not yet a woman, but a child, don't rape her.
if your girlfriend or wife is not in the mood, don't rape her.
if your step-daughter is watching tv, don't rape her.
if you break into a house and find a woman there, don't rape her.
if your friend thinks it's okay to rape someone, tell him it's not, and that he's not your friend.
if your "friend" tells you he raped someone, report him to the police.
if your frat-brother or another guy at the party tells you there's an unconscious woman upstairs and it's your turn, don't rape her, call the police and tell the guy he's a rapist.
tell your sons, god-sons, nephews, grandsons, sons of friends it's not okay to rape someone.
don't imply that she could have avoided it if she'd only done/not done x.
don't imply that it's in any way her fault.
don't let silence imply agreement when someone tells you he "got some" with the drunk girl.
don't perpetuate a culture that tells you that you have no control over or responsibility for your actions. You can, too, help yourself.
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Written by: Rozi
There was a time, for a long time, when rape was considered to be a shame on the woman and the family, no matter what the circumstances. You only have to look at the old testament of the bible which says that if a woman does not cry for help, then she is responsible for the rape. And that includes when her cries are not heard. (NB: I suspect that is more of a cultural artefact than a religious one, and so please don't take it as a religious argument).
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It says that if a woman could have cried out for help and been heard (like in a city), but didn't, you are to assume that it was consensual.
However, it says that if they are in a place where she couldn't be heard (like a field) you are to presume that it was rape.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
Written by: Rozi
What these arbitrary rules mean are that there are few safe spaces for a woman to explore her sexuality. A woman might want to have sex with multiple partners, and would enjoy it, but the "she must be up for it" rule means that if she says yes once she must mean yes always.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Written by: Patriarch917
I'm afraid you are completely mistaken about what the Old Testament law says. It says that if a woman could have cried out for help and been heard (like in a city), but didn't, you are to assume that it was consensual.
However, it says that if they are in a place where she couldn't be heard (like a field) you are to presume that it was rape.
In other words, when in doubt, you are to rule in favor of believing the woman. There are probably plenty of old, unjust rules when it comes to rape that disfavor the woman (i've heard some examples from muslim law), but this is not one of them.
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What these arbitrary rules mean are that there are few safe spaces for a woman to explore her sexuality. A woman might want to have sex with multiple partners, and would enjoy it, but the "she must be up for it" rule means that if she says yes once she must mean yes always.
I agree with most of what else you're saying, but this IMO is a bit wrong. There are plenty of ways for males and females to explore their sexuality in safe ways. Ideally, why don't you do it in a long term relationship in the safety of your own bedroom?...
Same goes for anything else. If you happen to want to try a threesome, then why not get 2 people you know quite well?...
Problem is, most people don't feel comfortable suggesting things like this when they're sober, so they get drunk before they ask anyone. And as I hope everyone is aware, drunk is *not* the ideal state to be in when you suggest sex to someone.
Basically, if you want to explore, fine. But do it with someone you know and trust, rather than some drunk person who may or may not pay attention to the boundaries you try and set.
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What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
Written by: Rozi
Your "safer" options then are mainly outside the mainstream with people into various fetish scenes who at least understand the physical boundaries people have. Because for a woman to explore these things within the mainstream is often to expose herself to judgement (the word "slut" is the classic one used). And what if you have no access to fetish scenes? Or quite simply, they don't appeal?
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And what if you are not in a long term relationship? Or don't have that group of understanding friends? Or simply don't want to sleep with those friends (cos you only think of them as your mates)?
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Written by: Sethis
Well it was my understanding that a women saw some appeal in whatever "non-mainstream" activity she was thinking of anyway... otherwise why would she want to try it?
I'm aware that not many people find the "Fetish" scene attractive, or indeed, available. But I wasn't really referring to fetishism (an overly strong word IMO) in my post. I read a survey somewhere (some book or other) which said 80-something percent of people had tried tying their partner up a bit. That's not a fetish, that's a normal, fun and entertaining thing to do. SO why is it still considered "Weird" when over 80% of the population has at least tried it? No idea.
...the simple, safe and sensible idea would be not to indulge your curiosity at the present time. Sure you might fancy something "Unorthodox" but if you don't have someone you trust to do it with, it's much better to go without. At least then you're not running the risks inherent with picking up a random partner at a club.
I seem to be wandering off topic a bit... Tried to bring it back in the last couple of sentences though. Maybe I should stop posting at 1.40am...
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“the law still lays responsibility for the crime on the action or inaction of the woman. There are few other crimes which are so defined. Would you contest that one person had murder another based on whether the victim had actively fought them?”
-It does not lay responsibility for a crime on the woman. It is an “affirmative defense” available to the man to prove that it was consensual. If she could have cried for help, and didn’t, this is evidence that it might have been consensual (though not necessarily, as the next two quotes indicate).
-There are people who want the law to treat consensual killing (assisted suicide) different from nonconsensual killing.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
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New Hampshire has a point....
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Written by: Patriarch917
I will try not to sound like my law professors.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
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Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive
Shalom VeAhavah
New Hampshire has a point....
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
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