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The shop owners aren't spinners themselves so i guess they probably havent considered the danger aspect of the props. however we're getting growing local exposure including a spread in the local newspaper, and i dont want that to be followed up with a whole bunch of kids running out, buying the props and burning themselves (and the next weeks newspaper full of reports on how terrible poi is etc!). (there will be a safety aspect to the article and probably a links section or something but i'm still worried)
so what do i do? do i do anything? i've been considering waltzing in and handing the shop owner a HoP card and some details about HoP/firetoys etc but i don't know how well they'll take it or whether they'd even listen to me.
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They may not have even thought about it as you say.
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If that doesn't work, drop hints about what might happen if some kid hurts themselves with their unsafe merchandise... That should get their attention. Especially, as you say, with the media attention.
You're right to be concerned. It's nice that someone cares, rather than thinking "Hahaa Suckers! You're gonna have accidents while all of my HoP bought gear will never hurt me!"
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I'll come with when i'm back home if you want.
Do any of them still have those poi? They might listen a bit better if you have physical proof of something gone wrong that they can see.
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"a pair of large monkey fist poi that i was not overly keen on paying money for, the attachment from the chain to the fist was simply a loop of the kevler rope and i thought this was a bit dangerous (plus they where stupidly expencive)"
i now feel i have to warn of the danger of these if they are still being stocked
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squarexbear and myself gave him a big long lecture about what was wrong with them..
At least they're not as bad as that pair cruff had made for him - the tinest amount of kevlar you've ever seen, attached to a keyring link, then the wick was wrapped and held together by copper wire. I was not best pleased.
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Item number: 6013394663, for an example of really unsafe fire poi, the scary thing is there is a certain shop in southampton still selling these things, the only other place I've seen them for sale was a isle of wight shop whom quickly took them off sale and returned them the their supplier.
And yes I've tested these to destruction one evening, didn't take very long,
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this is a quote taken from my post about cheap poi being made3 in a sweat shop.........
"a pair of large monkey fist poi that i was not overly keen on paying money for, the attachment from the chain to the fist was simply a loop of the kevler rope and i thought this was a bit dangerous (plus they where stupidly expencive)"
i now feel i have to warn of the danger of these if they are still being stocked
i had a pair just like those that actually did break after 15 burns, the shop i bought them from got them from an outside supplier that supplies all of the juggling equipment in there. It was hard to tell how these ones were fixed though until the kevlar started coming away, but they also produced a very strange smell when they burnt, which i think was some kind of synthetic core. I only ever used them in the garden away from other people and animals, because i could tell they would break pretty soon. Damn shame though otherwise they were a nice weight for monkeyfists.
I have seen one other shop though that is selling poi with a really large chunk of metal exposed where it is attached to the chain, i think they are actually be mr. babache, but they look really dodgy to me, not neccessarily that they would break but this huge bit of metal could cause some very nasty skin burns!
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The lighter I bought from there leaked from every orifice as well.
don't quote me on this but i reckon anyhting that leaks from every orofice is probably bad for your health in some way.
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DeleteI have seen one other shop though that is selling poi with a really large chunk of metal exposed where it is attached to the chain, i think they are actually be mr. babache, but they look really dodgy to me, not neccessarily that they would break but this huge bit of metal could cause some very nasty skin burns!
yep, aimee has some of those thoughtfully supplied by her stepfather. the metal does get pretty hot. i don't understand why there is such a length of exposed core though?
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It was hard to tell how these ones were fixed though until the kevlar started coming away, but they also produced a very strange smell when they burnt, which i think was some kind of synthetic core.
We, at www.tePOOKatoys.com, got some Kevlar rope from our suppliers which was Kevlar cored with some other cotton like material. It looked great and was really cheap, but disintergrated after two burns. Like completely disintergrated. Fortunately we test all our gear ourselves at our own gigs. Fortunately we care about making quality products. It keeps me up at night thinking about the people who quite happily make toys with these sh*tty cheap materials and plug them to newbies.
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but i already bought my staff from you guys and it's cool so... hooray for you lot!Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006
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See wooden cores thread.
That's a really useful thread, cheers
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I could list all the things wrong with beach party fire poi, but my hands are really cold, and I don't think they could take all the typing. But I might yet anyway.
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i just didn't want people to think I was some innocent and neutral party... thought it best to be upfront.
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you cant sell unsaffe stuff its just not on
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
Delete"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
it wouldnt be the fact it is designed to spin fire round (because that is what you would state in your product decryption) they would pick up on the fact that you cant do this for long with those or other shoddy equipment and failure of said equipment could cause unwanted harm..
they dont ban skateboards but the do have standards to make them safe and not snap on you.
before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
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One set did indeed have an aluminum tube core that I could crush with my fingers, and it was a good thing I noticed it after a few burns and decided just to use them unlit. They lasted about two hours before the split ring pulled right through the aluminum.
Other sets I've had have been fine, just get rid of those cheap swivel clips, I've broken four of them so far, and that was unlit too.
But if you really want to get them out of the shop, you might suggest that you think the wicking material is asbestos, and it just might be. Those white poi are cheap like dirt in Thailand ( about 8 USD per pair ) where proper kevlar tubecores go for 3-4 times that much.
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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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