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Posted:Recently i've gotten into Jo staffs. as currect I own a 4ft red oak Jo staff, anyone else interested in combat with staff's here?
The only reason i'm scared of little kid's is because I know in ten year's time they'll be mugging me.....
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GeoffonTour04:
hold it diagonally, hands opposed, and block with the nearest part with as little movement as possible. When you blocked hit back with the opposite end in an undefended area, or if no such opportunity presents itself, set yourself up a feint or something tricky. That's the basics, there should be loads on the web.
that sounds more like half-staffing to me, quarter staff you hold it one hand at the middle, one hand halfway between that and the butt (thus a quarter of the staffs length is between your hands, hence quarter staff
) - its more proddy and hitty, and you're further from your opponent, halfstaffing's more up close and personal.
If you want to learn about quarter staffing, and traditional english combat (swords and such) in general, get hold of a book by terry brown, called 'the english martial arts'
it has pictures and EVERYTHING
you too can master the perfect cross buttock
GeoffonTour04:
hold it diagonally, hands opposed, and block with the nearest part with as little movement as possible. When you blocked hit back with the opposite end in an undefended area, or if no such opportunity presents itself, set yourself up a feint or something tricky. That's the basics, there should be loads on the web.
that sounds more like half-staffing to me, quarter staff you hold it one hand at the middle, one hand halfway between that and the butt (thus a quarter of the staffs length is between your hands, hence quarter staff
) - its more proddy and hitty, and you're further from your opponent, halfstaffing's more up close and personal.If you want to learn about quarter staffing, and traditional english combat (swords and such) in general, get hold of a book by terry brown, called 'the english martial arts'
it has pictures and EVERYTHING
you too can master the perfect cross buttock *produces sandwich- is happy*
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Posted: yeah, not quite like that
more men with big beards hewing limbs all over the shop
*rarrrrrrrrr* i'm a viking! *grrrrrrr* *ahem*
hi, yeah, i'd like my coat please?
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yeah, not quite like that more men with big beards hewing limbs all over the shop
*rarrrrrrrrr* i'm a viking! *grrrrrrr* *ahem*
hi, yeah, i'd like my coat please?
taxi?
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Posted:I think it's about time Iclear up a few things here.
Escrima is the name of the sticks.
Kali is short for Kali Sikaran, wich is an filipinian martial arts. It involves:
-Knives (Daga)
-Close combat (Kadena de Mano)
-Stickfighting (Escrima)
-Filipinian Kickboxing (Sikaran)
-Boxing (Panantukan).
So there you have it.
Escrima is the name of the sticks.
Kali is short for Kali Sikaran, wich is an filipinian martial arts. It involves:
-Knives (Daga)
-Close combat (Kadena de Mano)
-Stickfighting (Escrima)
-Filipinian Kickboxing (Sikaran)
-Boxing (Panantukan).
So there you have it.
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Posted:Hey Pyro,
There are several other styles/systems of Kali/Arnis/Eskrima. Sikaran is just one of them. There seems to be as many styles as there are Masters.
Cheers!
Patrick
There are several other styles/systems of Kali/Arnis/Eskrima. Sikaran is just one of them. There seems to be as many styles as there are Masters.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Posted:For combat, how about LARP weapons? They're designed for semi contact fighting, are made from high density rubber around a carbonfibre or plastic core, covered in sculpted latex, and are what I use on a regular basis.
Eldritch do a good selection of staves up to 6', but they are fairly expensive. Check it out!
Eldritch do a good selection of staves up to 6', but they are fairly expensive. Check it out!
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Posted:Does anyone know of anyone who does that in New Zealand, or better still in the South Island? Sounds really cool and after having played soul caliber 3 I'm even more entranced with the idea of staff combat (kilik would be part of the inspiration)
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Posted:Most stick fighting is done by Filipino martial arts nowadays.
If you are in Melbourne, try out John Chow who teaches Tai Chi and Arnis / Eskrima (Kalis Ilustrisimo). He also teaches staff that is a combination of Chinese and Filipino martial arts.
If you are in Melbourne, try out John Chow who teaches Tai Chi and Arnis / Eskrima (Kalis Ilustrisimo). He also teaches staff that is a combination of Chinese and Filipino martial arts.
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Posted:Hey there! Yeah, I am. I did Tang Soo Do (South Korean form of karate) for 8/9 years and got my black belt, and earned the title of British Champion with bo staff. Learning that has really benefitted me as I have just started fire staff!
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Posted:Tang Soo Do is TKD not karate, eskrima and kali are in essence the same thing but as has been said before from differant areas and with slightly differant philosophies and training techniques and weapons used.
I personally like the okinowan bo techniques when used for fire staff fighting, the techniques more closely resemble natural movements and are easy to adapt to a staff which is on fire.
I personally like the okinowan bo techniques when used for fire staff fighting, the techniques more closely resemble natural movements and are easy to adapt to a staff which is on fire.
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We've had a fire staff combat component in comercial fire shows for the last two years now, based around jo and bo staff, semi to full contact two and three person sets, just starting to look into three section fire staff applications.
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We've had a fire staff combat component in comercial fire shows for the last two years now, based around jo and bo staff, semi to full contact two and three person sets, just starting to look into three section fire staff applications.
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Posted:hello thumperabbit, i am very into martial arts, i have recently got my black bely in karate and i occasionaly attend aiki jujitsu classes in which we do weapon training. What kind of combat ur interested in. if ur interested in choreographed fighting then this isnt your thing but if ur interested in the battle field art side of things and learning real combat skills then u shud look for something like that. we train mainly with jo staffs and bokken. wot is it uve been doin with your jo. interestingly enough, spinning the jo is somewhat frowned upon in our martial arts classes, so not a great link to fire spinning.
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Posted:LARP weapons, oh well, I guess I've got to out myself as King of Geeks, hope this info's useful.
Drudwyn: Eldrich (Used to be Cloak & Dagger, used to be Labyrinthe) are IMHO some of the worst LARP weapons I've ever used.
It's worth paying the extra and buying from Darren Stocker at Wandering soldier (almost indestructable weapons, if you can find him) or paying a lot more and getting a real piece of art from Graham at Tallows FX (the professional service, and aftercare are second to none and in 15 years I've seen a lot.)
Point Blank: Try the Diatribe forums for the nearest game near you. Look for Ryan Paddy, he imports latex weapons of middling quality and extortionate price, but as far as I know, they are the only latex ones in New Zealand, so far.
Also, look out for Terry & Helen Graham in the next two years. They're moving to NZ to build a role-play specific village. They run what are arguably the best events in the UK.
Drudwyn: Eldrich (Used to be Cloak & Dagger, used to be Labyrinthe) are IMHO some of the worst LARP weapons I've ever used.
It's worth paying the extra and buying from Darren Stocker at Wandering soldier (almost indestructable weapons, if you can find him) or paying a lot more and getting a real piece of art from Graham at Tallows FX (the professional service, and aftercare are second to none and in 15 years I've seen a lot.)
Point Blank: Try the Diatribe forums for the nearest game near you. Look for Ryan Paddy, he imports latex weapons of middling quality and extortionate price, but as far as I know, they are the only latex ones in New Zealand, so far.
Also, look out for Terry & Helen Graham in the next two years. They're moving to NZ to build a role-play specific village. They run what are arguably the best events in the UK.
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Posted:I 
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Posted:King of Geeks says: The Geek will inherit the earth.
Now I must change back to my secret identity, or I will decend into rants on PvP, the phantom menace, or homestarrunner. Quick, to the Geekcave!
Now I must change back to my secret identity, or I will decend into rants on PvP, the phantom menace, or homestarrunner. Quick, to the Geekcave!
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Posted:If anyone does that in Tucson (hah!) I'd love an opponent.
I learned quarterstaff for stage combat, which is what got me in to the fire staff.. This is why my current project is a 6' long galvanized steel fire staff. Heavy and hell, but good lord it's indestructable, and it feels great working with it..... Just ain't doing throws >.>
I learned quarterstaff for stage combat, which is what got me in to the fire staff.. This is why my current project is a 6' long galvanized steel fire staff. Heavy and hell, but good lord it's indestructable, and it feels great working with it..... Just ain't doing throws >.>
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Posted:jo meaning short staff, bo meaning staff (unless someone cares to correct me.
people saying 'short staff staff' always make me giggle.
I've always been under the impression arnis was synonymous to escrima, just thought i'd mention that as no-one else has yet.
You can say Tang Soo Do is based on karate in so much as Taekwon-do is based on karate, so you just have to regress it a step further
people saying 'short staff staff' always make me giggle.
I've always been under the impression arnis was synonymous to escrima, just thought i'd mention that as no-one else has yet.
You can say Tang Soo Do is based on karate in so much as Taekwon-do is based on karate, so you just have to regress it a step further
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I've always been under the impression arnis was synonymous to escrima, just thought i'd mention that as no-one else has yet.
Ummm, I think someone already did. Interchangeable might be synonymous with synonymous?
I've always been under the impression arnis was synonymous to escrima, just thought i'd mention that as no-one else has yet.
Ummm, I think someone already did.
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Posted:oops, so you did, I'd managed to only search this page of topic when i double checked, soz
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Posted: Written by: ArthurBrown
Point Blank: Try the Diatribe forums for the nearest game near you. Look for Ryan Paddy, he imports latex weapons of middling quality and extortionate price, but as far as I know, they are the only latex ones in New Zealand, so far.
Thanks for the mention. Go to www.paddywhack.co.nz for latex weapons in New Zealand. The prices are fair (and cheap compared to UK prices) and even cheaper if you also join NZLARPS.
The weapons I currently have in stock are decent quality, much better than most of those home-made in New Zealand, although I'll happily admit they're not of the very expensive, very high quality variety. They're very safe, using a softer foam than most latex weapons. I'm looking at stocking some new brands, too.
Unfortunately I don't have any staves currently. Weapons over 1 meter in length are a bit tricky to transport (you can't send them via courier or post in NZ) and many manufacturers don't make anything longer than about 1.1 meters. I could stock short staves if there was an interest.
I'm not into poi, by the way, although it looks amazing. My fiance stumbled on this forum while vanity-searching my name. Is it still vanity if it's not your own name?
Anyhow, all the best and drop me a line if you're in NZ and interested in combat with foam weapons, or larp.
Righto!
Ryan
Point Blank: Try the Diatribe forums for the nearest game near you. Look for Ryan Paddy, he imports latex weapons of middling quality and extortionate price, but as far as I know, they are the only latex ones in New Zealand, so far.
Thanks for the mention. Go to www.paddywhack.co.nz for latex weapons in New Zealand. The prices are fair (and cheap compared to UK prices) and even cheaper if you also join NZLARPS.
The weapons I currently have in stock are decent quality, much better than most of those home-made in New Zealand, although I'll happily admit they're not of the very expensive, very high quality variety. They're very safe, using a softer foam than most latex weapons. I'm looking at stocking some new brands, too.
Unfortunately I don't have any staves currently. Weapons over 1 meter in length are a bit tricky to transport (you can't send them via courier or post in NZ) and many manufacturers don't make anything longer than about 1.1 meters. I could stock short staves if there was an interest.
I'm not into poi, by the way, although it looks amazing. My fiance stumbled on this forum while vanity-searching my name. Is it still vanity if it's not your own name?
Anyhow, all the best and drop me a line if you're in NZ and interested in combat with foam weapons, or larp.
Righto!
Ryan
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Posted:We use a three person combat piece.
accept our staff length is in beteween a bow and a jo staff
ours is 5.5 feet
accept our staff length is in beteween a bow and a jo staff
ours is 5.5 feet
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Posted:bo staffs are usually 4ft long and jo staffs are around 6ft long and usually have a tappered tip like a spear
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Posted: Written by: wolfcub3223
bo staffs are usually 4ft long and jo staffs are around 6ft long and usually have a tappered tip like a spear
Other way round, dude. Bos are 6ft and Jos 4ft. The tapering is purely optional for both.
bo staffs are usually 4ft long and jo staffs are around 6ft long and usually have a tappered tip like a spear
Other way round, dude. Bos are 6ft and Jos 4ft. The tapering is purely optional for both.
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