"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
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Written by: onewheeldave
I'm seeing on this thread a lot of out-and-out prejudice against home tutor-ing, with very little rational back-up- I'm genuinely bemused that some people seem so aggressively against it with no apparent good reason.
Written by: OneWheelDave
IMO, the people here who don't seem to understanding why some need a home-tutoring aption to escape from bullying, are basically people who have not been bullied.
And there, by 'bullied' I'm talking about full on, long term bullying- the stuff that drives children to such helpless despair, that they take their own lives rather than go to school.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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Written by: Birgit
Dave, I'm getting a bit tired of this. Me and others have pointed out that yes, for some people home tutoring does work, but there is less control on it than on "school schooling" and this can have dangerous effects, especially on freedom of choice of way of living and belief on the part of the children.
You've started by arguing I blamed home schooling exclusively for what this thread was about in the first place, and you've gone on in a similar fashion. It's hard to have a discussion with you, because unless I point out in every place "I don't mean 100% of cases but..." or "not exclusively but" you'll jump in there.
Please accept that the people here DO understand that for some kids, home schooling seems to be the only alternative, but the whole bullying thing was never in it in the first place. We were talking about parents home schooling because they wanted their kids raised from a certain religious or political point of view. Thumperabbit jumped in and said home schooling worked well for him, and we accepted that. Indeed, we were even willing to learn exactly what it had been like for him.
In the western world, racist views like these are generally not taught in schools and if they are, you can go and complain and get the teacher fired. There you go. And argument like the ones you've asked for, and it was obviously implied in more than one post here.
IMO, the thread should probably not have slipped so far into the home schooling thing in the first place, and it's probably my fault for the way I phrased the first post that it did. I learned some interesting points of view, so I don't regret it, but please accept that the points we raise are valid to us. What may be no apparent good reason may also be a very good reason for some of us.
For example, as you said, most kids do overcome bullying. So did I, and it was an important experience. I'd trust in most parents to pull the necessary lines when they see their kid really suffers, and those who don't probably aren't fit for home schooling in the first place. But if the kid is pulled out of school before it even happens, or at a level where it would be an essential learning experience to overcome it, it harms more than it helps. I wouldn't pull my kid out of school and leave it unable to defend itself in social situations later.
This is the last I'll say, you've ignored all the concessions people who oppose home schooling made to those who approve it and say people may need it and made it sound like we all argue unnecessary points, and as I said, I'm getting a bit tired of it. I don't think you understood my last post at all by the way you interpreted it.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: linden rathen
i just feel REALLY sorry for these guys
the other prussian blue
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.
Written by: onewheeldave
Sorry that you're finding it annoying Birgit.
(...)
I appreciate the points you make, but, IMO, some of the posts on this thread have been extremely prejudiced against home-tutoring.
As you say, perhaps it's best to leave it now, pretty much everything has been said I think, and, on the subject of home tutoring, I guess we'll just have to disagree.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: Birgit
Don't worry, am much more relaxed now, yesterday was before a performance and the organisation had been a bit rough, so I was pretty much stressed out.
It's just that... I think you should try and get across the appreciation of points a bit more, cause I didn't get the impression you appreciated any of them. You're quite good at arguing your points, and I think people often feel a bit run over by you, and the way you dismiss arguments can come across quite blunt. If that makes any sense.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: lyrics-Aryan Man Awake
(by Lamb and April)
When the man who plows the fields is driven from his lands. When the carpenter must give away what he's built with his own hands. When a mother's only children belong to her no more. And black masked men with guns come bashing down the doors. Where freedom exists for only those with darker skin. Where lies and propaganda will never let you win. Where symbols of your heritage are held with such contempt, and benefits of country 'cept tax are you exempt.
Aryan man awake, How much more will you take, Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.
Can you see how they lie to warp your daughter's minds? Can you let your sons be trodden down or held behind? Can you apologize for things you did not do, and leave this battle that we fight to the proud and the few? What will it take for you to waken to the truth? What will it take for you to remember your own youth? What will you give up to help this worthy Cause, and strike with force and fury, without a single pause?
What will it take for you to remember your own folk? What will it take for you to break that heavy yoke? Why do you still cast your eyes downward to the ground? Worry lest what you say have prejudicial sound. Who will stand beside us when the war begins? Who will run and hide their heads and wait to see who wins? Who will face the end and watch a Valkyrie ride forth To join the gods and fallen stormtroopers of the North?
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Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.
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What will it take for you to remember your own folk? What will it take for you to break that heavy yoke? Why do you still cast your eyes downward to the ground? Worry lest what you say have prejudicial sound....
.....Where symbols of your heritage are held with such contempt
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And black masked men with guns come bashing down the doors..........................and benefits of country 'cept tax are you exempt.
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Who will face the end and watch a Valkyrie ride forth To join the gods and fallen stormtroopers of the North?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: Birgit
The swastika is forbidden in Germany, but again, the same symbol (but a mirror image) has been used in most cultures, originally representing the sun. It was only turned around for the party symbol purposes, so it's not German heritage. If you use it, it IS because you show your support for a certain ideology.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive
Shalom VeAhavah
New Hampshire has a point....
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
Written by: Birgit
About the symbols of heritage... I'm not quite sure what they mean.
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: onewheeldave
Children are individual beings, with rights, who should not be forced to endure the intimidation and violence that is rampant in UK schools; no adult would have to put up with this at their place of work, yet we let it happen to children at schools.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
KITTENS!!!!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: brodieman
However i have met children who are home schooled find it very hard to socialise with other children
Written by: onewheeldave
However i have met children who are traditionaly schooled find it very hard to socialise with other children
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
KITTENS!!!!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half